Pro14 Season 2019-2020

molloyjh

awec wrote: »

Yea, Lacey is the irrational one. My (and other Ulster fan's) dislike of Clancy is entirely rational.

Will never forget the day he tried to award Leinster a try after the final whistle. Such brazen skullduggery.

Yeah that was hilarious. I mean disgraceful. That was disgraceful.

Eod100

Wonder is there any risk to Ulster v Leinster?

twitter.com/CianTracey1/status/1298693728710856705

Buer

Eod100 wrote: »

Wonder is there any risk to Ulster v Leinster?

twitter.com/CianTracey1/status/1298693728710856705

I'd like to think that the senior panel and academy panel are training entirely separately at the moment to reduce exposure and group sizes.

However there has to be some shared element of equipment, coaching and locations which is a cause for concern. I'd imagine all staff will be tested tomorrow morning if not already.

Cookiemunster

The were all tested today as part of the scheduled IRFU testing regime. Results due tomorrow.

Sheep Shagger

Cookiemunster wrote: »

The were all tested today as part of the scheduled IRFU testing regime. Results due tomorrow.

Even if someone has it, it may not show tomorrow...

Larbre34

The fixture must be well in the balance.

Burkie1203

Sheep Shagger wrote: »

Even if someone has it, it may not show tomorrow...

That's going to be the way it goes as we head into the next few months. Players, especially academy players, will most likely be living at home with a family of 4 or 5 people and the virus will transmit.

All that can be done is to minimise the risk and get on with it. Players will continue to be tested regularly. Not much else can be done really.

Cookiemunster

Sheep Shagger wrote: »

Even if someone has it, it may not show tomorrow...

Maybe, but just like with the Munster case last week, if these tests are clear the match will go ahead.

Former Former

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/pro14/ulster-and-leinster-clash-to-go-ahead-despite-covid-19-cluster-in-ulster-academy-1.4339651

As of now, it's going ahead. I'd say it's 50 50 at best

bilston

If any of the Ulster senior squad test positive then presumably the rugby spotlight will turn to Connacht. This is where it could get very messy.

Fingers crossed all concerned who are symptomatic recover fully and quickly

The Lost Sheep

Burkie1203 wrote: »

That's going to be the way it goes as we head into the next few months. Players, especially academy players, will most likely be living at home with a family of 4 or 5 people and the virus will transmit.

All that can be done is to minimise the risk and get on with it. Players will continue to be tested regularly. Not much else can be done really.

I wouldnt say most academy players do live at home. Most are away for college and not at home and are living together.

CatFromHue

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Larbre34 wrote: »

The fixture must be well in the balance.

The fixture this weekend doesn't matter in any way so it's not the end of the world if it doesn't go ahead.

AdamD

In the football several players have tested positive in the week leading up to games and the games have gone ahead without them, not sure why this would be any different.

Buer

I tend to agree with Adam. This appears to be a cluster which makes things more murky but we've seen in sport, including rugby, that positive tests do not necessarily lead to postponements.

Jamie Roberts tested positive the week of the game for the Dragons and had obviously been training with the senior squad. It all depends on further results today. If they are negative, I'd be very surprised if the game was cancelled.

connachta

The Southern Kings have announced that they are dropping out of the Pro 14 for financial reasons.

Eod100

For the Edinburgh v Ulster match, will that have to be in Aviva say? Otherwise Ulster would have to quarantine for 14 days on return.

Cookiemunster

connachta wrote: »

The Southern Kings have announced that they are dropping out of the Pro 14 for financial reasons.

Welcome to Tuesday

Cookiemunster

Eod100 wrote: »

For the Edinburgh v Ulster match, will that have to be in Aviva say? Otherwise Ulster would have to quarantine for 14 days on return.

Ulster are UK based. They won't have to quarantine after traveling to another part of the UK. And travel from NI is exempt from the quarantine in Ireland.

Eod100

Cookiemunster wrote: »

Ulster are UK based. They won't have to quarantine after traveling to another part of the UK. And travel from NI is exempt from the quarantine in Ireland.

You're right about the first bit. Thought exemption was for people already resident in NI but wouldn't count if they had been abroad even if it's UK as UK is not on Ireland's green list. Gets kinda messy if they've been to UK less than 2 weeks beforehand and final is in Aviva against Leinster/Munster.

connachta

Cookiemunster wrote: »

Welcome to Tuesday

Welcome to twitter-Trump way of life, if you're late you're out

PTH2009

Scarlets BP win could spell a bit of bother for Munster but anything less for them the result is irrelevant in Munster vs Connacht game. At least Munster will know going into that game what they require if needs be

Leinster vs Munster semi final again, sure it be great

Former Former

PTH2009 wrote: »

Scarlets BP win could spell a bit of bother for Munster but anything less for them the result is irrelevant in Munster vs Connacht game. At least Munster will know going into that game what they require if needs be

Leinster vs Munster semi final again, sure it be great

Scarlets win without a BP and Munster getting nothing would see Scarlets go through.

I wouldn't worry, if Connacht make 15 changes Munster will win comfortably.

stephen_n

Dragons home form has been good this season. They already beat Scarlets at home in December. I’d imagine it would be a big ask for a BP. Then again Dragons have nothing to play for.

connachta

Former Former wrote: »

Scarlets win without a BP and Munster getting nothing would see Scarlets go through.

