eFootball PES2020

akelly02

Colemania wrote: »

Nope, lost the license a while back

ah balls

Johnny Sausage

akelly02 wrote: »

ah balls

can get them in in an option file on PS4

CWF

Does anyone else find playing in the Master League a lot different and lot less enjoyable than playing in the local play mode as a friendly, in a World cup or the Euros etc.? It just feels like the Master league is a bit broken, even playing as Man Utd with the real team as opposed to the stock 11. ML gameplay feels like a different game altogether to everything else. Just my thoughts.

Colemania

Hi all,

We've been running a PES 2020 league for PS4 players since release and have run PES leagues for the last few years purely consisting of boards users.

There is a new league starting up very soon, our 9th season of PES leagues! The format of this league will be an approach which we have tried for the current season and has worked out quite well.

Each week you will have to pick a different team and once you pick a team, you can't use them again. It keeps things fresh and lets you use an array of teams you may never have used before.

If you're not on our Discord chat, let me know if you're interested in playing the next season of the league.

Wilberto

I must be honest, seeing Rangers get past Braga kinda make me want to join. Just a pity that I'd only be able to use them once though.



Although, I should probably get the game first. :pac:

Rowley Birkin QC

Is there a way to play against a mate online where two of us are in one house on one console and the other is in another house?

Even getting to a 1v1 online "friendly" was a ridiculously complicated process.

Gamer Bhoy 89

Just bought the game on PS4 because it was on the Spring Sale. I haven't looked at any info regarding the game but did they seriously remove the ability to customise your own manager for Master League??

So now I have to manage Celtic as "D. CAMERON, Scotsman and dead ringer for Maradona"?

Kind-of broke the immersion for me. I love PES because it had a very robust customisation suite and the creation of your own manager's face was always a fantastic addition. Sucks they had to limit it to 18 real managers, and the only thing you can edit is their name and nationality.

I guess I'll just have to pick the manager most likely to manage the team I'm choosing, because I doubt Maradona (or almost any of these managers) would touch Celtic with a barge pole

razorblunt

It's just a face for cut scenes and on your dashboard, no big deal.

What's the best source for a PS4 Option File that doesn't cost the earth?

Gamer Bhoy 89

I use PESGaming

CWF

I know they're not popular but I use Pes Universe. Find it good for a tenner. There are free options like Pes World which are just the same if your tech savvy enough

but1er

can you get an option file for xbox one? i remember last year you couldnt

Royal Irish

but1er wrote: »

can you get an option file for xbox one? i remember last year you couldnt

Still cant

Salvation Tambourine

I finally learned how to hold players off, I'm not very good at it but can see it being a bit of game changer.

I'm still pretty awful at the game though.

Anyone else noticed an increase in erratic movements by defenders running towards the ball then in a large circle making it really hard to beat teams that play very direct.

but1er

Royal Irish wrote: »

Still cant

thats fine dont find it a big deal tbh.

I downloaded PES Lite (again) a few days ago and have had a few games online. Game play is great, easily the best football game I've played, and at first I was wondering why I deleted it in the first place. Quickly remembered, way too many free kicks and every free kick seems to be a yellow card. I also haven't won a single competitive header yet (that bits on me).

I'm persevering with it for now but the free kick situation has had me hovering over 'delete' a few times.

Also, how can a company make a game with such great game play but still have menus that a first year games development student in first semester would be embarrassed by. I don't even bother changing lineups/tactics as it's nightmarish.

el Fenomeno

I've bought every pro evo (or incarnation of) since ISS 64 on the N64. Usually on launch day. Next one will the first I won't buy unless non-paid reviews are favourable. They've ruined what was a great game. It's almost unplayable.

akelly02

el Fenomeno wrote: »

I've bought every pro evo (or incarnation of) since ISS 64 on the N64. Usually on launch day. Next one will the first I won't buy unless non-paid reviews are favourable. They've ruined what was a great game. It's almost unplayable.

