Youths doing ****ty things but not shooting anyone

mistersifter

she's putting Ireland on the map!

Story made Argentina's biggest paper.


https://www.clarin.com/sociedad/mexicano-denuncio-acoso-discriminacion-adolescentes-irlanda-habla-ingles_0_RYq_Etfmd.html

MrFresh

The story about the kids trying to set fire to the tent with the homeless man inside is getting a lot of attention too. They were even younger.

guapos

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/cleaner-slapped-girl-11-after-she-poured-liquid-on-his-wife-38186554.html

Will be interesting to hear the "victim" impact statement

tupenny

FFred wrote: »

Looking at the long video again, the feral children walked away repeatedly and the filmmaker followed them asking ‘what is your problem?’ etc.

He is the adult in this encounter and made a bad situation worse with his lack of streetwiseness. I myself, as an adult who works with such youths, think he handled the situation poorly.

Exactly what i thought too. He almost "eggs them on". Obviously they're little ****s but they're idiot kids and he's the adult in the situation

is_that_so

Deleted User wrote: »

Anyone know what prompted this video? Was it just general hi-jinx by bored kids?

I’d guess the parents of these kids will be none too pleased, not about the behavior of their precious darlings, but that a stranger posted a video of them on YouTube Facebook and other social media sites.

I wouldn’t be surprised if some members of that community confronted him on this regardless of whether he was “within his rights”- walking away and avoiding confrontation is the best policy in these situations. I mean, trying to explain that you pay taxes to such a kid displaying this behavior- you’re really not going to get anywhere.

Adult v Child "debate" is bad optics, even with your own. The core of that kind of stuff tends to come from the kitchen table or perhaps peers. The first brat looks to be the gang leader and the second one just apes her behaviour. At this stage it is likely to follow them around for quite a while, dare I say deservedly so. I am still inclined to say he should have walked away but when you're not actually there that's just an easier outcome to see.

is_that_so

FFred wrote: »

Looking at the long video again, the feral children walked away repeatedly and the filmmaker followed them asking ‘what is your problem?’ etc.

He is the adult in this encounter and made a bad situation worse with his lack of streetwiseness. I myself, as an adult who works with such youths, think he handled the situation poorly.

Yeah, he is but there is a cultural thing at work from his perspective and the concept of what they call educación in Spanish - how you behave. It is a very big deal and goes someway to explaining his reaction. What he really needed here was a voice in his ear saying forget about this nonsense.

spurious

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/cleaner-slapped-girl-11-after-she-poured-liquid-on-his-wife-38186554.html

Another tremendous example of Irish parenting at work.

tl; dr Somebody's little darling abuses Polish cleaner, throws pizza at her and pours drink on her head, abuses cleaner's husband when he arrives. He slaps her and is up before the beak.

topper75

Noveight wrote: »

Peter Casey saw a huge jump in support after having a go at our leniency with Travellers and their BS.

I reckon there are votes there to be won should a politician approach with a balanced and reasonable solutions to problems like scumbags, Travelers, life-long welfare abusers, etc.

Such a politician or group would have serious work on their hands. Such policies would be loudly decried as draconian or fascist by many incumbent politicos who very much have the ear of most leading media organs in Ireland today. Irish political and moral opinion is very driven by mainstream media. If you can't get them onside you have nothing.

tayto lover

spurious wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/cleaner-slapped-girl-11-after-she-poured-liquid-on-his-wife-38186554.html

Another tremendous example of Irish parenting at work.

tl; dr Somebody's little darling abuses Polish cleaner, throws pizza at her and pours drink on her head, abuses cleaner's husband when he arrives. He slaps her and is up before the beak.

Ridiculous but not surprising,

Deebles McBeebles

spurious wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/cleaner-slapped-girl-11-after-she-poured-liquid-on-his-wife-38186554.html

Another tremendous example of Irish parenting at work.

tl; dr Somebody's little darling abuses Polish cleaner, throws pizza at her and pours drink on her head, abuses cleaner's husband when he arrives. He slaps her and is up before the beak.

Was it wrong to hit her? Probably.
Did she deserve it? Definitely.

whisky_galore

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/online-threats-have-massive-impact-on-author-whose-article-featured-in-junior-cert-english-929151.html

Why would anyone bother looking up the author of a piece in an exam paper simply to hurl dog's abuse at them??

is_that_so

whisky_galore wrote: »

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/online-threats-have-massive-impact-on-author-whose-article-featured-in-junior-cert-english-929151.html

Why would anyone bother looking up the author of a piece in an exam paper simply to hurl dog's abuse at them??

