Woman's World Cup.

decky1

It's on TG4 with commentary in Irish WTF?:rolleyes::eek:

Yeah.. everyone knows women can't play football..

Sonny noggs

How does it compare to ‘those’ Hunky Dory adverts?

Andrew00

We couldn't care less about this tournament. Media pushing it in our faces

Timberrrrrrrr

Andrew00 wrote: »

We couldn't care less about this tournament. Media pushing it in our faces

Speak for yourself.

Sonny noggs

Andrew00 wrote: »

We couldn't care less about this tournament. Media pushing it in our faces

Y, hard to miss on BBC sport website. Looking for equal pay, good luck with that.

Feisar

Sonny noggs wrote: »

Y, hard to miss on BBC sport website. Looking for equal pay, good luck with that.

Looking for equal pay!?! On what basis?

Tikki Wang Wang

I prefer to watch a lass beat the tits off another lass. G’wan the Katie !

Sonny noggs

Feisar wrote: »

Looking for equal pay!?! On what basis?

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/48535933

Feisar

Sonny noggs wrote: »

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/48535933

Cheers.

When they have the same draw as their male counterparts. The money is based on popularity. Are they too dense to see that?

Bobblehats

And Ronalda lifts the european cupette

odyssey06

The viewing figures for this on BBC and TG4 v previous show in slot will be interesting.

Sonny noggs

Feisar wrote: »

Cheers.

When they have the same draw as their male counterparts. The money is based on popularity. Are they too dense to see that?

Good question

Bobblehats

Bobblehats wrote: »

And Ronalda lifts the european cupette

Probably wouldn't be a cup..
Probably something more phallic..

Pissartist

I watched eng vs Scotland it was a good game

biko

decky1 wrote: »

Woman's World Cup.

Is it just one woman competing?

Woke Hogan

How is the women's world cup supposed to gain any popularity if they don't show it on television?

ill avoid the debate about pushing coverage ahead of demand and the case for equal pay

i will watch the games if and when i get the chance, some very good matches four years ago

the standard is increasing rapidly and i think its worth encouraging. my niece is twelve and football mad (playing not watching) and its great to see

the keepers are still crap tho. would be interesting to see if there's a physiological basis for why that should be tbh

Feisar

Deleted User wrote: »

ill avoid the debate about pushing coverage ahead of demand and the case for equal pay

i will watch the games if and when i get the chance, some very good matches four years ago

the standard is increasing rapidly and i think its worth encouraging. my niece is twelve and football mad (playing not watching) and its great to see

the keepers are still crap tho. would be interesting to see if there's a physiological basis for why that should be tbh

I was thinking about this and comparatively how the men's game is driven down our necks.

Feisar

Feisar wrote: »

I was thinking about this and comparatively how the men's game is driven down our necks.

i dunno about that

id say viewing figures justify pretty much any game shown on terrestrial tv, maybe the very odd world cup non-event aside

eviltwin

Not a fan of football in general so I won't be watching but there is enough room on tv to show the matches for those who want to see them. If you don't like it, don't watch much the same we don't watch 90% of the content on our tv screens.

Sonny noggs

Feisar wrote: »

I was thinking about this and comparatively how the men's game is driven down our necks.

The multi billion euro TV deals, massive sponsorships, shirt deals and new stadiums / stands are driven by the demand for the men’s game. The deals wouldn’t be renewed if the demand wasn’t there.

Bobblehats

I remember that USA v Japan final last time out where the Loyd girl wrapped up her hat trick with a chip from the halfway line. Who does that!

Only real problem women’s equivalent getting equal media coverage now is when you think they’re talking about the blokes for a moment, not good.

Maybe if they let them take off their tops when they scored..

Sonny noggs

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Maybe if they let them take off their tops when they scored..

Let them? Or make them?

stockshares

decky1 wrote: »

It's on TG4 with commentary in Irish WTF?:rolleyes::eek:

Disgraceful putting it on Tg4 with commentary in Irish. An exception should have been made and commentary allowed in English. It was Disrespectful to Women players and for all viewers.

Impossible to enjoy a match being forced to listen to commentary in Irish. The same applies to Gaelic Football and Hurling matches. They are trying to coerce people to speak Irish by showing games on Tg4. Very mean spirited.

Also Rte pretend to be all about equality but they are phoneys. They have Women pundits for Soccer and Gaa now but when they actually need to show respect for Women's Sport they throw it on Tg4 in Irish.

They could have showed the games on Rte Now in English but that probably didn't occur to them.

SirGerryAdams

Sonny noggs wrote: »

Y, hard to miss on BBC sport website. Looking for equal pay, good luck with that.

This whole equal pay thing is absolutely ****e regarding womens sports. Prize money is related to sponsorship, attendances, rights etc.

