007 Mafia: GoldenWolf - GAME THREAD

Bounty Hunter

sKeith wrote: »

The only players who know this are the bad guys.
Nobody else can work this out yet.



Hi bad guy #1.


Are you just a goon or the role cop?

It would be dangerous to assume there is a role cop just because I can't read. Hope im not going to end up tunneling you again this game, You and Strawbs messed me up (well I messed myself up) last long game.

Now im off to chase the dragon...boat... It's Dragon Boat Festival here

Clarabel

sKeith wrote: »

Oh, someone pointed out a way you could know, and that would be you are exactly the motion detector.

l.

Someone? Someone in a backroom? Who is someone?

sKeith

Clarabel wrote: »

Someone? Someone in a backroom? Who is someone?

see post #50

Clarabel

Clarabel wrote: »

Someone? Someone in a backroom? Who is someone?

I see

LadySkunk

kitten_k wrote: »

Thanks sKeith but worries me that you figured out that he could be a RV and you posted that on the thread

Have to agree with this SK. I get you were using it as a “what are the odds” example but I wouldn’t be potentially outing RVs so soon just to get a point across. Could very well be that 1 in 50 times is now

sKeith

TheSkunk wrote: »

Have to agree with this SK. I get you were using it as a “what are the odds” example but I wouldn’t be potentially outing RVs so soon just to get a point across. Could very well be that 1 in 50 times is now

I think its higher than that.


0.5 * 0.2 * 1/17 = 0.00588


that's more like 1 in 170 or so.

Barney92

sKeith wrote: »

see post #50

At least I know one person is reading my posts.

Barney92

sKeith wrote: »

I think its higher than that.


0.5 * 0.2 * 1/17 = 0.00588


that's more like 1 in 170 or so.

Well if it were to be a slip then we'd be in column b so I don't think you'd multiply by 0.5.

TheValeyard

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

It would be dangerous to assume there is a role cop just because I can't read. Hope im not going to end up tunneling you again this game, You and Strawbs messed me up (well I messed myself up) last long game.

Now im off to chase the dragon...boat... It's Dragon Boat Festival here

What's a, where's a dragon boat festival?

LadySkunk

sKeith wrote: »

I think its higher than that.


0.5 * 0.2 * 1/17 = 0.00588


that's more like 1 in 170 or so.

Hey people win the lotto on higher odds :pac:

I get what you’re saying though, you don’t think there is a possibility of him being the motion detector and that’s why you said it.

All I’m saying is I wouldn’t be posting roles on thread this early.

sKeith

TheSkunk wrote: »

Hey people win the lotto on higher odds :pac:

I get what you’re saying though, you don’t think there is a possibility of him being the motion detector and that’s why you said it.

All I’m saying is I wouldn’t be posting roles on thread this early.

If bounty was the motion detector, he'd be pretty safe to come out as it.


The motion detector is just as likely to get a village killed than to catch mafia.


Lets say the mafia role copped a vanilla townie 'fred', and the motion detector came out shouting, I caught fred, he moved last night, he's a mafioso dude, believe me, i'm the motion detector, so we lynch fred, and he turns out to be vanilla town, so now we lynch the motion detector for killing fred.


Its not exactly a town friendly role and can be taken advantage off by the bad guys. Incorrect declarations can easily get to townies killed.

Barney92

Would they not be better off staying hidden? It could be a good role if the other good roles were accounted for (either alive or dead). That means that if they follow someone else and they do something that they must be a baddy. If the doctor and roleblocker are dead (2E for example), then the motion detector can only really detect wolves moving.

It says they can detect actions performed on or by a player, but not what they were. I've not played with the role before, but would they be told if an action was performed by the person they followed or if the action the was done to them? Or would they simply be told the person they followed was involved in an action (either performed by them or done to them)? If they're told whether the action was performed by them then the role could be used as a seer near the end, if still alive.

sKeith

Barney92 wrote: »

Would they not be better off staying hidden? It could be a good role if the other good roles were accounted for (either alive or dead). That means that if they follow someone else and they do something that they must be a baddy. If the doctor and roleblocker are dead (2E for example), then the motion detector can only really detect wolves moving.

