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  • 11-06-2019 12:51am
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭


    I see Ulster BAnk are now charging you €2 a month Maintenance fee even though we bailed them out, regardless even if you have €3000,

    My account is mainly direct debits and some wired lodgements

    Just wondering if there are any banks out there that don’t have these charges or am I better of staying with them even though I’m down €24 a year


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  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,328 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    torrevieja wrote: »
    I see Ulster BAnk are now charging you €2 a month Maintenance fee even though we bailed them out

    No we didn't. Ulster Bank were recapitalised through an injection of cash from their parent, Royal Bank of Scotland. RBS in turn were bailed out by the British taxpayers. Ulster Bank didn't get any money from the Irish government.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭torrevieja


    Zaph wrote: »
    No we didn't. Ulster Bank were recapitalised through an injection of cash from their parent, Royal Bank of Scotland. RBS in turn were bailed out by the British taxpayers. Ulster Bank didn't get any money from the Irish government.

    Ok but They were still bailed out by taxpayers


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,328 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    torrevieja wrote: »
    Ok but They were still bailed out by taxpayers

    British ones, so why should that make any difference to which Irish bank you choose?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,384 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭Qrt


    EBS? very basic I think but you avoid fees once you have more than €500 apparently


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭torrevieja


    Zaph wrote: »
    British ones, so why should that make any difference to which Irish bank you choose?

    Interrogation I lived in the Uk for many years so I did bail them out while I was there,


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭torrevieja


    Qrt wrote: »
    EBS? very basic I think but you avoid fees once you have more than €500 apparently

    Thanks Qrt that’s all I neeðed to know mate


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭TuringBot47


    They used to charge €4 a month.

    They "reduced it" to €2 but now have individual transaction charges of at least 20c or more. Just one of my accounts got charged €8.80 on top of the €2...

    I've just tried out a Revolut card ( visa debit ), will probably top that up and use that instead for that account. I also have an N26 account/card but haven't used that yet.

    So I'll be closing 1 of my 3 Ulster Bank accounts and seriously reconsidering the others.
    I won't be paying €100 for one account for the most incompetent bank in Ireland, I.T. disasters, painfully slow processing of loan applications and punitive transaction charges.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,479 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    Qrt wrote: »
    EBS? very basic I think but you avoid fees once you have more than €500 apparently

    EBS Moneymanager account has no fees and no minimum balance or monthly lodgement. You get a debit card (new cards will be contactless from June 17, 2019) which you can use as an ATM card.

    For what the OP is looking for, it sounds like a perfect fit but note that there is no mobile app and the EBS website is not mobile friendly. No chequebook either.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32 suirthing


    im in the same boat as the OP, got charged over €13 for one months banking by Ulster Bank....

    Can anyone who has an N26 account tell me if its possible to completely replace a standard bank account with it?? ie do i still need to have a bank account of some kind to use it? just need usual things - direct debits, atm, contactless etc no need for chequebook or overdraft, cheers


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭Qrt


    suirthing wrote: »
    im in the same boat as the OP, got charged over €13 for one months banking by Ulster Bank....

    Can anyone who has an N26 account tell me if its possible to completely replace a standard bank account with it?? ie do i still need to have a bank account of some kind to use it? just need usual things - direct debits, atm, contactless etc no need for chequebook or overdraft, cheers

    My own personal opinion is that N26 accounts are probably fine for most people, but they might be frowned upon if you're looking for a loan etc. They have a banking licence, but I doubt they'll be seen as a bank for a few years to come.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭Delta2113


    EBS Money Manager combined with Revolut FREE basic a/c is a no brainer!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭BohsCeltic


    Delta2113 wrote: »
    EBS Money Manager combined with Revolut FREE basic a/c is a no brainer!

    This is what i am going for. Already have Revolut so just need to open ESB a/c now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭torrevieja


    coylemj wrote: »
    EBS Moneymanager account has no fees and no minimum balance or monthly lodgement. You get a debit card (new cards will be contactless from June 17, 2019) which you can use as an ATM card.

    For what the OP is looking for, it sounds like a perfect fit but note that there is no mobile app and the EBS website is not mobile friendly. No chequebook either.

    Hi Coylemj. That sounds good but I have a question do I have to take the debit card and if so is there an annual charge or Government stamp duty see I don’t have any cards with Ulster or cheque books but there web page is alright

    Also I have never been charged by Ulster bank before I see some of you have been charged 4 euro a month this didn’t happen to me I guess I had enough in bank to cover this so this €2 sucks


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭torrevieja


    EBS Moneymanager account has no fees and no minimum balance or monthly lodgement. You get a debit card (new cards will be contactless from June 17, 2019) which you can use as an ATM card



    Can anybody tell me if There is a Government Stamp duty on these Debit cards with EBS thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,479 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    torrevieja wrote: »
    Hi Coylemj. That sounds good but I have a question do I have to take the debit card and if so is there an annual charge or Government stamp duty see I don’t have any cards with Ulster or cheque books but there web page is alright

    You need the card to withdraw cash in an EBS branch, you dont get a pass book with a MoneyManager account.

    The Govt. stamp duty only cuts in if you use it as an ATM card, if you take the card and only use it as a debit card or not at all, you won't pay any Govt. duty.

    So it depends on how you use the card.......