That's why the winner of Wimbledon will get 2m and the winner of the the irish tennis championship will probably get a pack of wine gums.

Although the wimbledon example is poor because the women only have to win 2 sets while men have to win 3 yet they get the same prize money. So much for equal pay for equal work eh? :rolleyes:

I heard on the radio a couple weeks back about katie taylor and the money for her title fight. The guest they had on was saying she won't make as much money as Anthony Joshua (fighting for heavyweight title). She said something like "like even Anthony Joshua, she won't even make as much as him even though she's more important...even like...Conor McGregor, she won't make more than him"

Like...wtf! Saying she's more important? Acting like she should make more than McGregor?

_blaaz

stockshares wrote: »

Disgraceful putting it on Tg4 with commentary in Irish. An exception should have been made and commentary allowed in English. It was Disrespectful to Women players and for all viewers.

Impossible to enjoy a match being forced to listen to commentary in Irish. The same applies to Gaelic Football and Hurling matches. They are trying to coerce people to speak Irish by showing games on Tg4. Very mean spirited.

Also Rte pretend to be all about equality but they are phoneys. They have Women pundits for Soccer and Gaa now but when they actually need to show respect for Women's Sport they throw it on Tg4 in Irish.

They could have showed the games on Rte Now in English but that probably didn't occur to them.

They do show matches on rte

Silentcorner

It's hard explaining this one to the entitlement brigade, it may be because they cannot critically analyse a topic or it could be because they feel if they keep screaming loud enough they'll get more...

The mad thing is, if women attended women's sports events like men attend men's sport, the women would get paid a lot more than men on account of the huge difference in puchasing power between men and women...it would be a little like the huge gender pay gap in the modelling industry.

But women do not attend women's sports...nothing chauvanist about it, no misogyny, women do not care enough about it, if they have a problem, the should completely separate from FIFA, and build their own organisation, stadiums, competitions, but we all know that won't happen!

*I think it is great to see womens sport on tv, should be more of it!

nokia99999

Silentcorner wrote: »

It's hard explaining this one to the entitlement brigade, it may be because they cannot critically analyse a topic or it could be because they feel if they keep screaming loud enough they'll get more...

The mad thing is, if women attended women's sports events like men attend men's sport, the women would get paid a lot more than men on account of the huge difference in puchasing power between men and women...it would be a little like the huge gender pay gap in the modelling industry.

But women do not attend women's sports...nothing chauvanist about it, no misogyny, women do not care enough about it, if they have a problem, the should completely separate from FIFA, and build their own organisation, stadiums, competitions, but we all know that won't happen!

*I think it is great to see womens sport on tv, should be more of it!

Pff is it not easier to complain about grid girls and get them sacked and out of a job.

stockshares

_blaaz wrote: »

They do show matches on rte

Not the Womens games today. A Major Tournament!

They also don't seem to realise that it's not just Irish people who live here and who would be interested in the matches.

Expecting people from abroad to sit through commentary in Irish is narrow minded and petty.

If Brazil played Argentina in the men's World cup and it was on TG4 there would be uproar.

Btw I've nothing against TG4 as a station . They have good documentaries and serve a purpose. Sport should not be used though to please others agenda.

SirGerryAdams

Silentcorner wrote: »

It's hard explaining this one to the entitlement brigade, it may be because they cannot critically analyse a topic or it could be because they feel if they keep screaming loud enough they'll get more...

The mad thing is, if women attended women's sports events like men attend men's sport, the women would get paid a lot more than men on account of the huge difference in puchasing power between men and women...it would be a little like the huge gender pay gap in the modelling industry.

But women do not attend women's sports...nothing chauvanist about it, no misogyny, women do not care enough about it, if they have a problem, the should completely separate from FIFA, and build their own organisation, stadiums, competitions, but we all know that won't happen!

*I think it is great to see womens sport on tv, should be more of it!

They fudge the numbers too. Every year there's a new attendance record for te womens final in the gaa. What they fail to mention is that they give out tickets for free and bus up a load of kids from local clubs for the day out in croker. The atmosphere is just a bunch of kids screeching.

_blaaz

stockshares wrote: »

Not the Womens games today. A Major Tournament!

They also don't seem to realise that it's not just Irish people who live here and would be interested in the matches.

Expecting people from abroad to sit through commentary in Irish is petty.

This is because its sunday and hurling is on today


Deffo seen some games on yesterday on rte 2

nokia99999

SirGerryAdams wrote: »

They fudge the numbers too. Every year there's a new attendance record for te womens final in the gaa. What they fail to mention is that they give out tickets for free and bus up a load of kids from local clubs for the day out in croker. The atmosphere is just a bunch of kids screeching.

