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Clare GAA Discussion - 2024 All Ireland Hurling Champions

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭Figerty


    I think his foot is in the astro. I assume that this is the margin of the small square. What happened after that is fair enough in terms of rules. The frame shown does not have the ball in the small square and he is marginally ahead of the ball. I'd say the ref got it right but it's not 100% certain.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,124 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    its a very ,very good call if it is , as i said with slow motion its so hard to judge , who would be a referee



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭PeggyShippen


    What's the standard in the football like guys? It's been a long time since I was at a game. I did try and follow whomever won the County afterwards in the Munster Club. Had some enjoyable days. In general id prefer the rugby and I really think Gaelic Football needs a tackle..Thats all an aside. Eire Og again or can Cratloe upset the Applecart?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,124 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Average to say the least, probably the best individual performances of the weekend came from Gary Brennan and David tubridy which speaks volumes for the next generation

    Overall standard of play is good but there is very little emphasis put on decision making in this county , probably the main reason we play nice football against the likes of Roscommon and win before getting trounced by a more clever team in the next round

    Eire Og still look the team to beat , I reckon lissycasey, cratloe ,breckans are their biggest threats, kilmurry look all over the place at the moment



  • Registered Users Posts: 588 ✭✭✭Treble double


    Have seen only about 25% of the games but I'd guess the standard is on a par with the other div 2 level counties. All the teams that qualified from the group stages are in peak physical shape and well conditioned. They are all more or less replicating a game plan implemented by county teams ie. Defending in big numbers and careful in possession when countering, working the ball through the hands and probing for openings or frees, not great spectacles but that's the way all field sports are gone because all teams are coached within an inch of their lives now, soccer, rugby and hurling are the same mostly poor spectacles apart from the odd game.

    Dermot Coughlan, the Cahills from Corofin, Joe McGann, Brendy Rouine, Gary Brennan, Enda Ralph, Cormac Murray are some of the stand out performers I have seen outside of Eire Og. Eire Og have county men in every line if they keep it steady I think they will win the championship at a canter.

    I think we are producing more top quality players in the county now than we ever produced but that probably relates to more time given over to training and coaching and young lads more into personal fitness in the present day.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 588 ✭✭✭Treble double


    In my opinion if your are to raise Clare football another level you have to adopt the Kerry championship structure. There should be definitely no more than 8 senior football clubs in Clare. So you have your 8 strong club teams and then have four divisional teams. North Clare, South Clare, East Clare and West Clare. You would have a real high standard championship then and would also improve the intermediate and Junior ranks plus giving every player in the county who is good enough a chance to play senior championship.

    The former football strongholds in West Clare are fading fast due to lack of numbers. Kilkee are junior. Cooraclare and Kilrush intermediate and Doonbeg, Miltown and Kilmihil are in the relegation playoffs this year. They can't compete with the big population bases of Ennis, Barefield, Cratloe (who are basically picking from a of East Clare and beyond) Ennistymon who have a massive catchment area including Inagh, Kilnamona and Lahinch. Clondegead which is a hugely populated commuter belt area. Lissycasey another highly populated commuter belt area.

    Kilmurry Ibrickane and Breckans are probably the exceptions, but the age profile of the Kilmurry team is shockingly high and the future isn't too rosy for them, I'm not sure how Breckans are so competitive possibly a good cycle of players at the moment.

    But to drive Clare football on this model is the way forward, not a hope it will happen though



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,382 ✭✭✭Gael85


    Don't think possible to implement Kerry structure in Clare football as it dual county. Amalgamations like Western Gaels and Kilballyowen didn't work out as lads were playing two 2 games in a weekend.



  • Registered Users Posts: 588 ✭✭✭Treble double


    You are probably right and that is why we will never compete at top 8 level in inter county football.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭Figerty


    Average standard of club players has to be raised to have a better senior team. That starts at 14 years of age. I can't say I know what is happening at underage football but today's seniors aren't going to improve much more than they are, but the underage is the only way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,382 ✭✭✭Gael85


    Think needs to be more games at underage u14 to minor particular for clubs in west Clare as majority wouldn't play any other sport other than football. It pity no full size astro pitches for teams to play/train particularly when weather is bad.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 588 ✭✭✭Treble double


    I might be wrong but anecdotally I hear that West Clare kids are playing multiple sports now to the possible detriment of football, a big amount playing hurling and on county hurling development squads and a lot in academy rugby squads as well. This was unheard of 20 years ago but parents are ferrying kids big distances now for sport. I'm not saying that this as a negative, its brilliant to give kids opportunities but Football is not the be all and end all it was in West Clare in the past.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭PeggyShippen


    What rugby academies? There isnt one A.I.L club in Clare. Are parents ferrying the kids into Limerick? That's some commitment.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,252 ✭✭✭Sterling Archer


    All Star nominees

    Football - Eoin Cleary

    Hurling - Paul Flanagan, Diarmuid Ryan, David McInerney, John Conlon, David Fitzgerald, Ryan Taylor, Tony Kelly and Shane O Donnell



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,252 ✭✭✭Sterling Archer


    Senior weekend fixtures

    Saturday

    Sixmilebridge v Clonlara

    Senior Hurling Championship Gp 1 Rd 5

    Shannon 2:30 PM

    Feakle v Whitegate

    Senior Hurling Championship Gp 1 Rd 5

    Tulla 5:00 PM


    Sunday

    Áth Leathan v Clarecastle

    Senior Hurling Championship Gp 2 Rd 5

    Cusack Park 3:00 PM

    Cratloe v O'Callaghans Mills

    Senior Hurling Championship Gp 2 Rd 5

    Sixmilebridge 5:30 PM


    It may not fill the place but this a really nice thing to see happening

    Clonbony Hurling v Kilkee/Bealaha

    Junior C Hurling Champ Semi Final

    Cusack Park 5:00 PM Sunday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭PeggyShippen


    Senior hurling championship has been a slow burner so far. Hopefully the knock out stage will be more of a barnburner .

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,353 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    Is there much / anything at stake this weekend? In the senior hurling



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,353 ✭✭✭keeponhurling



    Do players value being nominated, or only if they win an All Star ?

    Realistically we’ll win none in football and three maybes in hurling (TK, SOD and D.Fitz). At a stretch D.McInerney.

    do the others all travel to Dublin for a ceremony or what, and is it considered a perk or a chore for them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,124 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    The only thing at stake was the broadford v clarecastle match where the winners were safe and the loser into the relegation


    It was a huge win for the south east Clare side in fairness, but not the greatest of games

    The magpies play whitegate Saturday week in tulla with the loser going down to intermediate

    The following day at the same venue Smith O'Brien's face scariff in the other relegation decider ,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,124 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Football defenitly so , the first two Clare players in that code to get nominated were from my own club back in the 70s or early 80s which is still very much recognised within the parish neither won one Noel Roche won Clare's first in 84 I think


    I imagine at club level it's seen as a huge achievement but not the same as football given how much stronger the county is in hurling, Kelly should get one again which will cement his legendary status within the county don't think any of the 90s lads won 3 all stars in a row

    As for the others David fitz had a great campaign, his shooting was terrible in the semi final though so that game might go against him , it would be great if o Donnell won another especially after his injury



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,252 ✭✭✭Sterling Archer


    Clares only Football All-Star is Seamus Clancy

    I always thought Loughnane won our First All-Star


    Or did you mean Roche won our First Football nomination? that man deserved an All Star



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,124 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    No the first Clare footballers to get nominated were TJ Murphy Barry Murphys father (Scariff ) in 1977 three years later Martin Murphy was nominated cratloes Martin oigie Murphys father both were from kilmihil


    Roche didn't win one sorry was sure he did at some point all of this was before my time


    They were the first football nominations ,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,353 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    So the hurling quarterfinal draw was made

    Eire Og v Inagh Kilnamona

    Cratloe v Newmarket

    Sixmilebridge v Wolfe Tones

    Ballyea v Clooney Quin



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,252 ✭✭✭Sterling Archer


    Weekends Senior Fixtures


    Saturday

    Doonbeg V St Joseph's Miltown Malbay

    Senior Football Championship Relegation Playoff

    Cooraclare 6:00 PM

    Loser plays Kilmihil (Given the kind of by) to decide who is relegate


    Sunday

    Clondegad V St Joseph's Doora Barefield

    Senior Football Championship Playoff

    Cusack Park 3:00 PM

    Winner joins Corofin as a 3rd place team in the Quarter finals



  • Registered Users Posts: 676 ✭✭✭supernova5


    my predictions,

    Eire Og by 2 to 4 points

    Cratloe by 4

    Bridge by 8 to 11 points

    Ballyea by 3



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,124 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    If there's an upset to take place I would give Clooney a huge shout against ballyea


    Ballyea have been very much below par through out the group stage, and while they had all there work done by the cratloe game they were still poor enough at times in the mills, broadford and especially clarecastle games

    Clooney have been fairly decent in there performances up to now and we're impressive in the early rounds