I wouldn't worry, if Connacht make 15 changes Munster will win comfortably.

Doubts you must have, would say Ioda.

Connacht have basically no injuries (SOB, S.Fitz, O'Donnell). Even without startin those who were brillant last week, they should have 8 players who are 1st choice or comparable
(McAlister, Delahunt, Roux, Blade, Fitzgerald, Arnold, Healy, TOH) + the others who are very good 2nd choices (McCoy, Murray, Gallagher, Oliver, Robb, probably Papali'i)


It depends if Irish internationals played last week are completely out or impact players on the bench. In the last case, Munster can be worried

bilston

Eod100 wrote: »

You're right about the first bit. Thought exemption was for people already resident in NI but wouldn't count if they had been abroad even if it's UK as UK is not on Ireland's green list. Gets kinda messy if they've been to UK less than 2 weeks beforehand and final is in Aviva against Leinster/Munster.

Play the final in Belfast and the problem is solved!

The IRFU will presumably be seeking some form of exemption, otherwise this will be an even bigger problem come the completion of the 6Ns in October and then the November games as well.

Eod100

bilston wrote: »

Play the final in Belfast and the problem is solved!

The IRFU will presumably be seeking some form of exemption, otherwise this will be an even bigger problem come the completion of the 6Ns in October and then the November games as well.

Yeah I think LOI teams could only play in green countries afaik but national side got quarantine exemption for Bulgaria away I think so maybe something similar.

razorblunt

Glasgow 7-3 up with almost 20 mins gone. Huw Jones in the bin.
Edinburgh lineout is a mess.

Jim Hamilton and Ali Kellock on comms are an absolute dose.

Buer

Poor enough game. Referee very strict on the breakdown once in the red zone. Edinburgh whistled twice for going off feet 5m from the Glasgow line in the space of 2 minutes.

razorblunt

It’s very flat alright, 2 decent backrows on paper but not sparking off each other at all.

Still remain shocked Chris Dean survived the numerous Edinburgh culls over the years, about as beige a player as you’ll see.

razorblunt

50 mins now of Jim Hamilton telling us how strong he is/was when no one has asked.

thomond2006

Dragons owned by the WRU putting out a second string against Scarlets.

Connacht putting out a mostly second string against Munster.

The Pro14 doesn't help itself.

Zzippy

thomond2006 wrote: »

Dragons owned by the WRU putting out a second string against Scarlets.

Connacht putting out a mostly second string against Munster.

The Pro14 doesn't help itself.

Should Connacht have gone full strength for both games? With nothing to play for, why should they not treat them as pre season games to have a look at everyone? 5 weeks to new season with no chance of warm up games in between.... Did exactly the right thing IMO

The Lost Sheep

thomond2006 wrote: »

Dragons owned by the WRU putting out a second string against Scarlets.

Connacht putting out a mostly second string against Munster.

The Pro14 doesn't help itself.

Both have nothing to play for. When new season will short relatively soon and its not likely there will be many chances for games in between why wouldnt they field more experimental sides

thomond2006

Zzippy wrote: »

Should Connacht have gone full strength for both games? With nothing to play for, why should they not treat them as pre season games to have a look at everyone? 5 weeks to new season with no chance of warm up games in between.... Did exactly the right thing IMO

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Both have nothing to play for. When new season will short relatively soon and its not likely there will be many chances for games in between why wouldnt they field more experimental sides

I understand all this but it lends itself to the tinfoil hat stuff you see on social media.

Burkie1203

https://twitter.com/SARugbymag/status/1299631046166798336?s=19

sydthebeat

Excellent

yerrahbah

Tompkins looking lively for Dragons so far.

Scarlets have turned down 2 kicks at goal so far.

0-0 after 10 mins

connachta

3-nil
C'mon Dragons
Munster would be nicer tomorrow

yerrahbah

7-3 to Scarlets after 20

Try after a lineout maul

Definitely look the better side

connachta

No

10-7 Dragons

yerrahbah

Dragons under pressure at scrum time and in the maul

14-10 to Scarlets after 30 mins.

Dragons giving away too many penalties

Dog Botherer

Scarlets pulling away felt inevitable really

yerrahbah

A nice grubber kick and Finish gets the try bonus point for Scarlets.

26-15 to Scarlets after 57

as it stands Munster need 2 points tomorrow to secure a Semi-Final

Dog Botherer

shambolic stuff there to let the Dragons right back in there

yerrahbah

incredibly harsh to disallow that

Dog Botherer

very harsh on Dragons in fairness

razorblunt

thomond2006 wrote: »

I understand all this but it lends itself to the tinfoil hat stuff you see on social media.

Welsh social media*

Who cares about those bampots

Eod100

razorblunt wrote: »

Welsh social media*

Who cares about those bampots

It's also inevitable with derbies anyway that there will be this stuff.

moby2101

Semi finals announced tomorrow after games? Need to book me local.

Exclamation Marc

moby2101 wrote: »

Semi finals announced tomorrow after games? Need to book me local.

Leinsters will be on Friday due to the Ireland v Finland football match on Sunday.