I love it .. I’m playing it 2 hrs a day on average the last while . Master league with Leicester on top player is very enjoyable. Vardy is a sniper of the highest caliber .

dar83

el Fenomeno wrote: »

I've bought every pro evo (or incarnation of) since ISS 64 on the N64. Usually on launch day. Next one will the first I won't buy unless non-paid reviews are favourable. They've ruined what was a great game. It's almost unplayable.

How exactly, in your opinion? You obviously have the experience of the series to be able to detail that a bit.

The latest (now previous maybe with DP6?) update with Data Pack 5 did make some things things a little bit weird, but other than that overall I find it plays an amazing game of football. Player movement is good, ball physics are good, shooting is good, heading is a bit tricky but once you get it, it's also good. Only thing that really bothers me are the AI cheats at Top Player/Superstar difficulty, but I'm not sure they'll ever get rid of that.

What they have done with this iteration that is actually a major positive but that some people can't deal with, is update the physicality rules of engagement and tried to stop people spamming the pressure button or A as they used to. It's actually time for a lot of people to try and learn how to defend properly, but a lot of them don't appear to be getting that message, they just complain about giving away too many free kicks.

Salvation Tambourine

dar83 wrote: »

How exactly, in your opinion? You obviously have the experience of the series to be able to detail that a bit.

The latest (now previous maybe with DP6?) update with Data Pack 5 did make some things things a little bit weird, but other than that overall I find it plays an amazing game of football. Player movement is good, ball physics are good, shooting is good, heading is a bit tricky but once you get it, it's also good. Only thing that really bothers me are the AI cheats at Top Player/Superstar difficulty, but I'm not sure they'll ever get rid of that.

What they have done with this iteration that is actually a major positive but that some people can't deal with, is update the physicality rules of engagement and tried to stop people spamming the pressure button or A as they used to. It's actually time for a lot of people to try and learn how to defend properly, but a lot of them don't appear to be getting that message, they just complain about giving away too many free kicks.

I've been playing a lot of Pro Ev lately and the first touch is something that drives me insane. It's so heavy and has cost me a few goals, some obviously would have been my fault but there were times where the player took way, way too long to actually control the ball.

I am useless at defending, any tips? Although I will say that there's been far too many times that a through ball has resulted in a goal against me because my centre half inexplicably dashes forward, I'm not pressing sprint or pressure and it still does it.

dar83

First touch is one of the things they changed a bit in the latest update, it seems more sluggish now, but it is another context sensitive thing these days, just make sure you're never pressing the sprint button for a start, try using the R2/RT button to help with it in tighter areas as well and the use of the correct/incorrect directional input (again, context for the player important here) while you first control the ball can make a huge difference. There are of course times when your player is tired or the CPU decides to screw you over and it all goes wrong anyway, but using the above helps minimise that. Main thing is to know when to play it safe and know when to take a chance. Sometimes it's better to forego controlling it and just hoof it into the stands. :P

Defending is all about positioning and patience. Stand off the attackers outside your final third and don't go chasing the ball. PES historically has always punished dragging players out of position and this version is no different. Match the player defending with the attacking player from the relative position on your opposition, unless you have to use someone else to cover. If through balls are killing you it tells me that you're more than likely having players move out of position too quickly/easily and leaving gaps. Try putting Deep Defensive Line on and staying compact at the back, it should help close up the space behind your back line.

For tackling it's all about timing. Don't hold X/A to apply pressure to an opponent as you'll end up giving away fouls, time your press of it to standing tackle and take the ball. Another big tip when defending is don't use the sprint button as much as you can manage, as your players will react to the ball a lot quicker and with smart positioning (while standing off them) you'll begin to intercept a lot more passes that may otherwise have rolled straight past you. All said and done, defending and positioning comes a lot down to proper and smart use of super-cancel, get used to using this at every opportunity and you'll be in a much better position to react more quickly to loose balls, interceptions etc...

Nokotan

Nokotan wrote: »

I've been playing a lot of Pro Ev lately and the first touch is something that drives me insane. It's so heavy and has cost me a few goals, some obviously would have been my fault but there were times where the player took way, way too long to actually control the ball.

