Philomena Lynott RIP

Mental Mickey

Yes he WAS that good

RabbleRouser2k

Mental Mickey wrote: »

As always, all the weirdos come out to play in AH.

We have an opinion-you don't agree with our opinion of that person, just as we don't agree with yours.

That doesn't make any of us right or wrong.

Fer the love of heck, when I die-I want people to be honest. I'll be in the ground, it won't matter what folks say about me. I won't be there to hear it.

Thelonious Monk

SirGerryAdams wrote: »

Was Phil Lynott that good? Or was it just that he died early?

Personally I think they were a middling rock band with a few hits, some good some awful, and because they were Irish they're overhyped to bejesus like we do with everything. They're probably about as significant as 10cc outside of Ireland, a band I really like but won't be remembered for too long.

NoviGlitzko

Not many singers have ever had the charisma that Phil had. A great singer, a great personality, and a proud Irishman. What's not to love? I thought Thin Lizzy produced some brilliant tunes as well.

corner of hells

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Personally I think they were a middling rock band with a few hits, some good some awful, and because they were Irish they're overhyped to bejesus like we do with everything. They're probably about as significant as 10cc outside of Ireland, a band I really like but won't be remembered for too long.

Hopefully the ol' wan has a humanist funeral where you can go along and give a few words about the band at the pulpit.

James Brown

I'm not one for lying about a person to make them sound good because they died, but it's nice to note their passing without being a c**t about it.

Mental Mickey

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Personally I think they were a middling rock band with a few hits, some good some awful, and because they were Irish they're overhyped to bejesus like we do with everything. They're probably about as significant as 10cc outside of Ireland, a band I really like but won't be remembered for too long.

Yeah right

Strumms

She came across as a nice woman who was full of love for her son, his music, legacy and indeed fans....

ceadaoin.

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Personally I think they were a middling rock band with a few hits, some good some awful, and because they were Irish they're overhyped to bejesus like we do with everything. They're probably about as significant as 10cc outside of Ireland, a band I really like but won't be remembered for too long.

Won't be remembered for too long? Bit of a ridiculous comment. It's been years since they were around already and they are still remembered. I regularly hear their songs on the radio here in the US, although I doubt many people here even realise they are Irish, they are a significant rock band from that era whose music still is popular. Not just in Ireland.

I mean to make it in America is pretty big for bands, even more so to still be getting radio play after all these years, and how many movies has the boys are back in town been in? Loads!

Mad_maxx

Mental Mickey wrote: »

What's that got to do with anything

Wake up

Mad_maxx

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Personally I think they were a middling rock band with a few hits, some good some awful, and because they were Irish they're overhyped to bejesus like we do with everything. They're probably about as significant as 10cc outside of Ireland, a band I really like but I t won't be remembered for too long.

First Rock band to make it internationally, plus a black man from Ireland doing anything was novel

Mental Mickey

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Wake up

I am

Fiftyfilthy

Fiftyfilthy wrote: »

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Finally she is with Phil again. RIP.

I don’t think that really happens

Please tell me, have you ever read the published flatulence of Messrs. Dawkins or Hitchens?

I'd love to read more about your original views on the matter.

Bobblehats

RIP. Her boy had an amazing grasp of that bass guitar. Back when hands on musical ability was almost a prerequisite? Before you even opened your goddamned mouth

Which of course he did too in becoming this iconic rock frontman. Adapted well to white culture, of course now it’s the opposite but yeah RIP.

arybvtcw0eolkf

SirGerryAdams wrote: »

Was Phil Lynott that good? Or was it just that he died early?

He was that good, and died early.

Strazdas

Thin Lizzy were brilliant at their peak, but Phil's career had stalled by the 80s. It didn't help that rock went out of fashion for a while and the charts were totally dominated by pop.

Mad_maxx

Thin lizzy were a lot better than the boomtown rats, I wasn't even born during their heyday but I'd listen to several of their hits, plus old town is a great tune

Mad_maxx

Strazdas wrote: »

Thin Lizzy were brilliant at their peak, but Phil's career had stalled by the 80s. It didn't help that rock went out of fashion for a while and the charts were totally dominated by pop.

He was an old fashioned rocker

paw patrol

Matt Barrett wrote: »

I'm not one for lying about a person to make them sound good because they died, but it's nice to note their passing without being a c**t about it.

I disagree . It's better to know the full truth.
I didn't really know of this woman so this thread is fascinating to me to see the different stories good and the no so good.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I couldn’t care less about who she is or if she’s dead or not - I just found it odd that the woman was all over the place going on about her son. No other dead pop stars mother did the same to me it seemed like she craved attention. Why do any of us even know who she is?

