Summer 2019 - General Discussion

Gonzo

another warm day at home in Dunshaughlin with temperatures making it to a respectful 22C, alot of cloud around. If there were some decent breaks could easily make 23 or 24C.

glightning

I think SE England might miss out on its record now. There is a long stream of convective cloud heading it’s way and already beginning to stream inland. This might reduce insolation and reduce max temps there. London is on 35c but could be a struggle to get to 39c now. Might even remain pegged back at 36c if cloud cover is extensive enough and will also miss the July record. Things could change though.

Paris seems the place with the most remarkable weather today. Already 40c there at lunchtime!

sryanbruen

36c at Cambridge glightning and cloud doesn’t look to be heading that way... models have been showing Cambridgeshire as a hot spot. Some storms look possible around 1700 though.

Keep in mind, 1 July 2015 had a fair bit of cloud too.

Edit: getting to the point where we can discount at least 39c I think though.

SleetAndSnow

Another cloudy grey day in cork city. About 18/19 degrees but a fresh breeze

lawred2

Sleety_Rain wrote: »

Reports of a fine day in North Dublin, almost full sunshine

bank of clouds imminent from the south

sryanbruen

lawred2 wrote: »

bank of clouds imminent from the south

Completely clouded over now in Dublin 13 after a fantastic hour or two of plentiful blue skies.

Meanwhile, 37c in Cambridge and nearly 41c in Paris (new record).

DOCARCH

sryanbruen wrote: »

Meanwhile, 37c in Cambridge....

Heathrow AP, London City AP and Bedford not too far behind at 36c.

sryanbruen

DOCARCH wrote: »

Heathrow AP, London City AP and Bedford not too far behind at 36c.

Heathrow's at 36.9c, new July record confirmed by latest UKMO tweet.

https://twitter.com/metoffice/status/1154369428525637632

Oscar Bravo

Heathrow 36.9 now

DOCARCH

Paris (Orly AP) reporting 42c atm.

JCX BXC

Oscar Bravo wrote: »

Heathrow 36.9 now

Heathrow, Stansted and London City all reporting 37°c (rounded) at 2:20pm.

sryanbruen

Hottest days on record for the UK in terms of absolute max. 25 July 2019 with 37.2c at Heathrow is now the second hottest on record. Super weird summer of 2019!

38.5 C = 10 Aug 2003
37.2 C = 25 Jul 2019
37.1 C = 03 Aug 1990
36.7 C = 01 Jul 2015
36.7 C = 09 Aug 1911
36.6 C = 02 Aug 1990
36.5 C = 19 Jul 2006
36.4 C = 06 Aug 2003
36.1 C = 04 Aug 1990
36.0 C = 09 Aug 2003
35.9 C = 03 Jul 1976

Data from UK Met Office.

Assetbacked

Sky has gone black in Grand Canal Dock. A deluge of rain looks like it could (and hopefully does) fall. It's so sticky out.

thomasm

JCX BXC wrote: »

Heathrow, Stansted and London City all reporting 37°c (rounded) at 2:20pm.

I'm sure its being asked before but for someone with no technical knowledge how is there such a difference between Ireland and UK ?


Is it down to the seas. To have some place an hours flight away nearly 20 degrees higher seems extraordinary !!

Mobhi1

It's gone completely cloudy here now in Glasnevin and the temperature's fallen to 21.8C after reaching a high of 23.3C a short while ago.

JCX BXC

thomasm wrote: »

I'm sure its being asked before but for someone with no technical knowledge how is there such a difference between Ireland and UK ?


Is it down to the seas. To have some place an hours flight away nearly 20 degrees higher seems extraordinary !!

Much closer to continent, urban heat effect, larger landmass, slightly further south, many many factors that ensure London has a very different climate to us relative to how near it is to us

pad199207

JCX BXC wrote: »

Much closer to continent, urban heat effect, larger landmass, slightly further south, many many factors that ensure London has a very different climate to us relative to how near it is to us

Just just London today, even Liverpool just across from Dublin is nearly 11 degrees warmer

Mobhi1

Is it 26C in Derry at the moment?

