UEFA Champions League Final Totteham V Liverpool -Saturday 1st June - VM 1/BT Sport 2

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Live from Estadio Metropolitano, Madrid, Spain 20:00 Kick-off

Game also on BT Sport Youtube Channel (Most likely Geo-Restricted to UK Audience)

2019 UEFA Champions League final refereeing team
Referee: Damir Skomina (Slovenia)
Assistant Referees: Jure Praprotnik, Robert Vukan (both from Slovenia)
Fourth official: Antonio Mateu Lahoz (Spain)
Video Assistant Referee: Danny Makkelie (Netherlands)
VAR Assistants: Pol van Boekel (Netherlands), Felix Zwayer (Germany)
Offside VAR: Mark Borsch (Germany)

Road to the Final
Totteham Hotspur
Round of 16
1st Leg Tottenham Hotspur (ENG) 3 - 0 Borussia Dortmund (GER)
2nd Leg Borussia Dortmund (GER) 0 - 1 Tottenham Hotspur (ENG)

Quarter-Final
1st Leg Tottenham Hotspur (ENG) 1 - 0 Manchester City (ENG)
2nd Leg Manchester City (ENG) 4 - 3 Tottenham Hotspur (ENG) - Tottenham Hotspur (ENG) win on Away Goals

Semi-Final
1st Leg Tottenham Hotspur (ENG) 0 - 1 Ajax (NED)
2nd Leg Ajax (NED) 2 - 3 Tottenham Hotspur (ENG) - Tottenham Hotspur (ENG) win on Away Goals

Liverpool
Round of 16
1st Leg Liverpool (ENG) 0 - 0 Bayern München (GER)
2nd Leg Bayern München (GER) 1 - 3 Liverpool (ENG)

Quarter-Final
1st Leg Liverpool (ENG) 2 - 0 Porto (POR)
2nd Leg Porto (POR) 1 - 4 Liverpool (ENG)

Semi-Fina
1st Leg Barcelona (ESP) 3 - 0 Liverpool (ENG)
2nd Leg Liverpool (ENG) 4 - 0 Barcelona (ESP)

Stats and Facts from uefa.com

• Both teams mounted spectacular semi-final comebacks to reach the Estadio Metropolitano, home ground of Atlético Madrid, each recovering from three goals down. While Liverpool won 4-0 in their second leg against Barcelona at Anfield to progress 4-3 on aggregate, Lucas Moura's second-half hat-trick at the Johan Cruijff ArenA gave Spurs a 3-2 victory at Ajax, and an away-goals success.

• Liverpool are seeking their sixth European title – and second UEFA Champions League triumph, following their memorable comeback against AC Milan in 2005 – while Tottenham have never previously appeared in the final. Indeed, their sole semi-final before this season came in 1961/62, while their best previous UEFA Champions League campaign, in 2010/11, ended in the last eight.

• There have been six previous UEFA Champions League finals between clubs from the same country, all since 2000. Real Madrid were victorious in all-Spanish affairs in 2000 (Valencia), 2014 and 2016 (both Atlético) while AC Milan beat fellow Italian side Juventus on penalties in 2003 and Bayern München overcame Borussia Dortmund in the 2013 all-German final.

• The only previous all-English final took place at Moscow's Luzhniki Stadium in 2008, Manchester United beating Chelsea 6-5 on penalties after a 1-1 draw.

• Tottenham will be the eighth English club to appear in a European Cup final, more than any other country; Italy and Germany are next on the list with six each.

• This is the fifth European Cup final to take place in Madrid, after those of 1957, 1969, 1980 and 2010 – all of which were played at Real Madrid's Santiago Bernabéu home – and the eighth in Spain.

Previous meetings
• The sides have been paired together only once previously in UEFA competition, in the 1972/73 UEFA Cup semi-finals, won on away goals by Liverpool after a 2-2 aggregate draw. Alec Lindsay gave Liverpool a first-leg advantage at Anfield and Steve Heighway's goal in the White Hart Lane return, in between a Martin Peters double for then then-holders Spurs, proved decisive. Liverpool went on to win the trophy.

• In total Tottenham and Liverpool have met 170 times in all competitions, the Reds winning 79 to Spurs' 48; there have been 43 draws.

• Liverpool have lost just one of the teams' last 14 meetings dating back to the start of 2013, winning nine.

• The Reds prevailed 2-1 in both this season's Premier League encounters, most recently at Anfield on 31 March, when Toby Alderweireld put through his own net in the last minute. Roberto Firmino had opened the scoring in the first half only for Lucas Moura to level in the second.

• Firmino had scored the winner when the teams met at Wembley on 15 September, adding to Georginio Wijnaldum's first-half strike; Erik Lamela's last-minute response came too late for Spurs.