    Debit card only (no ATM withdrawals): no Govt duty.

    ATM Only: 12c per transaction, capped at €2.50 p.a. Billed annually, usually in January.

    ATM and debit card use: 12c per ATM withdrawal, capped at €5 p.a.

    https://www.revenue.ie/en/property/stamp-duty/other-stamp-duty/financial-cards/atm-and-debit-cards.aspx


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭torrevieja


    coylemj wrote: »
    You need the card to withdraw cash in an EBS branch, you dont get a pass book with a MoneyManager account.

    The Govt. stamp duty only cuts in if you use it as an ATM card, if you take the card and only use it as a debit card or not at all, you won't pay any Govt. duty.

    So it depends on how you use the card.......

    Debit card only (no ATM withdrawals): no Govt duty.

    ATM Only: 12c per transaction, capped at €2.50 p.a. Billed annually, usually in January.

    ATM and debit card use: 12c per ATM withdrawal, capped at €5 p.a.

    https://www.revenue.ie/en/property/stamp-duty/other-stamp-duty/financial-cards/atm-and-debit-cards.aspx

    Thanks coylemj I actually won’t be withdrawing, just lodging do I use the card when lodging ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,479 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    torrevieja wrote: »
    Thanks coylemj I actually won’t be withdrawing, just lodging do I use the card when lodging ?

    Yes, you need the card for any kind of transaction in an EBS branch - lodge, withdraw, get a draft etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭Delta2113


    You could use your EBS card in shops and get cashback and not get hit with the Government 12cent ATM charge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,786 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    suirthing wrote: »
    im in the same boat as the OP, got charged over €13 for one months banking by Ulster Bank....

    Can anyone who has an N26 account tell me if its possible to completely replace a standard bank account with it?? ie do i still need to have a bank account of some kind to use it? just need usual things - direct debits, atm, contactless etc no need for chequebook or overdraft, cheers

    I've done it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 811 ✭✭✭Rock Paper Scissors


    I've done it also.

    Everything is n26 now for me


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭torrevieja


    but can you lodge money in a n26?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,786 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    torrevieja wrote: »
    but u can you lodge money in a n26?

    In the the and a half years I've banked with them I've never needed to. Where's everyone getting this cash from anyway?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,067 ✭✭✭368100


    torrevieja wrote: »
    I see Ulster BAnk are now charging you €2 a month Maintenance fee even though we bailed them out, regardless even if you have €3000,

    My account is mainly direct debits and some wired lodgements

    Just wondering if there are any banks out there that don’t have these charges or am I better of staying with them even though I’m down €24 a year

    How do you think banks can operate without some form of charges?

    You want an account, card, statements, online banking all for free? )


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭torrevieja


    368100 wrote: »
    How do you think banks can operate without some form of charges?

    You want an account, card, statements, online banking all for free? )

    Yes i do want it free Mate, Could never understand that Charging you for Lodging and withdrawls

    If i kept €3000 there would be no charges, but Greedy Banks Getting Greedier,

    One Teller on all the Time

    i don't have a card,

    Statements are online,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,794 ✭✭✭cookie1977


    My wife and I were with PTSB which I liked a lot up until the rapid increase in charges. I've moved lock stock to N26 and we maintain her account with PTSB which works for us.
    We've AIB credit cards and we use these 99% of the time to pay for stuff through android pay. A few little hick ups setting up direct debits with N26 (mainly down to those other companies) but all good now. My employer is happy to pay into the N26 too. I rarely use/handle cash now.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 948 ✭✭✭Dirkziggler


    torrevieja wrote: »
    I see Ulster BAnk are now charging you €2 a month Maintenance fee even though we bailed them out, regardless even if you have €3000,

    My account is mainly direct debits and some wired lodgements

    Just wondering if there are any banks out there that don’t have these charges or am I better of staying with them even though I’m down €24 a year

    All banks have quarterly fees. I think your mad to be agrieved by €24 euro a year. Do all your wire transfers by Western Union or some other obscure money transfer set up and pay 20 quid a transfer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭Qrt


    368100 wrote: »
    How do you think banks can operate without some form of charges?

    You want an account, card, statements, online banking all for free? )

    To be fair, this is how pretty much every bank in the UK operates. Day to day stuff is free, but they hammer you with transfer fees.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭torrevieja


    All banks have quarterly fees. I think your mad to be agrieved by €24 euro a year. Do all your wire transfers by Western Union or some other obscure money transfer set up and pay 20 quid a transfer.


    dirkziggler
    Not Quite Correct : EBS Moneymanager account has no fees and no minimum balance or monthly lodgement. You get a debit card (new cards will be contactless from June 17, 2019) which you can use as an ATM card

    Ulster Bank Had no Charges as long as you had €3000 minnium but they got greedy and took this away So EBS here i come...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,067 ✭✭✭368100


    torrevieja wrote: »
    Yes i do want it free Mate, Could never understand that Charging you for Lodging and withdrawls

    If i kept €3000 there would be no charges, but Greedy Banks Getting Greedier,

    One Teller on all the Time

    i don't have a card,

    Statements are online,

    So I.T. maintenance, staff costs, interbank charges, costs of issuing cards etc. Should be 100% carried by the bank, while you get a completely free service?
    I think people forget these days that banks are a business, there to make money. What other main services are 100% free these days? None


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