I am useless at defending, any tips? Although I will say that there's been far too many times that a through ball has resulted in a goal against me because my centre half inexplicably dashes forward, I'm not pressing sprint or pressure and it still does it.

Drove me up and down the wall.

Salvation Tambourine

dar83 wrote: »

First touch is one of the things they changed a bit in the latest update, it seems more sluggish now, but it is another context sensitive thing these days, just make sure you're never pressing the sprint button for a start, try using the R2/RT button to help with it in tighter areas as well and the use of the correct/incorrect directional input (again, context for the player important here) while you first control the ball can make a huge difference. There are of course times when your player is tired or the CPU decides to screw you over and it all goes wrong anyway, but using the above helps minimise that. Main thing is to know when to play it safe and know when to take a chance. Sometimes it's better to forego controlling it and just hoof it into the stands. :P

Defending is all about positioning and patience. Stand off the attackers outside your final third and don't go chasing the ball. PES historically has always punished dragging players out of position and this version is no different. Match the player defending with the attacking player from the relative position on your opposition, unless you have to use someone else to cover. If through balls are killing you it tells me that you're more than likely having players move out of position too quickly/easily and leaving gaps. Try putting Deep Defensive Line on and staying compact at the back, it should help close up the space behind your back line.

For tackling it's all about timing. Don't hold X/A to apply pressure to an opponent as you'll end up giving away fouls, time your press of it to standing tackle and take the ball. Another big tip when defending is don't use the sprint button as much as you can manage, as your players will react to the ball a lot quicker and with smart positioning (while standing off them) you'll begin to intercept a lot more passes that may otherwise have rolled straight past you. All said and done, defending and positioning comes a lot down to proper and smart use of super-cancel, get used to using this at every opportunity and you'll be in a much better position to react more quickly to loose balls, interceptions etc...

Cheers for the detailed the response. It always sounds so easy in theory! I'll give it a go next time I play.

v3ttel

Nokotan wrote: »

I've been playing a lot of Pro Ev lately and the first touch is something that drives me insane. It's so heavy and has cost me a few goals, some obviously would have been my fault but there were times where the player took way, way too long to actually control the ball.

I am useless at defending, any tips? Although I will say that there's been far too many times that a through ball has resulted in a goal against me because my centre half inexplicably dashes forward, I'm not pressing sprint or pressure and it still does it.

Are you on PS4 - if so PM me if you'd like a few friendlies.

I bought PES recently (coming over from FIFA but tired of how much of a grind FUT is) and I've scarcely been able to win a game online, except for the one day I went 5 at the back, but don't enjoy playing that way.

Salvation Tambourine

v3ttel wrote: »

Are you on PS4 - if so PM me if you'd like a few friendlies.

I bought PES recently (coming over from FIFA but tired of how much of a grind FUT is) and I've scarcely been able to win a game online, except for the one day I went 5 at the back, but don't enjoy playing that way.

I'm xBox unfortunately. Are you playing MyClub or just regular online games? I found that the manager's tactics in MyClub really did matter when I thought it wouldn't.

Salvation Tambourine

With the new update has anyone noticed that it's much harder to shield the ball now? Even with strong players.

razorblunt

Option file loaded and 6 games into ML with Nottingham Forest. I’ve had 2 free kicks in total given to me. This is always an issue, I honestly think out of the last, say 5 iterations I’ve bought I could count on one hand the number of penalties I’ve been awarded and both hands for free kicks in shooting range

clsmooth

razorblunt wrote: »

Option file loaded and 6 games into ML with Nottingham Forest. I’ve had 2 free kicks in total given to me. This is always an issue, I honestly think out of the last, say 5 iterations I’ve bought I could count on one hand the number of penalties I’ve been awarded and both hands for free kicks in shooting range

I had two in one half this morning. Was one of the derby games in ML where the challenges were flying in left right and centre the victim Chalov was out for a few weeks after bruising following the game. Back in time for QF against Barca though in Champions League. Can Crystal Palace upset them in Camp Nou? Playing Superstar difficulty, need to keep it tight at the back and hopefully nick a goal. Cracking game in prospect.