• The sides' only previous final meeting came in the 1982 League Cup at Wembley, when Liverpool came from behind to win 3-1 after extra time, Ronnie Whelan (2) and Ian Rush getting the goals after Steve Archibald had put Spurs in front.

Final pedigree
Tottenham
• Spurs are the 40th club to reach the European Cup final, and the first newcomers since Chelsea in 2008.

• Spurs could become the 23rd side to win the European Cup, and the first new name on the trophy since Chelsea's 2012 triumph.

• This is Tottenham's fifth UEFA final, and a second against English opposition. They beat Wolves 3-2 on aggregate in the inaugural UEFA Cup final in 1971/72 (2-1 away, 1-1 home).

• Spurs also overcame Atlético Madrid 5-1 in the 1963 European Cup Winners' Cup final, becoming the first English club to lift a European trophy, and Anderlecht 4-2 on penalties in the UEFA Cup in 1984. Their sole final defeat came in the 1973/74 UEFA Cup, Feyenoord coming out 4-2 aggregate victors.

• Tottenham could therefore become the sixth club – after Juventus, Ajax, Bayern München, Chelsea and Manchester United – to win all three major UEFA club trophies.

• Toby Alderweireld came on as a first-half replacement for Atlético Madrid in the 2014 UEFA Champions League final, a 4-1 extra-time defeat by Real Madrid.

• Fernando Llorente was a late substitute as Juventus lost 3-1 to Barcelona in the 2015 UEFA Champions League final.

• Davinson Sánchez played 90 minutes as Ajax went down 2-0 to Manchester United in the 2017 UEFA Europa League final.

Liverpool
• The Reds have won five of their eight previous European Cup finals:
1976/77: Liverpool 3-1 Borussia Monchengladbach
1977/78: Liverpool 1-0 Club Brugge
1980/81: Liverpool 1-0 Real Madrid
1983/84: Liverpool 1-1 Roma (aet; Liverpool win 4-2 on penalties)
1984/85: Juventus 1-0 Liverpool
2004/05: Liverpool 3-3 AC Milan (aet; Liverpool win 3-2 on penalties)
2006/07: AC Milan 2-1 Liverpool
2017/18: Real Madrid 3-1 Liverpool

• This is the third time Liverpool have reached successive European Cup finals. Only Juventus (1997, 1998) and Valencia (2000, 2001) have lost the fixture in consecutive years.

• This is Liverpool's 21st UEFA final. In addition to their eight European Cup appearances, they are three-time winners of the UEFA Cup/UEFA Europa League (1973, 1976, 2001), losing the 2016 final, and won the UEFA Super Cup in 1977, 2001 and 2005, losing in 1978 and 1984. They also lost in the 1965/66 European Cup Winners' Cup final, and the 1981 and 1984 European/South American Cup. Their overall record in UEFA finals is therefore W11 L9.

• Trent Alexander-Arnold, Dejan Lovren, Virgil van Dijk, Andrew Robertson, James Milner, Jordan Henderson, Georginio Wijnaldum, Mohamed Salah, Roberto Firmino and Sadio Mané all started as Jürgen Klopp's Liverpool lost to Real Madrid 12 months ago; Adam Lallana was a first-half replacement for the injured Salah, with Simon Mignolet and Alberto Moreno unused substitutes.

• Mignolet, Lovren, Moreno, Milner, Lallana, Firmino and Daniel Sturridge all started Liverpool's 3-1 defeat by Sevilla in the 2016 UEFA Europa League final at St. Jakob-Park, Basel with Divock Origi coming on as a late substitute; Henderson stayed on the bench for Klopp's side.

• Having got Liverpool's goal against Madrid in Kyiv last year, Mané could become the eighth player to score in more than one UEFA Champions League final, after Gareth Bale, Samuel Eto'o, Lionel Messi, Sergio Ramos, Raúl González, Mario Mandžukić and Cristiano Ronaldo, who is the only player to find the net in three.

Form guide
Tottenham
• Tottenham have drawn two of their previous three games in Madrid, losing the other – all three fixtures against Real Madrid.

• Spurs have never won in Spain, where their overall record is D3 L3. They last visited on matchday six this season, a 1-1 draw at Barcelona that secured their place in the round of 16.

• The Lilywhites became only the second team in UEFA Champions League history to recover from losing the home first leg in a semi-final, turning round a 1-0 defeat by Ajax in north London with a 3-2 success in the Netherlands – Lucas Moura scoring a second-half hat-trick after Ajax had led 2-0 at the interval.