Is that why the dub over the crowds with wembley levels of cheering ?

stockshares

_blaaz wrote: »

This is because its sunday and hurling is on today


Deffo seen some games on yesterday on rte 2

I know they clashed with Hurling and that there were games shown yesterrday. They should have put the World Cup games today on Rte 1 or Rte Now in English.

Or

Put hurling on Tg4. They have no problem putting it on Tg4 for the League in Winter.

It came to a choice between Hurling and the Women's World Cup for Prime time Rte 2 slot and they chose Hurling.

Btw they are only showing hurling cos they thought it would be popular due to last year's championship but all games apart from Galway v Kilkenny have turned out one sided.

Rte are Bandwagon jumpers who no ****all about sport

Blinky Plebum

stockshares wrote: »

Disgraceful putting it on Tg4 with commentary in Irish. An exception should have been made and commentary allowed in English. It was Disrespectful to Women players and for all viewers.

Impossible to enjoy a match being forced to listen to commentary in Irish. The same applies to Gaelic Football and Hurling matches. They are trying to coerce people to speak Irish by showing games on Tg4. Very mean spirited.

Also Rte pretend to be all about equality but they are phoneys. They have Women pundits for Soccer and Gaa now but when they actually need to show respect for Women's Sport they throw it on Tg4 in Irish.

They could have showed the games on Rte Now in English but that probably didn't occur to them.

It is an Irish Language station so broadcasting in Irish on the station is to be expected.

TG4 purchased the rights and obviously RTE weren't interested enough because if they were they could easily outbid them.

Junkyard Tom

A lot of football/soccer fans aren't actually fans of the sport itself - they're quite often dimwits who are drawn to the glamour of the professional game. There wouldn't be much difference between soccer glam-fans and watchers of the Kardashians if you scratch the surface.

You know who are actual fans of soccer/football/sport? The lads who wouldn't miss their game of five-a-side regardless of whether it's pissing the rain on a baltic winter's night after a long day at work. I know guys who drive 20 miles and get babysitters in so they can get their hour of kick-a-about, proper lovers of the game.

Blinky Plebum

SirGerryAdams wrote: »

They fudge the numbers too. Every year there's a new attendance record for te womens final in the gaa. What they fail to mention is that they give out tickets for free and bus up a load of kids from local clubs for the day out in croker. The atmosphere is just a bunch of kids screeching.

They don't fail to mention it at all, everyone ****ing knows they give out tickets to schools and clubs, it's a great idea and should be happening more often in sport in general in order to get kids interested in sport.

jam_mac_jam

Great that it's on. Hopefully it increases the interest in women's sport especially important for young girls who don't tend to participate as much in sport as men. Good luck to them.

sonofenoch

It's an appalling standard no matter what anyone tries telling me.......there are other examples of 'womens' sports both team and individual that have made that crossover to be excellent viewing in their own right without a need for making comparison even surpassing male events in instances, the obvious being athletics and tennis and other team sports such a volleyball, field hockey and even rugby

Soccer I would put alongside combat sports be it boxing or mma .......not for me, not on a serious level

SirGerryAdams

Blinky Plebum wrote: »

They don't fail to mention it at all, everyone ****ing knows they give out tickets to schools and clubs, it's a great idea and should be happening more often in sport in general in order to get kids interested in sport.

Claiming interest is so big because you've given out thousands of tickets is pure lies. No doubt they try and use it to look for more money too.

Del2005

sugarman wrote: »

Thats not really the point tho.. RTE have spent money big on content that people have little to no interest in that will draw low viewing figures to push their agenda.

For a company thats financially struggling with major cuts and loss of other sports content across the board it's not good enough. Ive nothing against women's football, it's juat a bad business decision.

They've lost the rights to the Rugby World Cup to Virgin and Test matches to Eir. They've lost their coverage of friendly soccer internationals to Sky and Eir and failed to gain rights to our own Nation's League qualifiers. Our under 21 qualifiers, again, lost to Eir. Their Champions League Coverage, scaled back dramatically through loss of rights to Virgin. Same for their Olympic coverage. Certain GAA rights lost to Sky, our own games! Not to mention their rather poor coverage of the LOI.

Theres far better ways they could have spent that money.

Maybe it was the only sport they could afford, so they are pushing it hard to try to get advertising money.

Blinky Plebum

I tuned into the BBC for the first match of the tounament and as usual with women's sports coverage it seems impossible for it to be covered without shoving a feminist agenda down our necks , about ten minutes in to the broadcast and I had to endure Hope Solo trying to lay a guilt trip on men with a rant about she hopes people give more respect to women players without maybe taking into account that you don't have to like something if you don't want to. I've tuned in I don't need to suffer through an implication I'm sexist because I watch more of the mens game than the womens game.The vast majority of people who watch womens part are men so it seem odd to continually be indirectly attacking your core audience. Nobody ever seems to criticize women for not watching enough womens sport when that is teh real issue womens sport faces.

