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Mission : Break 1:40 for HM

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Singer


    sub-1:40 or bust! Hope you have a great race.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,457 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    The Charleville pacers can be a little over enthusiastic so keep an eye on your watch, especially in the opening kms, the first of which is very fast (as you know already). Good luck!


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,851 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    15/09 Race Charleville 13.1 miles

    Short Summary: Busted

    Long Story:
    1 st 5K: Pacers went off fast but I was ready for this, thanks Murph_D. I just took my time and slowly caught up and they slowed down also.
    First 5k felt good, 23:37 on target.

    2nd 5k: Around the 7k mark the pacers pushed the pace on, we all noticed but a few of us decided not to go with it, kinda knew their game.
    Sadly around 9k i was working too hard to my liking, pacers in my few but I wasn't happy. 5k : 23:47

    3rd & 4th 5k: Car crash, wheels in the ditch, right foot picked up a bad blister, what could go wrong was going wrong. Walking and running strategy now and I knew I was going to jump into the car 500m from the finish. Saw an ambulance fly by us, could be worst.

    Last K: With 500m to go i just turned into the car park where my car was. I had enough, I know it was bad form, but I didn't want to be near people. Just wanted to get out of there and go home. time would of been 1:49:00 - 1:50:59

    Overall devasted by the race, such a long drive down that morning and then back up. 5 hrs in total.
    Where did it go wrong, no idea, body just stopped or mentally gave up. Training went well, hit the race pace easily and I know I could turn 16k out at race pace no problem on this Thursday if I wanted. Not blaming the heat as it never entered my head during it.

    No more half marathons for awhile now, year or more. Might focus back on 5k or 10k, see how it goes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,021 ✭✭✭Kellygirl


    Sorry to hear you had such a rough day. If it’s any consolation at all, you are far from being alone. Humidity was 93% according to my app and while that may be slightly off it was extremely high and humidity really does seem to affect people’s performance.

    When I finished the girl in front of me collapsed and there were a few people being treated my medics I would presume for over heating / dehydration. I think a lot of people under estimated how humid / hot it was.

    Put it behind you as soon as can and the training is banked. Nobody can take that away from you.

    By the way, the only reason I didn’t do the same as you and run into the car park was I’d given my phone to a friend who was waiting at the finish line and left my bag in bag drop ... but I did think about it!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,021 ✭✭✭Kellygirl


    Also this is a post my coach did on humidity and she directed me to it yesterday after speaking about my dismal performance. Hope it helps. https://www.instagram.com/p/BnRPanGBpsq/?igshid=1v9r3rfe01orj


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,582 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    Checked their website and your right. Sent them an email. I am sure it be all ok. Don't think i care too much at this stage which is odd
    Where did it go wrong, no idea, body just stopped or mentally gave up.

    Hope you don't take this the wrong way but I recall you posting this in the race thread. It doesn't sound like your head was really there to begin with? Anything obvious youre possibly ignoring here?

    That being said I didn't see many people happy with their Charleville experience this year with the heat and humidity.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,851 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    Hope you don't take this the wrong way but I recall you posting this in the race thread. It doesn't sound like your head was really there to begin with? Anything obvious youre possibly ignoring here?

    That being said I didn't see many people happy with their Charleville experience this year with the heat and humidity.


    I was in the game when I got there. Usually a few days out before a race I lose a bit of interest but once I am there I am tune in.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,457 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    I was in the game when I got there. Usually a few days out before a race I lose a bit of interest but once I am there I am tune in.

    Have you DNF’d before? It’s not a habit I’d be anxious to get into. Tough day, no doubt about it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,851 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    Murph_D wrote: »
    Have you DNF’d before? It’s not a habit I’d be anxious to get into. Tough day, no doubt about it.

    Only once during the Dublin marathon years ago. Alot going on outside the running back then so was a bit different.

    This time i was more grumpty than anything else and when like that you might as well be talking to a wall:D

    Have a new plan for where I want to go from now till next summer:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,851 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    So after the half marathon collapse, i took a few days off and thought about my next steps.

    The plan for the next 6-9 months is to focus on 5k - 10k, mixing up Jack Daniel sessions with club sessions also, depending on committments.
    5k and 10k times haven't been great over the last 2 years so like to get close to sub 20 again and under 42:30 for 10k.

    25/09[ Easy Run Time 8.82k, Time 49:18, Pace 5:35
    Easy run in the local park and some strides in the middle of it.


    23/09 Jack Daniels 2 sets of (8 x 200/200 rec) 800m between sets

    2k warm before this session, Reps were 47, 51, 44, 45, 44, 45, 47, 43, 45, 44, 46, 46, 43, 46, 46, 43
    2k warm down

    Good session and something different was nice.

    22/9 Easy Run 8.5k, Time 46:14, Pace 5:28
    Easy run in the local park and some strides.


    20/9 Easy Run 10k, PAce 5:43, Time 57:57
    Easy 10k with some strides thrown in also.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,851 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    A quick update.