It says they can detect actions performed on or by a player, but not what they were. I've not played with the role before, but would they be told if an action was performed by the person they followed or if the action the was done to them? Or would they simply be told the person they followed was involved in an action (either performed by them or done to them)? If they're told whether the action was performed by them then the role could be used as a seer near the end, if still alive.

Bolded becomes true only after the mafia role cop is dead as well as the tracker and the doctor.


They only detect motion. the person the are checking could be being tracked, being protected, being role copped by mafia. or they could be doctoring or tracking or role copping or munching.

Baggly

sKeith wrote: »

If bounty was the motion detector, he'd be pretty safe to come out as it.


The motion detector is just as likely to get a village killed than to catch mafia.


Lets say the mafia role copped a vanilla townie 'fred', and the motion detector came out shouting, I caught fred, he moved last night, he's a mafioso dude, believe me, i'm the motion detector, so we lynch fred, and he turns out to be vanilla town, so now we lynch the motion detector for killing fred.


Its not exactly a town friendly role and can be taken advantage off by the bad guys. Incorrect declarations can easily get to townies killed.

I follow your logic but dont agree with your conclusions.

MD can effectively clear themselves later in the game and form a core. In an isolated reveal like you have posited, they are largely useless; but there would be other ways to use the power to the villages benefit imo.

Barney92

sKeith wrote: »

Bolded becomes true only after the mafia role cop is dead as well as the tracker and the doctor.


They only detect motion. the person the are checking could be being tracked, being protected, being role copped by mafia. or they could be doctoring or tracking or role copping or munching.

Okay, so they are just told if the person they followed was doing an action or having an action being performed upon them, but they aren't told which?

sKeith

Barney92 wrote: »

Okay, so they are just told if the person they followed was doing an action or having an action being performed upon them, but they aren't told which?

They are just told, 'motion detected'.


And the player then has to figure out what scenarios exist where that can happen.

kitten_k

That role sounds like a hard one to play well

Barney92

sKeith wrote: »

They are just told, 'motion detected'.


And the player then has to figure out what scenarios exist where that can happen.

I see. Well if role cop and the two village roles are gone then it could be useful. Unlikely enough scenario I suppose, and even then they'd have to follow the wolf. Otherwise they'll be told motion detected about the person who is being munched.

kitten_k

Gone very quiet in here. By my reckoning there are still 5 people to post but they may not be aware the game has started yet.

TheValeyard

kitten_k wrote: »

That role sounds like a hard one to play well

It could also come back to bite you in the ass.

sKeith

kitten_k wrote: »

Thanks sKeith but worries me that you figured out that he could be a RV and you posted that on the thread

kitten_k wrote: »

Gone very quiet in here. By my reckoning there are still 5 people to post but they may not be aware the game has started yet.

Decided to only speculate about roles in my BR since i was scolded for doing that on the main thread.

kitten_k

You weren't scolded! It was just pointed out that you should be more careful about revealing possible roled players - not that you cannot discuss the roles.

LadySkunk

sKeith wrote: »

Decided to only speculate about roles in my BR since i was scolded for doing that on the main thread.

Aww don’t be like that SK, no offence was meant. By all means speculate, just best holding off on RVs for awhile

Clarabel

Which BR is that then?

tritium

Afternoon all

sKeith wrote: »

Night 0 on choc chip, they town.

N0

NO role cop specified for village

NOt villiagery play

Dr No

VOTE skeith

Whiplashy

Hi everyone. I’m not totally sure I get the whole Matrix thing. Talk about complicated. I’m also stumped by the motion detector possibility. If we have one I think a lot of there “info” will be guess work so don’t think it will actually benefit us. I’m village btw. Just thought I’d slip that in there before someone *cough*dandy*cough* starts a ridiculous wagon on the basis that I’m a few hours late to a soft opening

TheValeyard

tritium wrote: »

Afternoon all



N0

NO role cop specified for village

NOt villiagery play

Dr No

VOTE skeith

So....you're saying......we need to shoot Baggly?