I posted the below on the radio forum a few weeks ago and unfortunately I was proven to be correct once again.

Womens sports coverage is tedious to listen to largely because it gets patronized by the media and not treated as simply a sporting event , they have to shoehorn the feminist agenda into as well and therefore it alienates whoever might be interested in the sport because people who are properly interested in sport are interested in sport and don't care about any political stuff attached to it.

Every single female sports person when covered by the media is called an inspiration and what a great role model they are for young girls, male sports stars don't have to put up with that crap and they simply get dealt with on their merits as top quality sports people.

The day womens sport will have truly moved forward is the day the media starts to treat it like a sport and not in the fawning patronizing manner they treat every single womens sport these days. Womens sports talk would be so much more enjoyable if it was simply treated like a sport and analysed on it's merits but that rarely happens in the media.

stockshares

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

A lot of football/soccer fans aren't actually fans of the sport itself - they're quite often dimwits who are drawn to the glamour of the professional game. There wouldn't be much difference between soccer glam-fans and watchers of the Kardashians if you scratch the surface.

You know who are actual fans of soccer/football/sport? The lads who wouldn't miss their game of five-a-side regardless of whether it's pissing the rain on a baltic winter's night after a long day at work. I know guys who drive 20 miles and get babysitters in so they can get their hour of kick-a-about, proper lovers of the game.

Particularly true for fans of the EPL. Jersey wearing gob****es who'd fall over a football if they tried to kick it

stockshares

sonofenoch wrote: »

It's an appalling standard no matter what anyone tries telling me.......there are other examples of 'womens' sports both team and individual that have made that crossover to be excellent viewing in their own right without a need for making comparison even surpassing male events in instances, the obvious being athletics and tennis and other team sports such a volleyball, field hockey and even rugby

Soccer I would put alongside combat sports be it boxing or mma .......not for me, not on a serious level

Watch Japan on Friday. Youl change your mind.

Its a great competition that gives encouragement to Girls/Women throughout the World to play sport.

People are raving about Ireland's performance against Denmark. It's only good in comparison to Trappstoni and O Neil's reigns. The football overall is woejus

There's more imagination and wit in some of the Women's teams.

Feisar

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

A lot of football/soccer fans aren't actually fans of the sport itself - they're quite often dimwits who are drawn to the glamour of the professional game. There wouldn't be much difference between soccer glam-fans and watchers of the Kardashians if you scratch the surface.

You know who are actual fans of soccer/football/sport? The lads who wouldn't miss their game of five-a-side regardless of whether it's pissing the rain on a baltic winter's night after a long day at work. I know guys who drive 20 miles and get babysitters in so they can get their hour of kick-a-about, proper lovers of the game.

I think following something or having an interest is very different to doing. A mate of mine big into cycling is off on a two week cycle around Spain. He couldn't tell you who won the Tour De France last year.
People collect stamps that have never delivered a letter. Are they proper stamp fans?

People do different things for different reasons. Lads down the pub in jerseys watching a game supping pints is inane in my opinion but I've no skin in the game, whatever floats yer boat.

Richard Hillman

I usually watch the Euros and World Cup, plus the odd Ireland match if its on TV. I enjoy the more open style of play in the women's game.

But

I haven't been able to bring myself to watching this so far. The coverage around it is insufferable I just want to watch a sporting event not listen to agenda's. I can watch women's tennis and admire great champions and great athleticism. Women's hockey, the same. This is just a constant political agenda. It won't do the game any favours.

dxhound2005

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

A lot of football/soccer fans aren't actually fans of the sport itself - they're quite often dimwits who are drawn to the glamour of the professional game. There wouldn't be much difference between soccer glam-fans and watchers of the Kardashians if you scratch the surface.

I think you just made up that stuff in your head.

Blinky Plebum

dxhound2005 wrote: »

I think you just made up that stuff in your head.

In fairness there are some soccer fans that seem to be more interested in the soap opera attached to the sport rather than the sport itself.

Richard Hillman

dxhound2005 wrote: »

I think you just made up that stuff in your head.

TBH I think there are a lot of football fans that don't even like football and are just drawn towards the tribalism. They think they like football but they hate every other team, every other player and everything that doesn't involve their team is either micky mouse or overrated.

Del2005

stockshares wrote: »

Watch Japan on Friday. Youl change your mind.

Its a great competition that gives encouragement to Girls/Women throughout the World to play sport.

People are raving about Ireland's performance against Denmark. It's only good in comparison to Trappstoni and O Neil's reigns. The football overall is woejus

There's more imagination and wit in some of the Women's teams.

Yet the current world champions got beaten by a club team of boys.