This is apparently what Gen Z students, who one day may be our leaders, do.

ED E

Kids from the same estate:

https://twitter.com/DubFireBrigade/status/1135683908924837889

whisky_galore

is_that_so wrote: »

This is apparently what Gen Z students, who one day may be our leaders, do.

What comes after Z? Do we start at A again?

Deebles McBeebles

whisky_galore wrote: »

What comes after Z? Do we start at A again?

Just go for Z again, sure why not. The old place won't last too much longer anyway if the link above is anything to go by.

TeaBagMania

nah, we've abandoned the alphabet in favor of just calling them what they are, Snowflakes or the like

is_that_so

whisky_galore wrote: »

What comes after Z? Do we start at A again?

Well Gen X was coined in 1965 by Douglas Coupland at the end of the baby boomers and they were followed by Y (Millenials) about 20 years later. Z is obviously a more recent one and came from an online competition run by USA Today. As it's all about being comfortable and technology and digital natives it could be around for a while.

dublinman1990

People can become real pathetic morons sometimes. F*cking scumbags. I hope the Gardaí catches them with whatever powers they have under the arms of the law.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Appalling behaviour.

A combination of no class and bad breeding.

caff

tupenny wrote: »

Exactly what i thought too. He almost "eggs them on". Obviously they're little ****s but they're idiot kids and he's the adult in the situation

They ripped his headphones off as he wait at the luas stop. I'd be pretty pissed off too

FFred

caff wrote: »

They ripped his headphones off as he wait at the luas stop. I'd be pretty pissed off too

I must have missed that part of the video(s).

Fr. Pat Noise

Father Pat here- I’ll bet that kid’s family are “known” to the guards. I’m surprised it got to court.

Harvey Weinstein

New Irish robbing other New Irish at knifepoint

Sure we've always had ..yadda yadda yadda


https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/phone-shop-north-dublin-video-16418407

FaxingBerlin

Varadkars Ireland

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u1Vhq47nJI

MrFresh

The two new accounts falling over themselves to post the story. Ye could at least try to coordinate.

Wanderer78

FaxingBerlin wrote:

Varadkars Ireland

Since when did he buy the country?

FaxingBerlin

MrFresh wrote: »

The two new accounts falling over themselves to post the story. Ye could at least try to coordinate.

You dont be worrying about that. Have you not got some rights to be fighting for on another thread? lol

FaxingBerlin

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Since when did he buy the country?

He may not own it but hes doing a good job of selling it.

Wanderer78

FaxingBerlin wrote:

He may not own it but hes doing a good job of selling it.

Please do explain?

weldoninhio

FaxingBerlin wrote: »

Varadkars Ireland

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u1Vhq47nJI

Not even a bit of hurry in them. Calm and calculated. People need to start looking out for one another. When the state can't/won't protect its citizens, it is the citizens duty to protect themselves.

MrFresh

FaxingBerlin wrote: »

You dont be worrying about that. Have you not got some rights to be fighting for on another thread? lol

Do you think that's an insult?

FaxingBerlin

weldoninhio wrote: »

Not even a bit of hurry in them. Calm and calculated. People need to start looking out for one another. When the state can't/won't protect its citizens, it is the citizens duty to protect themselves.

They were watching that shop for a while because there is normally 3 or 4 Indian guys in there. Bout 200 metres from the garda station too. What a joke.

Kivaro

MrFresh wrote: »

The two new accounts falling over themselves to post the story. Ye could at least try to coordinate.

Ah typical.
Attacking the messenger of the story and not the criminality exhibited; only due to fact that it is another example of how black gangs are prevalent in the Dublin area and the strife they are causing in various communities ....

FaxingBerlin

Kivaro wrote: »

Ah typical.
Attacking the messenger of the story and not the criminality exhibited; only due to fact that it is another example of how black gangs are prevalent in the Dublin area and the strife they are causing in various communities ....

Fresh is only interested in natives causing trouble. Obvious agenda going on there.

MrFresh

Kivaro wrote: »

Ah typical.
Attacking the messenger of the story and not the criminality exhibited; only due to fact that it is another example of how black gangs are prevalent in the Dublin area and the strife they are causing in various communities ....

FaxingBerlin wrote: »

Fresh is only interested in natives causing trouble. Obvious agenda going on there.

There is an obvious agenda alright. I get that you guys miss your racist thread but this thread is titled "Youths doing ****ty things." This is two men committing an armed robbery. Not really the same thing is it. I'm sure you can find a better place to post every bad thing black people do.



