Rock on, Rockall! (it's back)

Silent Running

Silent Running wrote: »

This could lead to an interesting conversation if Brexit goes badly and the Scots want to break away and rejoin the EU. The first words from the EU might be: So, Rockall, eh?

The UK hasn't even got a trade deal post the withdrawal agreement. If Rockhall wasn't going to be an issue before it is now. Maybe, the Scots should stay under English Rule, they may have forgotten how to do politics.

blinding

Deleted User wrote: »

The UK hasn't even got a trade deal post the withdrawal agreement. If Rockhall wasn't going to be an issue before it is now. Maybe, the Scots should stay under English Rule, they may have forgotten how to do politics.

Never let somebody else run your country . You never know when you may have to run it for yourself .

AllGunsBlazing

janfebmar wrote: »

That reminds me, didn't some SAS man ledge himself on top of the rock a good few decades ago and stay there a few months, to claim it for Britain? Tough as nuts.

Dumb as fvck,. more like.

Atlantic Dawn

I'd imagine the next move will be a fleet of Irish trawlers heading out there this weekend.

blinding

blinding wrote: »

Never let somebody else run your country . You never know when you may have to run it for yourself .

True. Took us a while after we got rid of the undue influence of the Catholic Church.

Richard Hillman

They're not even a country. It's like Wexford County Council threatening France. Who will they send, the Scottish police?

Call their bluff. Tell them to get back in their box. Or maybe the SNP are trying to rile up Scottish Nationalism?

Thinkingaboutit

whisky_galore wrote: »

We can fire a few missiles, like North Korea.

Oh wait, we don't have any.

Scotland better be careful. Our fleet of combat fighter jets have already been scrambled. :pac:

Odelay

Thinkingaboutit wrote: »

Scotland better be careful. Our fleet of combat fighter jets have already been scrambled. :pac:

They’re filling them up with a fresh tank of diesel juice as we speak.

recedite

janfebmar wrote: »

That reminds me, didn't some SAS man ledge himself on top of the rock a good few decades ago and stay there a few months, to claim it for Britain? Tough as nuts.

AllGunsBlazing wrote: »

Dumb as fvck,. more like.

Maybe both of the above?
Dramatic footage here on his website of him leaping out of a rubber dinghy onto Rockall, then getting washed into the sea by a huge wave. The boat meanwhile has been punctured, because he was wearing climbing crampons.


Also, he may have a secret weapon we can use to defeat Nessie; a mechanical whale. Maybe the Irish govt. could hire him as a military advisor for this upcoming war?

After all, he is already offering consultancy services and he is originally Irish. The back story is not exactly clear, but I think some industrial school or orphanage had him farmed out as a slave labourer, before he fled to England.
If we apologise, he might come back.

Conchir

Saw this on the RTE news story. “The rocky outcrop lies around 230 nautical miles northwest of Donegal and 240 miles west of Scotland.”

230 nautical miles is over 260 miles. A harmless bit of journalism, or intentionally misleading?

Patser

Can't believe all these posters, who seem genuinely worried the Scots will use the Loch Ness Monster?!

Seriously!

Cop on, Loch Ness is freshwater, he'd be useless in a sea battle.

What we really need to concentrate on is getting the Puffins onside. Those little vicious bastar ds will give us the air power edge.

recedite

Conchir wrote: »

A harmless bit of journalism, or intentionally misleading?

The latter, I would say.

Fake News at its worst.

odyssey06

I don't fancy our chances, I think Mary Lou could hold Sturgeon in check but if Arlene Foster enters the fray it's all over.
FG send Maria Bailey as reinforcement but she falls getting out of the helicopter and sues.

recedite

Patser wrote: »

Cop on, Loch Ness is freshwater, he'd be useless in a sea battle.

What we really need to concentrate on is getting the Puffins onside. Those little vicious bastar ds will give us the air power edge.

Pretty sure Nessie is like a salmon. He will just need a few days to adapt to the saltiness. They possibly have him in the Clyde estuary at this very moment.


You wouldn't want to rely on those little pufters with their rainbow beaks. Pacifists, the whole lot of them.

odyssey06

recedite wrote: »

You wouldn't want to rely on those little pufters with their rainbow beaks. Pacifists, the whole lot of them.