Well, she may have had conflicting feelings. I recently read an interview with John Bowman where he talked about how much he missed his son but that he still sometimes feels cross at him for leaving himself so vulnerable that he died needlessly. Emotions are messy.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

padd b1975 wrote: »

She had a strong dislike of Gary Moore too for some reason which I found unnecessary.

Maybe it was because he was a far superior musician to Phil.
Jealousy can be a cruel bedfellow.

May she rest in peace.

Charges of envy tend to be inane at the best of times. And the above isn’t the best of times...

Bobblehats

Strazdas wrote: »

Thin Lizzy were brilliant at their peak, but Phil's career had stalled by the 80s. It didn't help that rock went out of fashion for a while and the charts were totally dominated by pop.

I don’t think rock went out so much as older acts in trying to adapt truly embarrassing themselves. My recommendation to most of the rock ‘dinosaurs’ would have been take it easy, don’t try to remain relevant just enjoy your 40s and come back in the 90s when the new wave craze has died down and you have more value as vintage act. But they just couldn’t do it and so much cheese ensued

Welsh Megaman

RIP Philomena

Apologies for going slightly off-topic, but...is it pronounced Lie-nott or Lin-nott (Lin rhyming with gin)?

Heard both variations across the radio today.

Mental Mickey

Big Nasty wrote: »

Has Metallica gone home yet? Sure the removal will probably be tomorrow evening, they might hang around for it!

They've already played another gig in Holland

suicide_circus

wait a minute, was her son named after her?

Circuital

Mental Mickey wrote: »

As always, all the weirdos come out to play in AH.

Weird? No.

Miserable, sad people who feel the need to jump into an RIP thread in order to speak ill of a woman and proud mother whom by all accounts was well liked and clearly adored her son? Yes.

RIP Philomena.

I hope they’re somewhere together.

RikkFlair

Welsh Megaman wrote: »

RIP Philomena

Apologies for going slightly off-topic, but...is it pronounced Lie-nott or Lin-nott (Lin rhyming with gin)?

Heard both variations across the radio today.

On RTE news today they said that she herself pronounced it Lie nott

FFred

Badmouthing an old lady is nearly as cool and edgy as hating U2.

Thelonious Monk

FFred wrote: »

Badmouthing an old lady is nearly as cool and edgy as hating U2.

I can't stand U2, it's Bono's voice and their rehashed sound. How is that edgy or cool pray tell?

adox

Welsh Megaman wrote: »

RIP Philomena

Apologies for going slightly off-topic, but...is it pronounced Lie-nott or Lin-nott (Lin rhyming with gin)?

Heard both variations across the radio today.

It was always pronounced Lin-nott here before the Lie-nott thing arose.

Lie-nott maybe correct but he will always be known as Lin-nott to people from that era.

mikeym

R.I.P

Ursus Horribilis

Strazdas wrote: »

Thin Lizzy were brilliant at their peak, but Phil's career had stalled by the 80s. It didn't help that rock went out of fashion for a while and the charts were totally dominated by pop.

I've had a listen to some of his solo stuff and think that if he hadn't died so young, he could've gone on to do some interesting things. Yellow Pearl isn't the greatest thing he ever did but it's quite a departure from Whiskey in the Jar. Thin Lizzy I can take or leave.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

adox wrote: »

It was always pronounced Lin-nott here before the Lie-nott thing arose.

Lie-nott maybe correct but he will always be known as Lin-nott to people from that era.

Surnames can have different pronunciations in different parts of the country. If she pronounced it Lie-nott, that must have been the pronunciation she was raised with. Lin-nott may have taken hold in the public consciousness.

Ursus Horribilis

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Surnames can have different pronunciations in different parts of the country. If she pronounced it Lie-nott, that must have been the pronunciation she was raised with. Lin-nott may have taken hold in the public consciousness.

Like how a certain German supermarket chain will always be Liddle no matter how often they advertise it as "Leedle"

She was a brave woman to keep her baby in those days, especially a coloured one. May she Rest In Peace.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

I gotta be honest (and I hope folks'll be honest too when I go into the earth too) but I thought she was a horrible person.

She always promoted Phil, and for many, many years she spoke of being a single mother to Phil, and how difficult it was...

Never mentioned she had 2 other children who are still alive, a boy and a girl. Nor did she mention Phil was only told of one sibling, and not the other. (Phil's Sister shares a father with him, but the son is from a different relationship). Nor did she mention she never visited her grandkids, and didn't have a relationship with them.

