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Advice regarding car change of ownership

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  • 12-06-2019 3:20pm
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    blastman
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    Hi all, just wondering if there's anything I can do regarding the following situation (without going into too many details and yes, I'm aware it shouldn't have been allowed to happen, but hindsight advice doesn't help).

    Years ago, my mum got rid of her car by selling it to a family friend. To make a long story much shorter, we found out recently that the car is still registered to her. It's possible the VRC may have been handed over as the new "owner" bought and sold cars and may not have wanted the extra change of ownership to go on the VRC (details are hazy this far down the line). There are no offences piling up or anything like that, but I would like to force a transfer of ownership if could, to get it out of my mum's name.

    What option do I have here, without going to the guy who has the car now, as I wouldn't trust him as far as I'd throw him?
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    biko
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    That is a pickle
    The easiest is to get hold of the current logbook and fill it out properly.
    Another option is to get a replacement logbook and then make changes in that.

    In both cases the new guy will get a notification, so you may as well bite the bullet and hound him for the current logbook.


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    punisher5112
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    As above, fill out form, send off with€12 and new VLC in the post to your mum.

    Fill out new owner details and send back freepost to Shannon


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    ohnonotgmail
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    biko wrote: »
    That is a pickle
    The easiest is to get hold of the current logbook and fill it out properly.
    Another option is to get a replacement logbook and then make changes in that.

    In both cases the new guy will get a notification, so you may as well bite the bullet and hound him for the current logbook.

    in the second case the only notification they will get is the new logbook dropping through their letterbox. not much they can do then.


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    _Brian
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    punisher5112 wrote: »
    As above, fill out form, send off with€12 and new VLC in the post to your mum.

    Fill out new owner details and send back freepost to Shannon

    Great advice.


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    blastman
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    Cheers lads , I thought that might be the best option all right, just wanted to check I wasn't missing a better one


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    mgbgt1978
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    If it really was 'years ago' that this happened then it's a fairly safe bet that this car is no longer on the road....unless your man put the details from a crashed (or mechanically fecked) onto your mother's car. He can't have sold it without a VLC, and any request for a replacement would have been notified to the registered owner.

    Other option is that he broke it for parts.


    I wouldn't rush into applying for a replacement VLC just yet. Your mother will have to sign a declaration in front of a Guard stating that she still has the car and lost the VLC. If this 'friend' is a bit of a Chancer and a fresh VLC arrives at his place he could create a 'situation' for your mother.
    There is a procedure whereby she can inform Shannon that she sold the car on a certain date, etc. and is no longer the owner.

    She will have to sign a form stating that she sold it, stamped by a peace commissioner/solicitor . But she will also need to provide the name and address of the guy she sold it to on this form. At least this way she needn't worry about making a false declaration.


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    punisher5112
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    mgbgt1978 wrote: »
    If it really was 'years ago' that this happened then it's a fairly safe bet that this car is no longer on the road....unless your man put the details from a crashed (or mechanically fecked) onto your mother's car. He can't have sold it without a VLC, and any request for a replacement would have been notified to the registered owner.

    Other option is that he broke it for parts.


    I wouldn't rush into applying for a replacement VLC just yet. Your mother will have to sign a declaration in front of a Guard stating that she still has the car and lost the VLC. If this 'friend' is a bit of a Chancer and a fresh VLC arrives at his place he could create a 'situation' for your mother.
    There is a procedure whereby she can inform Shannon that she sold the car on a certain date, etc. and is no longer the owner.

    She will have to sign a form stating that she sold it, stamped by a peace commissioner/solicitor . But she will also need to provide the name and address of the guy she sold it to on this form. At least this way she needn't worry about making a false declaration.

    Put date of sale on it.... Doing absolutely nothing wrong...


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    mgbgt1978
    Registered Users Posts: 4,231 ✭✭✭mgbgt1978


    She would be applying for a replacement VLC for a car she sold years ago.



    http://www.donegalcoco.ie/media/donegalcountyc/motortax/pdfs/RF134.pdf


    The VLC wasn't "lost/stolen/destroyed". She knows exactly who has it.


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    blastman
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    mgbgt1978 wrote: »
    If it really was 'years ago' that this happened then it's a fairly safe bet that this car is no longer on the road....unless your man put the details from a crashed (or mechanically fecked) onto your mother's car. He can't have sold it without a VLC, and any request for a replacement would have been notified to the registered owner.

    Other option is that he broke it for parts.


    I wouldn't rush into applying for a replacement VLC just yet. Your mother will have to sign a declaration in front of a Guard stating that she still has the car and lost the VLC. If this 'friend' is a bit of a Chancer and a fresh VLC arrives at his place he could create a 'situation' for your mother.
    There is a procedure whereby she can inform Shannon that she sold the car on a certain date, etc. and is no longer the owner.

    She will have to sign a form stating that she sold it, stamped by a peace commissioner/solicitor . But she will also need to provide the name and address of the guy she sold it to on this form. At least this way she needn't worry about making a false declaration.
    The RF134 form doesn't say anything about her having to declare she still has the car. She's still the registered owner, if the guy she gave the cert to lost it, which is very possible at this stage, she would have to request the replacement anyway, I'd imagine.

    Do you have a link to the procedure you mentioned?


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    ohnonotgmail
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    blastman wrote: »
    The RF134 form doesn't say anything about her having to declare she still has the car. She's still the registered owner, if the guy she gave the cert to lost it, which is very possible at this stage, she would have to request the replacement anyway, I'd imagine.

    Do you have a link to the procedure you mentioned?

    just get to complete the rf134, send it to shannon, fill out the change of ownership and send that back to shannon. the car will then be nothing to do with her.


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