Nah, their fighting days are behind them. All alcos since they got a lifetime supply of booze for Guinness ad appearances.

recedite

odyssey06 wrote: »

I don't fancy our chances, I think Mary Lou could hold Sturgeon in check

On land Mary Lou has the weight advantage, but only a true whale can beat a sturgeon in the water.

Blinky Plebum

It should have no relevance regarding any fishing rights etc because it is a ****ing rock and should have no relevance regarding any claims of sovereignty over it.

You can't claim sovereignty over something that is completely uninhabitable.

Del.Monte

The man from the Donegal Catch Ad could be a clincher for Ireland - they have his idea on file - in a filing cabinet!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=303VMR0sRRw

Nobelium

Richard Hillman wrote: »

They're not even a country. It's like Wexford County Council threatening France. Who will they send, the Scottish police?

Call their bluff. Tell them to get back in their box. Or maybe the SNP are trying to rile up Scottish Nationalism?

In reality, Scotland dwarf Ireland in every category.

realdanbreen

Well that's me finished with everything Scottish. Starting with. ...ahem. ...give me a minute. ...ahem. .....well I'm not wearing tartan ever again!

Del.Monte

"Flower of Scotland" is better than "Ireland's Call" - anything else?

odyssey06

realdanbreen wrote: »

Well that's me finished with everything Scottish. Starting with. ...ahem. ...give me a minute. ...ahem. .....well I'm not wearing tartan ever again!

Hmmm... ye can feck off if you think I'm pouring my Scotch down the drain for a lump of rock in the middle of nowhere!

blinding

A People that cannot ‘ Fight “ their Way out of the British Union in a Free Referendum do not deserve to be called a Nation or a People .

After there failure to take their own Independence they should have been called Northern England / Northern Britain .

They are not a Nation or a National People .

odyssey06

Del.Monte wrote: »

"Flower of Scotland" is better than "Ireland's Call" - anything else?

Glenlivet, Glenfiddich, Glen Goyne, Jura, Talisker, Macallan, Bowmore, Highland Park, Laphroaig, Springbank, Speyburn... impressive first 11 for the Scotch there.

realdanbreen

Del.Monte wrote: »

"Flower of Scotland" is better than "Ireland's Call" - anything else?

Flower of Scotland is only for pansies@

janfebmar

Blinky Plebum wrote: »

You can't claim sovereignty over something that is completely uninhabitable.

A SAS man was able to live on it for a few months, as far as I remember.

Psychlops

The Brits actually stationed Troops there too...

https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/from-the-archive-blog/2013/may/28/rockall-nick-hanckock-archive

Patser

odyssey06 wrote: »

Nah, their fighting days are behind them. All alcos since they got a lifetime supply of booze for Guinness ad appearances.

Naval Toucans never forget their true calling - especially if we threaten to cut off their Guinness supply- what'll the Scots offer them? Tennants- fairly sure the Geneva convention lists Tennants under war crimes.

boetstark

bob mcbob wrote: »

Ahem.

https://www2.gov.scot/Topics/marine/Compliance/resources/Vessels

Britain's sea fisheries have been protected and controlled by the authority of Parliament for nearly 200 years, but in 1882 responsibility for protecting Scottish waters was given to the Fishery Board for Scotland.

The first vessel that the Board took over was a former Royal Navy sailing cutter "Vigilant", which had worked for some years on protection tasks. Over the years, new ships were added to the fishery protection fleet and responsibility for managing the task of fishery protection was transferred at different times to various Government bodies, including the Scottish Fisheries Protection Agency and now Marine Scotland Compliance.

Currently, Marine Scotland Compliance has three ships in its fleet of Marine Protection Vessels (MPVs):

MPV Minna

MPV Minna was built at Ferguson's Shipyard, Port Glasgow and was launched in 2003. She is 42 metres in length and has a gross tonnage of 781. She has a crew of 15, a top speed of 14 knots and is used mainly for inshore enforcement tasks.

MPV Jura

MPV Jura was built at Ferguson's Shipyard, Port Glasgow. She was launched in 2005 and entered service in March 2006. Currently the largest vessel in the fleet - at 1 tonne heavier than the MPV Hirta - she is 84 metres in length and has a gross tonnage of 2,181. She has a crew of 17, a top speed of 18 knots and is used mainly for offshore enforcement tasks.

MPV Hirta

MPV Hirta is the newest of our ships and is the same type of ship as the FPV Jura. Built at the Remontowa Yard in Gdansk, Poland she entered service in 2008. She is 84 metres in length and has a gross tonnage of 2,181. She has a crew of 17, a top speed of 18 knots and is used mainly for offshore enforcement tasks.