TheValeyard

I'm a serious note, are there tasks? May have missed that.

TheValeyard

On!!!!!!


I am not a serious note...

Baggly

Im not sure of what to make of all this, but im sensing someone wants me shot.

tritium

Baggly wrote: »

I follow your logic but dont agree with your conclusions.

MD can effectively clear themselves later in the game and form a core. In an isolated reveal like you have posited, they are largely useless; but there would be other ways to use the power to the villages benefit imo.

This. Town reveals this early aren’t good play. With auto priest role claims at the right time are a key village tool

kitten_k

What give you that impression Baggly

Barney92

TheValeyard wrote: »

On!!!!!!


I am not a serious note...

fixXxer

w.shoot @ Baggly

Lot's of eager players even this early. Nice to see it. Not sure what to make of it.

TheValeyard

Baggly wrote: »

Im not sure of what to make of all this, but im sensing someone wants me shot.

Nonsense! Who'd want that.

TheValeyard

fixxxer wrote: »

w.shoot @ Baggly

Lot's of eager players even this early. Nice to see it. Not sure what to make of it.

Yay!!

tritium

TheValeyard wrote: »

So....you're saying......we need to shoot Baggly?

Well if you have bullets to spare I’m sure we can find a use for them over the next few days

(pats vale down nervously- vale with a gun might be scary to everyone)

Baggly

If he had a gun, id be shot by now.

tritium

Baggly wrote: »

Im not sure of what to make of all this, but im sensing someone wants me shot.

Funny you say that but a few people are mentioning it alright....

Bounty Hunter

TheValeyard wrote: »

What's a, where's a dragon boat festival?

In Taiwan where I am. missed most of it today but it's still happening tomorrow and Sunday.

sKeith wrote: »

Decided to only speculate about roles in my BR since i was scolded for doing that on the main thread.

Very open about your BR there SK.


Think I've missed the reason / joke that'd explain why everyone wants old bagpuss shot

kitten_k

Baggly wrote: »

If he had a gun, id be shot by now.

If he is the vig, you are safe until N2 as I don't think he can shoot until then

tritium

Baggly wrote: »

If he had a gun, id be shot by now.

Not true......


... he’d need a gun too

(With a nod to Luther for exceptions)

tritium

tritium wrote: »

Not true......


... he’d need a gun too

(With a nod to Luther for exceptions)

Bullets!!!

He’d need bullets too!!


Punchline is key Trit, be sure not to balls it up, dooh!

TheValeyard

Bullets you say.

I prefer old school musket and I'll melt my own iron ball bearings.

tritium

TheValeyard wrote: »

Bullets you say.

I prefer old school musket and I'll melt my own iron ball bearings.

@baggley, he says you have till dawn....

Baggly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubgW1Pdn1-4

TheValeyard

tritium wrote: »

@baggley, he says you have till dawn....

It would be impolite to shoot anyone until at least after breakfast.

Dublinandy2

It's my first visit. I'm very confused. I finish work in an hour for the weekend so will reread then but can someone talk to me like I'm a 5 year old with a simple explanation?

Choc Chip

Dublinandy2 wrote: »

It's my first visit. I'm very confused. I finish work in an hour for the weekend so will reread then but can someone talk to me like I'm a 5 year old with a simple explanation?

Can you figure out what's going on then make me an infographic?

sKeith

Dublinandy2 wrote: »

It's my first visit. I'm very confused. I finish work in an hour for the weekend so will reread then but can someone talk to me like I'm a 5 year old with a simple explanation?

what exactly are you having difficulties understanding and that need to be explained betterer?