• That gave Spurs a second successive away goals victory following their quarter-final triumph against Manchester City (1-0 home, 3-4 away). They beat Borussia Dortmund home (3-0) and away (1-0) in the round of 16 having picked up eight points in finishing second to Barcelona in Group B.

• Spurs' record in this season's competition is therefore W6 D2 L4.

• Tottenham have won four of their eight matches against fellow English sides in UEFA competition (D1 L3). The City tie in this season's quarter-finals were their first such fixtures in 46 years, since that 1973 UEFA Cup semi-final against Liverpool.

• Tottenham's record in three UEFA penalty shoot-outs is W1 L2:
4-3 v Anderlecht, 1983/84 UEFA Cup final
5-6 v PSV Eindhoven, 2007/08 UEFA Cup round of 16
1-4 v Basel, 2012/13 UEFA Europa League quarter-final

Liverpool
• Liverpool's record in Madrid is W1 D1 L2, those two defeats coming in their last two trips – to Real Madrid in the 2014/15 UEFA Champions League group stage and Atlético in the 2009/10 UEFA Europa League semi-finals, both 0-1.

• Defeat at Barcelona in the first leg of their semi-final means the Reds have lost on four of their last five trips to Spain, where their record overall is W7 D5 L6.

• Liverpool are unbeaten in their last five European games against English clubs (W3 D2), beating Manchester City home (3-0) and away (2-1) in last season's UEFA Champions League quarter-finals. They have won seven of their 20 matches against domestic rivals in UEFA competition (D8 L5).

• This season Klopp's side became the third team to win a European Cup semi-final after a 3-0 defeat in the first leg, Origi and Georginio Wijnaldum both scoring twice in the second game at Anfield to get the better of Barcelona.

• Liverpool lost three of their first five games in this season's competition – all away from home – before reaching the round of 16 with a 1-0 home defeat of Napoli. In the knockout stages they beat Bayern München 3-1 on aggregate (0-0 home, 3-1 away) and Porto 6-1 over two legs (2-0 home, 4-1 away) before eliminating Barça.

• The Reds have lost six of their last 14 European matches, all those defeats coming outside England, although the semi-final first leg defeat in Barcelona is the sole reverse in their last seven matches (W5 D1).

• Liverpool's record in four UEFA penalty shoot-outs is W3 L1:
4-2 v Roma, 1983/84 European Champion Clubs' Cup final
3-2 v AC Milan, 2004/05 UEFA Champions League final
4-1 v Chelsea, 2006/07 UEFA Champions League semi-final
4-5 v Beşiktaş, 2014/15 UEFA Europa League round of 32

Links and trivia
• International team-mates:
Kieran Trippier, Danny Rose, Eric Dier, Harry Winks, Dele Alli, Harry Kane & Trent Alexander-Arnold, Joe Gomez, Jordan Henderson, Adam Lallana, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (England)
Toby Alderweireld, Jan Vertonghen & Divock Origi (Belgium)
Lucas Moura & Alisson Becker, Fabinho, Roberto Firmino (Brazil)
Ben Davies & Ben Woodburn (Wales)

• Have played together:
Paulo Gazzaniga, Victor Wanyama & Dejan Lovren (Southampton 2013/14)
Paulo Gazzaniga, Victor Wanyama & Virgil van Dijk (Southampton 2016)
Paulo Gazzaniga, Victor Wanyama & Sadio Mané (Southampton 2014–16)
Paulo Gazzaniga & Adam Lallana (Southampton 2012–14)
Victor Wanyama & Adam Lallana (Southampton 2013/14)

• Mohamed Salah scored in the second leg of Basel's 2012/13 UEFA Europa League quarter-final victory against Spurs. He also found the net, again in the second leg, as Fiorentina beat Tottenham in the same competition's round of 32 two years later.

• Fabinho was part of the Monaco team that beat Spurs 2-1 away and home in the 2016/17 UEFA Champions League group stage.

• Dejan Lovren's Dinamo Zagreb lost 4-0 at Spurs in the 2008/09 UEFA Cup group stage.

• Hugo Lloris was in the Lyon side that took four points off Liverpool (2-1 away, 1-1 home) in the 2009/10 UEFA Champions League group stage, with the French side going through to the round of 16 and the Reds eliminated.

• Fernando Llorente scored twice in Swansea's 3-2 Premier League win at Liverpool on 21 January 2017.

• Substitute Kane scored England's first goal in a UEFA EURO 2016 qualifying win against Xherdan Shaqiri's Switzerland at Wembley in September 2015. Milner and Oxlade-Chamberlain were also in the home line-up.

• Lovren played 120 minutes as Croatia beat an England side featuring Trippier, who scored his side's goal, Alli, Kane and substitutes Dier and Rose, 2-1 in the 2018 FIFA World Cup semi-final.