And there was no mention of her other children in many obituaries... all about Phil. Probably the way she wanted it.

Cruel woman.

Weren’t those children put up for adoption? I’m not sure I’d say much about them either.

Mental Mickey

suicide_circus wrote: »

wait a minute, was her son named after her?

Oh ffs

Mental Mickey

Mental Mickey wrote: »

They've already played another gig in Holland

Dont think they'll come for it? Unless they get their private jet over?

Galwayguy35

Deleted User wrote: »

She was a brave woman to keep her baby in those days, especially a coloured one. May she Rest In Peace.

Seemed strange that she put the other 2 kids she had up for adoption and kept Phil.

Gimme A Pound

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Please tell me, have you ever read the published flatulence of Messrs. Dawkins or Hitchens?

I'd love to read more about your original views on the matter.

They just said they don't "think" that happens. What's wrong with that?

Circuital wrote: »

Weird? No.

Miserable, sad people who feel the need to jump into an RIP thread in order to speak ill of a woman and proud mother whom by all accounts was well liked and clearly adored her son? Yes.

RIP Philomena.

I hope they’re somewhere together.

FFred wrote: »

Badmouthing an old lady is nearly as cool and edgy as hating U2.

Well having nothing to do with her children/grandchildren isn't great form.

Mental Mickey

Roy Squeaking Ice wrote: »

They just they don't "think" that happens. What's wrong with that?



Well having nothing to do with her children/grandchildren isn't great form.

Read her book.

Galwayguy35

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Seemed strange that she put the other 2 kids she had up for adoption and kept Phil.

He was probably the oldest. I seem to remember that his dad used to pay maintenance.

A marvelous, beautiful lady. My late mother, who had scarce hair as she aged, wanted to know what she did to keep that supreme head of hair. She became more beautiful as she aged.

decky1

padd b1975 wrote: »

She had a strong dislike of Gary Moore too for some reason which I found unnecessary.

Maybe it was because he was a far superior musician to Phil.
Jealousy can be a cruel bedfellow.

May she rest in peace.

if you attended the concert in the point on the weekend they unveiled the statue of Phil you might see why , the concert in my opinion was about Gary Moore as he seemed to play far more than the other band members, and a life long friend of Phil's was told to come if he wanted to but not to bring anyone with him he just about got to sing one song. iI don't think she had anything to be jealous of.

PARlance

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Seemed strange that she put the other 2 kids she had up for adoption and kept Phil.

She was living in England at the time, Phil was sent back to Dublin to his grandparents to be raised. She had 2 more kids then, they were put up for adoption. She didn't raise any of them, she never really had a mothers role with Phil.

I'm assuming one child was all the grandparents could handle and the other two had to be put up for adoption.

Phil himself had a child with who was put up for adoption.

decky1

PARlance wrote: »

She was living in England at the time, Phil was sent back to Dublin to his grandparents to be raised. She had 2 more kids then, they were put up for adoption. She didn't raise any of them, she never really had a mothers role with Phil.

I'm assuming one child was all the grandparents could handle and the other two had to be put up for adoption.

Phil himself had a child with who was put up for adoption.

don't think this is the time or place for that kind of talk, have a bit of respect.

DublinHun72

PARlance wrote: »

She was living in England at the time, Phil was sent back to Dublin to his grandparents to be raised. She had 2 more kids then, they were put up for adoption. She didn't raise any of them, she never really had a mothers role with Phil.

I'm assuming one child was all the grandparents could handle and the other two had to be put up for adoption.

Phil himself had a child with who was put up for adoption.

Read an article a while back which seems to indicate she had Phil in the U.K and kept him. She then had a daughter by the same father as Phil’s but she was given up for adoption as the parents then split. The father of both children alleges he wanted to marry her but she didn’t want to. She had a further son 2 years later. I’m unclear as that what point Phil was sent to Dublin to life with her parents.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Roy Squeaking Ice wrote: »

They just said they don't "think" that happens. What's wrong with that?



Well having nothing to do with her children/grandchildren isn't great form.

Her other two children were put up for adoption, I thought. If that’s the case, why would she see them? I don’t know whether she saw her grandchildren from Phil.

Junkyard Tom

Ursus Horribilis wrote: »

Like how a certain German supermarket chain will always be Liddle no matter how often they advertise it as "Leedle"

And some creeps pronounce it Lie-dill. They should beaten with a thorny stick.

Mental Mickey

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Her other two children were put up for adoption, I thought. If that’s the case, why would she see them? I don’t know whether she saw her grandchildren from Phil.

She did