Also, as far as I can tell, there's nothing to suggest they are not natives. He doesn't mention any kind of accent or anything.

Walter Bishop

You'll find that the likes of them don't consider anyone born in Ireland that isn't white to be Irish, regardless of what the law or anything else might say.

FaxingBerlin

MrFresh wrote: »

There is an obvious agenda alright. I get that you guys miss your racist thread but this thread is titled "Youths doing ****ty things." This is two men committing an armed robbery. Not really the same thing is it. I'm sure you can find a better place to post every bad thing black people do.



Also, as far as I can tell, there's nothing to suggest they are not natives. He doesn't mention any kind of accent or anything.

As far as I can tell there is nothing to suggest they are natives, although its possible they were anchor babies. Not Irish imo.

MrFresh

FaxingBerlin wrote: »

As far as I can tell there is nothing to suggest they are natives, although its possible they were anchor babies. Not Irish imo.

Would the victim not have mentioned it during his detailed description?

FaxingBerlin

MrFresh wrote: »

Would the victim not have mentioned it during his detailed description?

Maybe he did. I'm sure he gave more of a detailed description in his statement to the Gardai.

MrFresh

FaxingBerlin wrote: »

Maybe he did. I'm sure he gave more of a detailed description in his statement to the Gardai.

Possibly. It would at least give you something to justify your claim.

FaxingBerlin

MrFresh wrote: »

Possibly. It would at least give you something to justify your claim.

You need to to stop trying to claim everybody that lives here as Irish all the time. Being born here doesn't mean anything, you know a lot of people born here dont identify as Irish anyway they identify as being the nationality of their parents. Also this "black irish" bull****. You're Irish or your arent. No need to bring colour into it. I dont see the need for it.

weldoninhio

MrFresh wrote: »

Possibly. It would at least give you something to justify your claim.

Whist. If there was no video footage there would be no mention of the ethnicity of the robbers. You know it and I know it.

MrFresh

FaxingBerlin wrote: »

You need to to stop trying to claim everybody that lives here as Irish all the time. Being born here doesn't mean anything, you know a lot of people born here dont identify as Irish anyway they identify as being the nationality of their parents. Also this "black irish" bull****. You're Irish or your arent. No need to bring colour into it. I dont see the need for it.

Article 2


It is the entitlement and birthright of every person born in the island of Ireland, which includes its islands and seas, to be part of the Irish Nation.

weldoninhio wrote: »

Whist. If there was no video footage there would be no mention of the ethnicity of the robbers. You know it and I know it.

The difference is, their ethnicity doesn't change anything for me. I don't see this crime as any different to all the other armed robberies committed in the State. You take extra offence because of their ethnicity.

TeaBagMania

FaxingBerlin wrote: »

Also this "black irish" bull****. You're Irish or your arent. No need to bring colour into it. I dont see the need for it.

exactly, same BS here in the states (african american) you're either american or african, you want to be african than f*** off back to africa

MrFresh

TeaBagMania wrote: »

exactly, same BS here in the states (african american) you're either american or african, you want to be african than f*** off back to africa

You guys really don't like the founding principles of this country. The constitution specifically recognises the importance of people's connections to their ancestral home. Perhaps if you don't like the basic ideas this country was founded upon it is you who should **** off.

Article 2


Furthermore, the Irish nation cherishes its special affinity with people of Irish ancestry living abroad who share its cultural identity and heritage.

RobbieTheRobber

TeaBagMania wrote: »

exactly, same BS here in the states (african american) you're either american or african, you want to be african than f*** off back to africa

So i assume you have the same problems with anyone calling themselves irish/american and the whole irish community shtick in the US then?

Hammer89

I do feel a bit sorry for this young girl because, well, she's a young girl who has gone viral for being a racist. Some might argue that it's a fitting punishment for racism, but not if you're 14. At that age you're not thinking for yourself. You're regurgitating what you hear from your mum or dad or older siblings.

Not to sound too soft-hearted, but I do hope she's okay.

TeaBagMania

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

So i assume you have the same problems with anyone calling themselves irish/american and the whole irish community shtick in the US then?

no one calls themselves irish\america in the States

cue the anal retentive semantics on this forum "so there isnt one irishman in the whole country that calls themself an irish\american?" :pac:

MrFresh

TeaBagMania wrote: »

no one calls themselves irish\america in the States

That's a ridiculous claim. There are organizations, publications, buildings and sports teams that all use the term either in their name or description.

TeaBagMania

MrFresh wrote: »

That's a ridiculous claim. There are organizations, publications, buildings and sports teams that all use the term either in their name or description.

just like i said, right on cue :pac: