V Par

GolfNut33

Hi Lads,


Just wondering if you know if V Par can be a handicap counting competition and if so, how?


Cheers

acalmenvoy

GolfNut33 wrote: »

Hi Lads,


Just wondering if you know if V Par can be a handicap counting competition and if so, how?


Cheers

Yes V Par is qualifying. Shooting all square in V par is the same as 36 pts in stableford or shooting level par in stroke play.

spacecoyote

acalmenvoy wrote: »

Yes V Par is qualifying. Shooting all square in V par is the same as 36 pts in stableford or shooting level par in stroke play.

+1, no reason it can't count as qualifying.

You're cut in the exact same measure as any other comp. So if you're 1-up V-Par, you'll get 1 x your standard cut for your handicap category (assuming a CSS of level par)

PhuckHugh22

Yes as said above they are usually counting.

Its a strange one though.
An 18 H/C could shoot 8 doubles 2 bogies 4 pars and 4 birdies for Even/All Sq in V-par. But have 40 points in stableford.

callaway92

PhuckHugh22 wrote: »

Yes as said above they are usually counting.

Its a strange one though.
An 18 H/C could shoot 8 doubles 2 bogies 4 pars and 4 birdies for Even/All Sq in V-par. But have 40 points in stableford.

Yes; it's matchplay against the course; not sure why it would be considered strange to be honest.

You could also have 42 points in Stableford but shoot a nett 71 in Strokeplay if you have one disaster hole.

PhuckHugh22

callaway92 wrote: »

Yes; it's matchplay against the course; not sure why it would be considered strange to be honest.

You could also have 42 points in Stableford but shoot a nett 71 in Strokeplay if you have one disaster hole.

Yes, I understand that thanks.

Also the second point is pretty irrelevant in relation to handicap adjustment purposes which was what the point of my post was.

callaway92

PhuckHugh22 wrote: »

Yes, I understand that thanks.

Also the second point is pretty irrelevant in relation to handicap adjustment purposes which was what the point of my post was.

Alright. I'll leave somebody else enjoy your passive-aggressivenesss.

PhuckHugh22

callaway92 wrote: »

Alright. I'll leave somebody else enjoy your passive-aggressivenesss.

Haha fair enough.
Just saying that what you are referring to is not the same. Wasn't trying to be aggressive so sorry if I offended you.

GolfNut33

spacecoyote wrote: »

+1, no reason it can't count as qualifying.

You're cut in the exact same measure as any other comp. So if you're 1-up V-Par, you'll get 1 x your standard cut for your handicap category (assuming a CSS of level par)

If I was putting for a net bogie (already lost hole) do I pick up or putt out?

callaway92

GolfNut33 wrote: »

If I was putting for a net bogie (already lost hole) do I pick up or putt out?

Net Bogie = Pick up - It's literally matchplay against the course if you get me

H-Cap 18 = Gross Bogey = Half
Gross Par/Birdie/Eagle = Win
Gross Double Bogey = Loss

Mantis Toboggan

It's more of a matchplay against your handicap then against the course.

callaway92

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

It's more of a matchplay against your handicap then against the course.

True actually

GolfNut33

callaway92 wrote: »

Net Bogie = Pick up - It's literally matchplay against the course if you get me

Hey Callaway. Yeah I get that bit, but strictly speaking about handicap counting and adjustments. If I'm putting for a net bogie and I pick up how does it be calculated at the end of the round for handicap purposes?

callaway92

GolfNut33 wrote: »

Hey Callaway. Yeah I get that bit, but strictly speaking about handicap counting and adjustments. If I'm putting for a net bogie and I pick up how does it be calculated at the end of the round for handicap purposes?

Most likely it would be a case of anything worse than 4 Down (negative) would be a 0.1 adjustment upwards.

Probably anything better than 1 Up would be an adjustment downwards.

CSS will be decided off the scores like the below

GolfNut33

Or lets say I shoot the lights out and have 10 birdies. If it was stableford I could have 45 points but in VPar I only get the win in the hole and it doesn't take into account that I could have beaten par by 2 in some holes, if you know what I mean.

callaway92

Yeh, that's correct and a good Q, but you could say the same about Stableford where you could've been on for a disaster +6 on a hole, but scratch in stableford saves you from getting a 0.1

PhuckHugh22

GolfNut33 wrote: »

Or lets say I shoot the lights out and have 10 birdies. If it was stableford I could have 45 points but in VPar I only get the win in the hole and it doesn't take into account that I could have beaten par by 2 in some holes, if you know what I mean.

Ya this is what I mentioned earlier. Unfortunately it just is a win as you say and handicap adjustments are calculated by how many holes you win by as has been said previously.

GolfNut33

OK, Thanks lads. Seems a bit of an unusual way to get 0.1 or a cut.

Russman

Its just one of the quirks of the system. V Par or Versus Par is exactly that. As mentioned earlier its basically matchplay against the course/handicap. Hence the old adage "if you have two, take two".
Its not strange, its just different to strokes and stableford. I like it tbh.