    7/10 15k Time 1:21:13, Avg Pace 5:25
    Long run in Lucan as won't get out this weekend. Good run until it lashed rain.
    Club session tomorrow.


    5/10 16k Time 1:27:13, Avg Pace 5:27
    Early run in Lucan, good few hills in this run. Felt good.

    4/10 Recovery Run 8k Time 44:29
    Easy lunch time recovery run. Kept this very easy.

    3/10 JD Session 3 x 1 mile, 4 x 200m
    Back in ringsend park for this, very windy so hard to be consistent.
    Mile reps were 7:05, 7:01, 7:08
    200 reps were 45, 47, 47, 45

    1/10 Club session 6 x 3min, 2 min recovery

    Club session on the track. Good session.
    Reps avg pace were: 3:51, 3:53, 3:53, 3:55, 3:48, 3:52

    30/09, Threadmill, 10k, Time 52:32

    A wet day, so went to the local flyfit gym. Nothing exciting on the threadmill to report


    16k , Time 1:28:15, Pace 5:31
    Early morning run down home. Plenty of hills but a nice run except for listening to the Ireland match


    26/9 JD Session 2 x 1 mile, 2 x (4 x 200m)

    Lunch time run in Ringsend. 2k warm up.
    200's were 45, 46, 49, 45
    Mile Reps were 7:01, 7:03
    200's were 44, 46, 48, 48,

    2k cool down


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,851 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    Really struggling to keep this log up to date but I am training away. Below is a summary of my runs:

    8/10 Club session 6 x 3 min, 2 min rec. Good tough session, enjoying training on the track
    9/10 Recovery run to Ringsend
    10/10 Easy 10k at lunch time
    11/10 Jack Daniels session, 4 x 200m, 4x 400m, 4 x200m. A good session and tough conditions in Ringsend Park.
    14/10 Aerobic 10k at lunch time to Sandymount, 52:52 time
    15/10 5k time trial on the track. First 3k went well, average pace 4:07, 4th k and 5th k wheels came off, 4:12 and 4:16. Finished in 21:08. So that's my starting point.
    16/10 Recovery run to Ringsend
    17/10 2 sets of (4x400m) 1k jog between sets. A good session in Ringsend park, legs seem to have more of a spring in them since the time trial
    19/10 10 mile in Wexford. Nice run on the hills in 1:26:35.
    21/10 Aerobic 10k at lunch time. Time 51:17

    Saturday will do a local park run.

    Best of luck all in the Dublin Marathon on Sunday.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,851 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    Quick Summary Update

    26/10 Griffeen Park Run Time 21:27
    First time running the new course and Griffeen is usually 30 secs or more slower 5k course.
    First k was 4:08, next two were slow, 4:16, 4:20, the bridge turn is here, so you do lose a few seconds here but also I lost focus.
    Next 2k i focused on catching up on people, 4:14 for the 4th k and 4:10 for the last up the hill. To be honest felt strong throughout just lack the speed.

    27/10 10k in Wicklow on the N11, Time was 52:34, pace 5:15. Decided not to do 16k, as did the parkrun the day before.

    29/10 4 x 1200's with 3 mins recovery in ringsend park. Reps were 4:07, 5:01, 5:03, 4:59

    31/10 4 x 1 mile with 1 min recoveryon the sea front to Sandymount. Reps were 7 min, 7:06, 7:04, 7:02

    01/11 Recovery Run, 6k Time 34:14, Pace 5:42

    02/11 10 mile run at home, Time 1:26:51, pace 5:26

    04/11 Raining outside so 10k on threadmill in the gym, time 52:27, Pace 5:15

    5/11 Club session 5 x 4 min, 2:30 rec. Kept the first 4 at 5k pace and let loose on the last, Reps pace were 4:03, 4:04, 4:06, 4:04, 3:39

    6/11 Lunch time recovery run towards Sandymount 8k, time 44:48, Pace 5:36

    7/11 Raining at lunch time, so did the threadmill again, 1k warm up, 6k @ 4:30 pace and 1k warm down @5:40 pace


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,851 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    Summary Update

    9/11 10 Miles down home in Wexford, a good hilly route, time 1:27:34, Pace 5:28
    11/11 5 x 1k with 400m rec.
    Did this on Monday as plan was to run in the dark the Wednesday. Very windy out so splits all over the place, 4:10, 4:13, 4:16, 4:13, 4:17
    12/11 Easy run, 9k Time 50:04, Pace 5:34
    13/11 Didnt run the "Run in the Dark", Weather was brutal and glad I missed it after the reports
    14/11 10k run with 6k @tempo. Splits for 6k were 4:28, 4:25, 4:25, 4:23, 4:31, 4:26. A good tempo run, felt strong throughout.

    Picked up a cold on Friday so no running till Wednesday. Will also give Jingle Bells a miss this year as alot going on.


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