Few suggested improvements, when playing online you can play your master league team vs a friend right now but the players all revert to base level which means all the young lads you brought through are average. Takes the fun out of it a little bit. Also why not add in the option to have a two legged game in the friendly match lobby? Away goals counting, injuries/suspensions carried over and extra time and penalties as required? FK are overpowered too. Must maintain my discipline in Barcelona.

razorblunt

clsmooth wrote: »

I had two in one half this morning. Was one of the derby games in ML where the challenges were flying in left right and centre the victim Chalov was out for a few weeks after bruising following the game. Back in time for QF against Barca though in Champions League. Can Crystal Palace upset them in Camp Nou? Playing Superstar difficulty, need to keep it tight at the back and hopefully nick a goal. Cracking game in prospect.

Few suggested improvements, when playing online you can play your master league team vs a friend right now but the players all revert to base level which means all the young lads you brought through are average. Takes the fun out of it a little bit. Also why not add in the option to have a two legged game in the friendly match lobby? Away goals counting, injuries/suspensions carried over and extra time and penalties as required? FK are overpowered too. Must maintain my discipline in Barcelona.

I'm about 30-35 games in now, I've only had two free kicks in shot-at-goal territory, annoyingly the CPU knocks me off stride a lot but they get a free when I do similar. Best of all though, the CPU got booked for diving after an X tackle!

I agree on the free kicks being overpowered, I'm still on a promotion run in my first season but if the lads for Luton and Charlton are pinging them in, I can imagine what the higher levels are like.

Had a decent cut off United in the Cup, lost 4-3, gave away a free kick and it was inevitable what was going to happen next.

clsmooth

Yep the heart sinks when you give away a free kick within 25m

Managed to nick a 0-0 away in the Nou Camp with 35% possession and 2 shots (1 on target). No idea how Barca didn’t score at least 2 or 3. They hit the wood work too. Was really dominated. Got them back to Selhurst Park and struggled again but managed to beat them 1-0. Spent the last 10 minutes running down the clock with the ball in the corners Juventus up next :cool:

Cienciano

clsmooth wrote: »

Yep the heart sinks when you give away a free kick within 25m

It's the same in myclub. Free kicks are so dangerous.

dar83

If you don't already, learn how to become the keeper for FK's (Change player and R3 press together on Xbox). Easiest way to save them and it works 95% of the time. Wait until the player just starts his run up animation and move towards the open post, will work against the CPU nearly every time. Online you have to factor in the chance another player will know you'll do it and go for the keeper side anyway, which will leave you completely open there, but for the majority, you'll still save them.

Colemania

Morning all. We run a boards PES league and have a new league starting next week. Looks like we may have 14-18 players but the more the merrier! I'm sure a lot of ye are bored in isolation so may want a fun league to join so the boards PES League will help with this boredom hopefully.

It's a PS4 league so unfortunately can only accept players on PS4. We've got a great community that we've had the majority of for a few years now and there's a bit of banter among everyone also.

We operate the league via the discord app so if anyone is interested, I'll PM you a link to it.

wadacrack

Just started playing this instead of FIFA. Its a great game reminds me of PES 5. Far superior to FIFA. Challenging game and pays attention to detail

akelly02

wadacrack wrote: »

Just started playing this instead of FIFA. Its a great game reminds me of PES 5. Far superior to FIFA. Challenging game and pays attention to detail

Always has had superior gameplay than fifa , minus the bells and whistles

Cienciano

wadacrack wrote: »

Just started playing this instead of FIFA. Its a great game reminds me of PES 5. Far superior to FIFA. Challenging game and pays attention to detail

When you score a nice goal from distance it really is satisfying in this game.

piplip87

Ah lads this legend challenge is an absolute pain in the hole. It's pot luck depending on how the AI is feeling.... Lost 2-1 3 times after taking lead. 3 free kicks and an og conceded.

akelly02

piplip87 wrote: »

Ah lads this legend challenge is an absolute pain in the hole. It's pot luck depending on how the AI is feeling.... Lost 2-1 3 times after taking lead. 3 free kicks and an og conceded.

just play master league

pm1977x

akelly02 wrote: »

just play master league

Master League is the only reason I buy PES, it's outstanding, 2020 finally allows you decide where all your money goes, ie. you can divert money from player sales into wages and vice versa. (only negative is the near unsavable opposition free kicks! :mad: )


Also enjoyed the training this year now that they added achievements.

