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What type of insulation for External wall ?

  • 04-06-2019 7:04pm
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 430 ✭✭


    Hi

    Just wondering what brand of insulation people would recommend for the external wall. Looking at Xtratherm, kingspan and Ballytherm. It must be 110ml and have a thermal Conductivity of 0.021 W/m.k.

    Ballytherm is the cheapest but not sure about it.

    Thanks


Comments

  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,145 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    Sounds like you will also be drylining? Would you consider keeping all insulation in the cavity?


  • Registered Users Posts: 430 ✭✭Bigbird1


    BryanF wrote: »
    Sounds like you will also be drylining? Would you consider keeping all insulation in the cavity?

    All the insulation is in the cavity??


  • Subscribers Posts: 41,942 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Xtratherm partial fill starts at 0.022


  • Registered Users Posts: 430 ✭✭Bigbird1


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    Xtratherm partial fill starts at 0.022

    Would 0.022 be sufficient? Is it the U value or the thermal Conductivity figure that's important or both ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,169 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Bigbird1 wrote: »
    Would 0.022 be sufficient? Is it the U value or the thermal Conductivity figure that's important or both ?

    Thermal conductivity is independent of thickness so will tell you how insulating the material is, but you need to calculate or look up the U value for a given thickness to determine if your wall performance target will be met.


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  • Subscribers Posts: 41,942 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Bigbird1 wrote: »
    Would 0.022 be sufficient? Is it the U value or the thermal Conductivity figure that's important or both ?

    You use the TC value to calculate the U value.

    The higher the TC value, the more thickness you need to reach the same U value.


  • Registered Users Posts: 430 ✭✭Bigbird1


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    You use the TC value to calculate the U value.

    The higher the TC value, the more thickness you need to reach the same U value.

    Ok thanks. So the spec I have on the BER is Xtratherm, 110ml, TC of 0.021. So on pricing other insulation manufacturers, they have the same size board, a lesser U value, but with a TC of 0.022. Would it be sufficient to go with this ?


  • Subscribers Posts: 41,942 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Bigbird1 wrote: »
    Ok thanks. So the spec I have on the BER is Xtratherm, 110ml, TC of 0.021. So on pricing other insulation manufacturers, they have the same size board, a lesser U value, but with a TC of 0.022. Would it be sufficient to go with this ?

    Theres very little difference between those to be honest... But you still need to check if you are meeting the levels you need to be regulation compliant

    For example quilted insulation would typically have a TC value of 0.04.... Which practically means that you need about 50% more thickness to meet the same U value.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,145 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    I’m surprised it’s 110mm PIR for your walls, what size house is it


  • Registered Users Posts: 430 ✭✭Bigbird1


    BryanF wrote: »
    I’m surprised it’s 110mm PIR for your walls, what size house is it

    Its 2300 sq foot. 150ml cavity.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 430 ✭✭Bigbird1


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    Theres very little difference between those to be honest... But you still need to check if you are meeting the levels you need to be regulation compliant

    For example quilted insulation would typically have a TC value of 0.04.... Which practically means that you need about 50% more thickness to meet the same U value.

    Any quick way of checking if I'm compliant. Does the guy that did up the BER have to calculate this again ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭Bonzo Delaney


    Bigbird1 wrote: »
    Its 2300 sq foot. 150ml cavity.
    Why isn't 150mm full fill cavity insulation speced


  • Subscribers Posts: 41,942 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Why isn't 150mm full fill cavity insulation speced

    Not required to meet minimum regulation


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