• Alderweireld and Vertonghen were in the Belgium side that beat England 2-0 in the third-place play-off at last summer's World Cup. Trippier, Rose, Dier and Kane started for England, Alli coming on as a late substitute.

• Sánchez's Colombia beat a Senegal team featuring Mané 1-0 on matchday three of the World Cup last summer to reach the round of 16 at the expense of their opponents.

• Henderson missed a penalty in England's last-16 shoot-out with Colombia at last year's World Cup, but his side still went through with Dier converting the decisive kick. Kane and Trippier were also on target for England in the shoot-out with Kane having earlier scored from the spot in a 1-1 draw; Alli plus substitute Rose also featured for England with Sánchez playing 120 minutes for Colombia.

• Alisson and substitute Firmino were in the Brazil side beaten 2-1 by Belgium, featuring Vertonghen and Alderweireld, in the quarter-finals at Russia 2018.

• Kane got England's UEFA Nations League winner against Lovren's Croatia at Wembley on 18 November 2018 as the home side qualified for the Finals; Dier and Alli, a substitute, also featured for England with Winks an unused replacement.

• Lovren, Dier and Kane had earlier featured in a 0-0 draw in Croatia on 12 October; Trippier and Winks stayed on the bench.

Latest news
Tottenham
• Lucas Moura made his 50th appearance in UEFA club competition in the semi-final second leg; Harry Kane is one game away from reaching the same mark.

• Tottenham finished the Premier League season in fourth place, concluding their campaign with a 2-2 draw at Everton on 12 May. They won one of their last five league matches in 2018/19 (D1 L3).

• The 3-2 win at Ajax in the semi-final second leg is Spurs' only success in their last five matches in all competitions (D1 L3); they have won only six of their last 17 matches, losing nine.

• Spurs have drawn only five of their 57 games in 2018/19 in all competitions (W33 L19).

• Mauricio Pochettino's side have kept seven clean sheets in their last 25 fixtures, and none in the last five.

• Tottenham have lost 19 games in all competitions this season, their most since 2008/09 when they suffered the same number of defeats.

• Jan Vertonghen suffered an ankle injury in the second leg at Ajax, while Dele Alli was taken off at half-time against Everton due to a muscular problem. Danny Rose did not feature against Everton and has a hamstring problem while Davinson Sánchez, who has a thigh injury, last played as nine-man Spurs lost 1-0 at Bournemouth on 4 May.

• Kane was taken off in the quarter-final first leg against Manchester City with what Spurs described as "a significant lateral ligament injury" to his left ankle and has not played since.

• Harry Winks has also not featured since the first leg of the City tie due to a groin problem.

• Serge Aurier has not played since suffering a hamstring injury in Ivory Coast's 3-0 Africa Cup of Nations qualifying win against Rwanda on 23 March.

• Erik Lamela returned as a late substitute at Ajax, his first appearance since the round of 16 second leg at Borussia Dortmund on 5 March due to a hamstring injury.

Liverpool
• Virgil van Dijk made his 50th appearance in UEFA club competition in the semi-final second leg; Xherdan Shaqiri will reach the same mark when he next features.

• Liverpool finished second in the Premier League after winning their last nine matches, beating Wolves 2-0 at Anfield on the final day. Jürgen Klopp's side ended a point behind Manchester City.

• The defeat at the Camp Nou in the semi-final first leg ended Liverpool's 19-match unbeaten run in all competitions (W14 D5), and was their first loss since a 2-1 FA Cup reverse at Wolves on 7 January. That loss at Barcelona is the only one of Liverpool's last 14 matches they failed to win.

• Sadio Mané has 13 goals in Liverpool's last 16 matches.

• Mané and Mohamed Salah, plus Arsenal's Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang, finished as joint top scorer in this season's Premier League with 22 goals apiece.

• Naby Keïta scored after 15 seconds in a 5-0 win against Huddersfield on 26 April, Liverpool's fastest Premier League goal.

• Trent Alexander-Arnold finished the 2018/19 Premier League with 12 assists, a new record for a defender; Andrew Robertson provided 11, equalling the old record held by Andy Hinchcliffe (1994/95) and Leighton Baines (2010/11).

• The Reds had kept five successive clean sheets before the 4-2 win against Burnley at Anfield on 10 March; having not managed one for five games before the quarter-final first leg with Porto, they have now kept six in the last nine.

• Keïta went off midway through the first half at Barcelona with a hip injury.

• Roberto Firmino has a groin injury and has not played since a brief substitute appearance at Barcelona.

• Robertson went off at half-time against Barcelona at Anfield with a calf problem, and was withdrawn late on against Wolves due to the same injury.

• Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain returned as a second-half substitute against Huddersfield on 26 April, having not played since suffering a serious knee injury in last season's UEFA Champions League semi-final first leg against Roma on 24 April 2018. He also came on against Wolves on the Premier League's final day.

• Adam Lallana, who has not played since 17 March, has been carrying a muscle injury.

• Liverpool had four representatives in the Professional Footballers' Association Team of the Year 2018/19: Alexander-Arnold, Van Dijk, Robertson and Mané.

• On 28 April Van Dijk was named PFA Players' Player of the Year; Mané was also included in the six-man shortlist.

TitianGerm

Boo, we wanted a Toby and Joe joint opening post. Two of them never lost faith!!

Tippex

:eek: as a united fan it is going to be interesting in more ways than one but I won't derail. I'm flying over on Tuesday to start the setup for the data collection (fanzone & festival fan behaviour) at the festival in (callao, puerto Del Sol, Plaza Mayor) (spending this weekend putting final touches to the kit etc) so will be there until Monday 3rd the festival starts on Thursday and runs until Sunday night going to be fun.

Btw @citytillidie absolute quality opening post kudos

Mister Gooey

It's going to be a long 7 day wait. The last few games between the 2 teams have ðŸ very open and entertaining. Hope the 'Pool win!

.G.

Tippex wrote:

as a united fan it is going to be interesting in more ways than one but I won't derail. I'm flying over on Tuesday to start the setup for the data collection (fanzone & festival fan behaviour) at the festival in (callao, puerto Del Sol, Plaza Mayor) (spending this weekend putting final touches to the kit etc) so will be there until Monday 3rd the festival starts on Thursday and runs until Sunday night going to be fun.

Any spares?

.G.

Just looking at the weather forecast. On the day of the final it's to be 33c. At kick off time it's to be 29c!

Tough conditions for the teams.

Tippex

.G. wrote: »

Any spares?

lol not even guaranteed I will have one for the match yet

.G.

sugarman wrote: »

Yeah big time ...Firminho, Salah and Mane wont be able to cope :pac:

Two teams that base their games on ferocious work rate, in that heat adds another factor into the mix.

.G.

Tippex wrote: »

lol not even guaranteed I will have one for the match yet

You might have the inside line on stuff then, surely they are going to lash up a couple of big screens for it somewhere?

I'm heading over Thursday, could get very messy if significant ticketless numbers like me travel and all have to find bars to watch it in.

Tippex

.G. wrote: »

You might have the inside line on stuff then, surely they are going to lash up a couple of big screens for it somewhere?

I'm heading over Thursday, could get very messy if significant ticketless numbers like me travel and all have to find bars to watch it in.

yep there is a fanzone split between plaza mayor (5-aside pitch with stands and a big screen) and Puerto del sol with a stage setup) its gonna be very impressive

Muahahaha

.G. wrote: »

Just looking at the weather forecast. On the day of the final it's to be 33c. At kick off time it's to be 29c!

Tough conditions for the teams.

Good thing that Klopp took them to Marbella for the warm weather training for the week to help acclimitise. Spurs are only flying to Madrid on Wednesday.

citytillidie

.G. wrote: »

You might have the inside line on stuff then, surely they are going to lash up a couple of big screens for it somewhere?

I'm heading over Thursday, could get very messy if significant ticketless numbers like me travel and all have to find bars to watch it in.

Tippex wrote: »

yep there is a fanzone split between plaza mayor (5-aside pitch with stands and a big screen) and Puerto del sol with a stage setup) its gonna be very impressive

According to the major of Liverpool those fans park will close at 4 on he Saturday not showing the game, I wonder if that has changed

.G.

He's guessing at 4pm. The official word from UEFA is 6pm and they have explicitly mentioned they aren't screening the game but the hope is they are just keeping it quiet until later in the week.

finbarrk

Tippex wrote: »

yep there is a fanzone split between plaza mayor (5-aside pitch with stands and a big screen) and Puerto del sol with a stage setup) its gonna be very impressive

That's the UEFA square. Liverpool have Felipe II square (Salvador Dali), and Tottenham have Colon Square. Only about 1 km apart. I'll be having beers there on Friday thankfully! In Felipe.

Muahahaha

.G. wrote: »

He's guessing at 4pm. The official word from UEFA is 6pm and they have explicitly mentioned they aren't screening the game but the hope is they are just keeping it quiet until later in the week.

I really hope they are screening the game on the squares/fan zones. Because if they don't then there is going to be 50,000+ supporters cramming into Spanish bars which arent really set up for watching with lots of tvs, some would only have one or two tvs in a huge bar, others have none at all. It will be carnage just to try to see the game for everyone without a ticket. Im heading to Madrid as well and all this contradictory news about screening the game or not is a load of cack, just put it on ffs.

.G.

Muahahaha wrote: »

I really hope they are screening the game on the squares/fan zones. Because if they don't then there is going to be 50,000+ supporters cramming into Spanish bars which arent really set up for watching with lots of tvs, some would only have one or two tvs in a huge bar, others have none at all. It will be carnage just to try to see the game for everyone without a ticket. Im heading to Madrid as well and all this contradictory news about screening the game or not is a load of cack, just put it on ffs.

I agree. However I've been to Madrid a few times and the one thing about it is its absolutely huge and there's bars everywhere, most as you say are small but they will show it. The Irish bars are to be avoided for me, they'll be unhealthily jammed. The area around Puerta del Sol and Plaza Mayor will be mental, I'm going to head further out from the centre and hopefully find a nice Spanish bar to watch it in.

I do worry they may have underestimated the numbers that will travel though which makes the lack of an outdoor screening a worry, certainly from the Liverpool side of things, Spurs is difficult to get a handle on how many will travel.

It was the weekend before the game last season when Klitschko intervened and announced a big screen showing the game, first time it ever happened.

Muahahaha

Yeah its just the whole organisation of the thing that is looking very shoddy, contradicting information is what we've got so far.

As Madrid is easily accessible from the UK I think Liverpool will bring at least 40,000 ticketless fans and Spurs perhaps about 20,000-30,000.Its ridiculous to set up these fan zones, UEFA Champions League village, concerts, 5 a side matches etc and then just shut down the whole area two hours before the main event that everyone has come to see. It defeats the whole purpose of a fan zone, i.e. people want to watch the game together. If thats the case visiting the fan zone on match day is pointless because all the nearby bars will be jammed if everyone knows it is closeing at 6pm, as you say better to go further out of the centre and find a bar showing it there. But that means less atmosphere compared to a fan zone. Mess of a situation imo.

citytillidie

Muahahaha wrote: »

Yeah its just the whole organisation of the thing that is looking very shoddy, contradicting information is what we've got so far.

As Madrid is easily accessible from the UK I think Liverpool will bring at least 40,000 ticketless fans and Spurs perhaps about 20,000-30,000.Its ridiculous to set up these fan zones, UEFA Champions League village, concerts, 5 a side matches etc and then just shut down the whole area two hours before the main event that everyone has come to see. It defeats the whole purpose of a fan zone, i.e. people want to watch the game together. If thats the case visiting the fan zone on match day is pointless because all the nearby bars will be jammed if everyone knows it is closeing at 6pm, as you say better to go further out of the centre and find a bar showing it there. But that means less atmosphere compared to a fan zone. Mess of a situation imo.

I say the original thought of those zones are for fans who travelled to go to the game with families to keep them entertained or those who don't want to sit in pubs. However UEFA have not thought of those traveling without tickets, UEFA will not care about those

.G.

Don't know the numbers for Kiev but there was upwards of 50000 Liverpool fans in Istanbul, Madrid is far easier to get to than that!

AidoEirE

As a spurs fan would ye start llorente or start kane if fit.
Imo Llorente deserves some spotlight, he's been superb in the games against City and Ajax.
Himself and VVD could have some battle.

Iused2likebusts

AidoEirE wrote: »

As a spurs fan would ye start llorente or start kane if fit.
Imo Llorente deserves some spotlight, he's been superb in the games against City and Ajax.
Himself and VVD could have some battle.

Llorente wont start even if Kane doesnt start. Son and Moura will start ahead of Llorente.

AidoEirE

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Llorente wont start even if Kane doesnt start. Son and Moura will start ahead of Llorente.

Id have son, moura and llorente starting if kane isnt fit. Wouldny have ali starting the game as his form as hit the floor the last few months.

ozzy jr

Anyone from here got a ticket?

Now I mean actually got a ticket now in there posession? Not on a promise or going over hoping to pick one up.

Tippex

citytillidie wrote: »

According to the major of Liverpool those fans park will close at 4 on he Saturday not showing the game, I wonder if that has changed

scheduled to close at 6 but I don't know if that is just the sponsors areas and all the activations. Guess I will find out on Tuesday when I get there.

Berserker

Muahahaha wrote: »

It will be carnage just to try to see the game for everyone without a ticket. Im heading to Madrid as well and all this contradictory news about screening the game or not is a load of cack, just put it on ffs.

Not worried you'll end up spending half the time strolling around the city trying to find somewhere to watch the game?

ozzy jr wrote: »

Anyone from here got a ticket?

Now I mean actually got a ticket now in there posession? Not on a promise or going over hoping to pick one up.

My brother got two in the UEFA ballot. There are category one tickets; horrifically expensive, €500 a piece, iirc. Bringing his brother-in-law who is a Spurs fan. Booked flights and accommodation before the final was decided.

Fitz*

Surely Kane is going to start - fully fit or not. He is a real Mé-féiner so will call rank as club captain and 'Mr Tottenham' and make sure he starts.

Berserker

FitzShane wrote: »

Surely Kane is going to start - fully fit or not. He is a real Mé-féiner so will call rank as club captain and 'Mr Tottenham' and make sure he starts.

I don't think calling rank at Spurs would be tolerated. Kane can't be match fit, so MP would need to take him off after 60 mins. He'll come on as a sub which means he'll be available if it goes to penalties. Smart money is on Liverpool in this, given the season they've had but I've no faith in them when it comes to finals. It could easily turn out to be a very cagey game which goes all the way.

Fitz*

Berserker wrote: »

I don't think calling rank at Spurs would be tolerated. Kane can't be match fit, so MP would need to take him off after 60 mins. He'll come on as a sub which means he'll be available if it goes to penalties. Smart money is on Liverpool in this, given the season they've had but I've no faith in them when it comes to finals. It could easily turn out to be a very cagey game which goes all the way.

If that was Gerrard coming back from an injury - he would start. Kane is the same way.

evil_seed

5 days to go lads. I'm already itching for it to be Saturday!

Fitz*

https://twitter.com/HotspurRelated/status/1132994705699037184

Deise Vu

^^^^ that means he is playing. By Saturday it will have been three weeks since anyone played a game so match fitness is hardly a major plus for anyone else. Even more important, Spurs were atrocious in the run in to the league. Kane's movement will also help to restrict Liverpool's full backs in that he will actually get tackles in which Llorente couldn't even hope to do and he will also move into any space left behind.

Also, he scores the odd goal or two.

0gac3yjefb5sv7

I'm thinking this might go to extra time..

.G.

Liverpool played a friendly against Benfica's B team over the weekend, I think Spurs are playing games against their own junior teams. Neither will be sufficient to maintain the required match sharpness but at least both are in the same boat. Ridiculous the premier league finished so much early than the other leagues around Europe.

citytillidie

.G. wrote: »

Liverpool played a friendly against Benfica's B team over the weekend, I think Spurs are playing games against their own junior teams. Neither will be sufficient to maintain the required match sharpness but at least both are in the same boat. Ridiculous the premier league finished so much early than the other leagues around Europe.

Other leagues had breaks Premier league did not, then you have to factor in the play-offs are on the 2nd May bank holiday, English football does not revolve around the Premier League.

Muahahaha

Tippex wrote: »

scheduled to close at 6 but I don't know if that is just the sponsors areas and all the activations. Guess I will find out on Tuesday when I get there.

be good if you could update here if its just a ruse to stop even more fans travelling

.G.

citytillidie wrote: »

Other leagues had breaks Premier league did not, then you have to factor in the play-offs are on the 2nd May bank holiday, English football does not revolve around the Premier League.

Didn't say it did mate :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Didn't have a winter break last year either and didn't have a ridiculous 3 week gap at the end. I think other leagues started a week later this season due to the world cup, Premier league could have done similar. As for the playoffs, the Premier league has no problem playing games on previously exclusive FA cup weekends so pissing on the playoffs wouldn't bother them in the slightest.

citytillidie

.G. wrote: »

Didn't say it did mate :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Didn't have a winter break last year either and didn't have a ridiculous 3 week gap at the end. I think other leagues started a week later this season due to the world cup, Premier league could have done similar. As for the playoffs, the Premier league has no problem playing games on previously exclusive FA cup weekends so pissing on the playoffs wouldn't bother them in the slightest.

There was a 2 week break last season

Harry Palmr

Liverpool have been in 25% of CL finals since 2005, victory would be 50% success rate and overall it's the 9th Big Ears final since 1977 which is one every 4.6 years, winning in 2019 would be a 66% success rate

.G.

Harry Palmr wrote:

Liverpool have been in 25% of CL finals since 2005, victory would be 50% success rate and overall it's the 9th Big Ears final since 1977 which is one every 4.6 years, winning in 2019 would be a 66% success rate

Our record overall is amazing but since 2005 particularly impressive when you take into consideration we weren't even in the competition for something like 8 years in that period. Same number of finals as Real Madrid and Barca in that time I think.

Shame we haven't won as many as they did in that time frame!

lassykk

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Liverpool have been in 25% of CL finals since 2005, victory would be 50% success rate and overall it's the 9th Big Ears final since 1977 which is one every 4.6 years, winning in 2019 would be a 66% success rate

That's an amazing stat considering they have only challenged for the PL three times in the same period (that I can recall - this year, once under Rodgers and once under Benitez since 2005). Their European pedigree is unreal.

Tippex

So been here the last 2 days and its going to be crazy over here. Speaking to a couple of touts they are trying to get up to 10k a ticket it is mental what they are asking and its even worse if you want a pair

Fitz*

Tippex wrote: »

So been here the last 2 days and its going to be crazy over here. Speaking to a couple of touts they are trying to get up to 10k a ticket it is mental what they are asking and its even worse if you want a pair

most tickets seem to be sold out on the online sites, but have heard that 10k was the going rate at the end.

Madrid is going to be bedlam around the hours before & after the match. The 2 fan parks are only 1km away from each other, on the same street. No big screen for either sets of fans. So 30,000+ fans from both teams are going to be congregating in the same area roughly trying to get into the same bars to watch the match. And the locals. And Spanish police don't take too kindly to drunk British football fans. They assume everyone is a hooligan from the 80s.

Berserker

Tippex wrote: »

So been here the last 2 days and its going to be crazy over here. Speaking to a couple of touts they are trying to get up to 10k a ticket it is mental what they are asking and its even worse if you want a pair

Saw a few on the re-sale sites a few days ago for €7K-€9K. The €7K one was marked as a restricted view seat. Would love to meet the people who bought those tickets.

Adamocovic

These things write themselves!

Souness is a gift that keeps giving.

"Spurs shouldn't be there," Souness said at the launch of Virgin Media's Finals Week celebrating their coverage of the Champions League and Europa League deciders.

"You say to anyone at the start of the season, 'This team is going to lose 19 games in all competitions and yet they'll find themselves in the Champions League final' you'd have said they're talking nonsense. They've somehow got themselves there, they are fortunate to be there."

So Graeme believes Spurs shouldn't be in the final, he goes on to argue Liverpool deserve and haven't been lucky but that Spurs may get lucky again.

The funniest part of this to me is the fascination of a team with 19 losses getting to the final. Argueing that they don't deserve or shouldn't be there.....

In 2005 Liverpool had....you guessed it 19 defeats before beating Milan in that iconic night!

.G.

Tippex wrote: »

So been here the last 2 days and its going to be crazy over here. Speaking to a couple of touts they are trying to get up to 10k a ticket it is mental what they are asking and its even worse if you want a pair

You can still get some UEFA hospitality for €6900 each!

Heading over tomorrow. Can't wait.

Potential Underachiever

Adamocovic wrote: »

These things write themselves!

Souness is a gift that keeps giving.



So Graeme believes Spurs shouldn't be in the final, he goes on to argue Liverpool deserve and haven't been lucky but that Spurs may get lucky again.

The funniest part of this to me is the fascination of a team with 19 losses getting to the final. Argueing that they don't deserve or shouldn't be there.....

In 2005 Liverpool had....you guessed it 19 defeats before beating Milan in that iconic night!

Agreed, I don't mind Souness in general but that's bollock talk, it's completely irrelevant how many games Spurs lost they're obviously there on merit.

8-10

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Liverpool have been in 25% of CL finals since 2005, victory would be 50% success rate and overall it's the 9th Big Ears final since 1977 which is one every 4.6 years, winning in 2019 would be a 66% success rate

9 finals out of 23 seasons in the competition, and after getting to 11 semi-finals in those 23 attempts

Berserker

.G. wrote: »

You can still get some UEFA hospitality for €6900 each!

Heading over tomorrow. Can't wait.

How the other half live! Hope you enjoy it. Would be interested to know what you get for that kind of money.

5starpool

Tippex wrote: »

So been here the last 2 days and its going to be crazy over here. Speaking to a couple of touts they are trying to get up to 10k a ticket it is mental what they are asking and its even worse if you want a pair

Absolutely ridiculous. Unless you're loaded and 10k is largely meaningless to you, anyone who pays anything like that for a ticket is a mental case.

Tippex

5starpool wrote: »

Absolutely ridiculous. Unless you're loaded and 10k is largely meaningless to you, anyone who pays anything like that for a ticket is a mental case.

Totally agree. Struck up a decent conversation with one and his mate said would you pay 1,500 for one and I was like no I’m an UTD fan give it to a fan who really wants to go. I can defo see it being messy even today around sol and plaza mayor it was busy as hell.

There is a rumour that uefa are trying to get the city to agree to a big screen at the stage in sol (stage is bloody massive especially considering the acts are nomarks i think)

TitianGerm

Berserker wrote: »

How the other half live! Hope you enjoy it. Would be interested to know what you get for that kind of money.

He's only gone over to the fanzones I think.