Cienciano

piplip87 wrote: »

Ah lads this legend challenge is an absolute pain in the hole. It's pot luck depending on how the AI is feeling.... Lost 2-1 3 times after taking lead. 3 free kicks and an og conceded.

I haven't tried this one yet but always find them handy enough with 5 at the back, swarm the box and deep defensive line.

IncognitoMan

3rd go, won it on pens.

I really should have won the first match but two jammy goals for the CPU meant I lost 2 - 1

It's not like playing online. Take your time and look for openings. If you play like you do online you are essentially just giving the CPU the ball back and in turn giving them more opportunity to attack and they will score if you keep giving them opportunity to attack.

Got Cruyff for my troubles. You can combine the scout with any of the 5* scouts you have been getting for the last few weeks so technically you can get any legend you want from the list

BurnUp78

Found PES20(and fifa20 too) to be ****e and haven't touched since August.. Having great fun with PES6 on a ps2 emulator. No Jim Beglin making your ears bleed, no frustratingly difficult AI, Nostalgia of playing with Ronaldinho, Henry, Adriano etc.,
Controls can be frustrating at times and some of the players faces are nightmare inducing but I'm shocked at how well this holds up 15 years later.
Might fire up Fifa 06/07 for the class soundtracks and get another blast of Nostalgia :P

whiskeyman

I've had a love / hate relationship with PES2020 this year.

After learning lots of cool tricks from Spooney Pizza videos on YouTube, I've realised what an amazing game it plays.

You really need to put the time into it to get the best out of it.
I downloaded FIFA at the start of lockdown and enjoyed it at the start, but the players move so unrealistically and it's just not a good sim.

Lord TSC

Hey lads,

Piplip popped up some stuff about PES that intriqued me over in the FUT thread, and I've noticed PES 2020 is on Gamepass, so am downloading it.

Realistically, how much time (or money) would be needed to build a competitive team? I like what I've read so far about a lack of markets, etc, and there seems to be a little more control over getting players for your team?

piplip87

Lord TSC wrote: »

Hey lads,

Piplip popped up some stuff about PES that intriqued me over in the FUT thread, and I've noticed PES 2020 is on Gamepass, so am downloading it.

Realistically, how much time (or money) would be needed to build a competitive team? I like what I've read so far about a lack of markets, etc, and there seems to be a little more control over getting players for your team?

Hi only seeing this now.

PES now has featured players back. Basically spend a euro and your guaranteed an 85+ rated player.

When you start myclub there's plenty of starter objectives which will give you 50 coins (FIFA points) per objective. A featured player costs 100 coins.

If your on Xbox 1 it's free on game pass or there's a lite version for free on PS4 and Xbox which only gives you access to Myclub.

dar83

You don't need to spend any additional money to build a good team this year. They basically throw 85+ players at you from the start and you'll have a whole team worth of them just from playing after a couple of weeks if you wish.

Royal Irish

I think its more difficult to be competitive now since we have no live form with most football suspended due to covid-19

All the legends and icons with their 7/8 and 8/8 form and B live form is a huge advantage.

Putting it into perspective 8/8 form means an 80% chance of that player being on his live form or higher so they usually get B's and sometimes A's.

If they get a B in game their overall rating usually goes up about +4 or 5 and if on an A they go up about +9.

You just can't defend against my 107 Andy Cole and 105 Dwight Yorke getting on the end of crosses from my 107 David Beckham.

phobia2011

Just bought this game for €8 in psn, looking to get an option file, any advice?

splashthecash

phobia2011 wrote: »

Just bought this game for €8 in psn, looking to get an option file, any advice?

It’s 8€ on PSN store right now???

phobia2011

splashthecash wrote: »

It’s 8€ on PSN store right now???

Yeah, if you have ps plus, legend edition

but1er

June 4th