JCX BXC

Mobhi1 wrote: »

Is it 26C in Derry at the moment?

Airport says 25°c so I doubt it's far off that.

DOCARCH

pad199207 wrote: »

Just just London today, even Liverpool just across from Dublin is nearly 11 degrees warmer

And they have thunderstorms (now)!

compsys

thomasm wrote: »

I'm sure its being asked before but for someone with no technical knowledge how is there such a difference between Ireland and UK ?


Is it down to the seas. To have some place an hours flight away nearly 20 degrees higher seems extraordinary !!

Because the UK and Ireland are so interlinked with history, politics, and culture etc a lot of people seem to think this should extend to the weather, which is naive.

"Oh it's sunny in London, why isn't it sunny in Dublin/Ireland? We should be getting it too".

But London is over 500km away from Dublin. Over 650km away from Galway. It's not like it's just down the road.

500-700km is a big distance in weather terms. Lots of countries and cities all over the world would have similar weather discrepancies over that distance.

Think Sydney v Melbourne, Bergen in Norway v Stockholm and San Fran v Las Vagas.

20 degrees, while unusual, isn't extraordinary as London is miles away and is a different climate to Ireland.

Slashermcguirk

pad199207 wrote: »

Just just London today, even Liverpool just across from Dublin is nearly 11 degrees warmer

I think this is unprecedented though. Normally in heatwaves there would never be this type of difference in temperature. Last summers heatwave for example had the likes of Shannon very close to London and warmer than much of the UK.

Even the last European heat wave in June, there was nowhere near these types of discrepancy between temps in Ireland vs Britain. They will always get warmer weather in London than here but the likes of Liverpool would be very similar to Ireland.

This weather event this week is very much an exceptional situation. Most of this summer the likes of London tended to be about 3-4 degrees warmer than Dublin

Mars Bar

Fast Twitch wrote: »

Anyone find it particularly hard to sleep last night?

I had no problem all the other warm nights of similar temperature but was sweating and sticky all last night.

Location South Midlands.

Nope :

glightning

compsys wrote: »

Because the UK and Ireland are so interlinked with history, politics, and culture etc a lot of people seem to think this should extend to the weather, which is naive.

"Oh it's sunny in London, why isn't it sunny in Dublin/Ireland? We should be getting it too".

But London is over 500km away from Dublin. Over 650km away from Galway. It's not like it's just down the road.

500-700km is a big distance in weather terms. Lots of countries and cities all over the world would have similar weather discrepancies over that distance.

Think Sydney v Melbourne, Bergen in Norway v Stockholm and San Fran v Las Vagas.

20 degrees, while unusual, isn't extraordinary as London is miles away and is a different climate to Ireland.

Good points! I sometimes travel to San Fran with work and in summer the city is usually only in the teens or low twenties. You only have to travel 30 to 40 miles south or inland for the temp to be in the 30’s on the same day. Climate can and does vary significantly even over relatively short distances.

Fast Twitch

Mars Bar wrote: »

Nope :

Very consistent sleep pattern. Fair play:)

glightning

But the main significant factor for us is that most heat is pumped up by a low to the west of Ireland when a high is to the east.

Unfortunately this means that if you track the air backwards, most of our air comes around the underside of the low and mixes with the hot air coming up from the south. Whereas in England they don’t get that Atlantic air mixing so much. They get a much more southerly feed of drier air from the near continent with very little if any Atlantic air mixing in during these spells. Unfortunate

Slashermcguirk

I see Paris broke it’s all time recordtoday...I am kind of surprised the record there is not closer to 45. Looks like they will be around 42-43 degrees today. UK seems to be falling just shy of their record of 38 unless it gets warmer over the coming hour. Presumably optimum temperature would be generally be reached pre 4pm?

Fast Twitch

https://www.netweather.tv/live-weather/top-20/maxt

Cambridge 38C.. probably rounded.

Won't take much to push 38C to beyond 38.5C.. Surely there's an hour of heat build up left..

sryanbruen

37.9c at Heathrow apparently but not sure on that. 37.7c at Kew Gardens and Writtle anyway.

igCorcaigh

Cork is practically the coldest place in Europe!
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