Plus Google HMNB Clyde and see what the Scottish Government absolutely have at their disposal. I think for what its worth GB is itchy to give Ireland a slap , considering Irish ministers interference over Brexit

Patser

janfebmar wrote: »

A SAS man was able to live on it for a few months, as far as I remember.

But according to wikipedia he was Irish born, so we claim him as a double agent.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockall

odyssey06

Patser wrote: »

Naval Toucans never forget their true calling - especially if we threaten to cut off their Guinness supply- what'll the Scots offer them? Tennants- fairly sure the Geneva convention lists Tennants under war crimes.

All the whisky they can drink!

archer22

blinding wrote: »

A People that cannot ‘ Fight “ their Way out of the British Union in a Free Referendum do not deserve to be called a Nation or a People .

After there failure to take their own Independence they should have been called Northern England / Northern Britain .

They are not a Nation or a National People .

Actually the Scots were never forced into the union...there was only hundreds of years of back and forth invasions between England and Scotland.
England invading Scotland, Scotland invading England and so on over and over.

Eventually it was sorted when a Scottish king became king of England...so in that sense it was actually the Scots who took over England.

The history between Scotland and England is very different to the history between Ireland and England.
Also the English and Scots shared the same religion, which bonded them closer.

archer22

archer22 wrote: »

Actually the Scots were never forced into the union...there was only hundreds of years of back and forth invasions between England and Scotland.
England invading Scotland, Scotland invading England and so on over and over.

Eventually it was sorted when a Scottish king became king of England...so in that sense it was actually the Scots who took over England.

The history between Scotland and England is very different to the history between Ireland and England.
Also the English and Scots shared the same religion, which bonded them closer.

Scotland was broke due to its American misadventures and needed bailing out.

boetstark

boetstark wrote: »

Plus Google HMNB Clyde and see what the Scottish Government absolutely have at their disposal. I think for what its worth GB is itchy to give Ireland a slap , considering Irish ministers interference over Brexit

A cornered rat comes to mind...

Also, we arrested a couple of Nordy fishermen lately. Those that once purported to rule the waves will not have liked that.

Church on Tuesday

recedite wrote: »

Its more or less 50;50, until the Scots roll out the Loch Ness Monster.
At that point, all the Irish fish change sides.

Agreed, look if the Scots deploy oul Nessie and if you are an Irish fish then you better go turncoat lest ye be gobbled up...

Nobelium

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

Agreed, look if the Scots deploy oul Nessie and if you are an Irish fish then you better go turncoat lest ye be gobbled up...

You also need to factor in the Scots have Iron Bru

Hamsterchops

Patser wrote: »

But according to wikipedia he was Irish born, so we claim him as a double agent.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockall

i can't find it, was he born in Howth ???

Nobelium

Hamsterchops wrote: »

i can't find it, was he born in Howth ???

Indeed, it hardly could be classed as Ireland. Another territorial dispute.

Church on Tuesday

Nobelium wrote: »

You also need to factor in the Scots have Iron Bru

We may as well give up now then so

boetstark

[Deleted User] wrote: »

A cornered rat comes to mind...

Also, we arrested a couple of Nordy fishermen lately. Those that once purported to rule the waves will not have liked that.

A fly on an elephant's arse springs to mind ðŸ˜

boetstark

boetstark wrote: »

A fly on an elephant's arse springs to mind ðŸ˜

Calling the EU an elephant is simply gauche :P

AMKC

The Scottish want ''Rockall'' back. So should we let them have it or so we fight for it for our hard working fishermen and women?

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2019/0608/1054211-rockall-fishing/

Pawwed Rig

They already own it but I'm in if we are invading

Blueshoe

Nobody

Balanadan

We should declare a jihad against Scotland if they threaten our country.

Wheeliebin30

But what about da homeless?

Alrigghtythen

Balanadan wrote: »

We should declare high jnyx against Scotland if they threaten our country.

Fixed that for you

mikemac2

I was going to call for a boycott of irn-bru and battered mars bars but that already exists

SeaFields

We're going to invade and Scotland will be waiting for us but just as England come to help Scotland we join with Scotland and both fight the English!

I seen it in a film.

Rubberchikken

people have gone to war for less.

count me in.


btw...what rock??