  • Registered Users Posts: 676 ✭✭✭supernova5


    totally agree with that assessment WSH



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,124 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    One senior football game today and a big surprise in the intermediate championship are the main talking points after todays action

    , Doonbeg v miltown , tubridy v cleary in the relegation semi final , was a cracker over 60 minutes both players and teams didn't disappoint , doonbeg pulled away in extra time and for the first time in years the future looks very bright for the long village , darragh burns had a super championship for the magpies he is definatly one to watch in the coming years , they are starting to build again underage and they are learning all the old doonbeg tricks as they go along of ruffing up the opposition , time wasting fouling in the right areas , diving if needed ect... and like all good doonbeg teams of the past a really good forward line to finish things off

    miltown on the other hand are in trouble , kilmihil might be one of the weaker teams this year in senior but if they preform like they have tonight and over the last 3 rounds they are in serious trouble

    huge win for ennistymons 2nd team as they saw off many peoples favorites wolfe tones in the intermediate championship , tones never got out of the blocks in the first half and were 9 points down , between billy connors and dathi lohan it looked like the comback was on when they got it back to 3 points with ten minutes to go but they failed to score after wards , beno take a bow , the man behind the seceans in the clare football development squads has done wonders with this side ,

    in the junior A championship Kilkee saw off Eire og (2) and liscannor saw off Lissycasey (2) to qualify to the semi finals of the championship



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭PeggyShippen


    Wolfe Tones traditionally give Sixmilebridge tough games. Its kind of a Derby game and there wouldnt be a fear factor there.Id give them an outside chance here . Sixmilebridge have very little coming through underage which is so unusual. The players just aren't there by all accounts. That Wolfe Tones underage is just about getting its act together after a horrible 20 years is a good sign but how they let it slip needs a book to be written with fine facilities and a big population. Dont give me the 'urban ' excuses when Na Piarsaigh in the road can churn out team after team whilst surrounded by AIL rugby clubs and junior soccer ..

    Ballyea I haven't seen this year but even though they are county champions (fine champions) they are limited. Some of their players have glaring deficiencies which good teams will expose . Hard to know if Clare has those good teams at the moment. The likes of Na Piarsaigh or Ballygunnar would thump Ballyea.

    Eire Og are the great 'sleeping giants' (in their own estimations) who fail every year. They ll find a way to lose again even though they have some excellent players in all lines. Inagh really do need this win aswell. I couldn't call it.

    Cratloe should win. They are talented and play great stuff. Newmarket are out performing themselves. Cratloe to win but then struggle because of the dual commitments.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,124 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Results:

    SFC play-off Clondegad 1 - 15 D/Barefield 0 - 08

    Intermediate Quarter-finals:

    Cooraclare 0 - 12 Naomh Eoin 1 - 06

    Kildysart 0 - 13 Shannon Gaels 0 - 13 AET

    Kildysart win 5-4 on Penalties

    O'Currys 3 - 12 Kilrush Shamrocks 3 - 09

    Inter Rel play-off: Kilfenora: 0 – 11 Coolmeen: 0 - 09

    Junior A Quarter-finals

    KIB: 2 – 11 Breckans 1 – 06

    Liscannor 1 – 09 Lissycasey 0 – 10

    Killimer 4 - 14 Clondegad 1 - 11


    Clondegad look a new team this year have been very competitive all year , gary brennan on form they will be a dangerous side to meet in tomorrows 1/4 final draw , barefield never got going , a young and promising team in there own right , they will build on this year i think


    intermediate: Kildysart were pushed all the way to sudden death in penalties by there neighbors and rivals shannon gaels , 5-4 it finished on penalties after the sides couldnt be separated after 70 minutes of football, O'Currys recorded an impressive win over kilrush to book a semi final spot , favorites Cooraclare were anything but impressive against a tough and dogged naomh eoin side

    the junior semifinals will be contested by , kilkee, kilmurry ibk (2) , liscannor and kilimer after the weekends action



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,124 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    I think sixmilebridge will get over tones handy enough, they have been very impressive so far

    I couldn't call the inagh/k v townies game too close to call , Eire og had a fine win against Clooney to get to this point so I give them the nod

    I have been impressed with some of the young lads Clooney have introduced, I fancy them for the upset against ballyea especially if duggan is on form


    Cratloe are every bit as dangerous as the bridge plus they have had a good break over the last 3 weeks, I think they will be there or there abouts



  • Registered Users Posts: 676 ✭✭✭supernova5


    Cusack Park looks so out-dated and drab



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,124 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    It also lacks atmosphere, they really need to upgrade the river side stand and have it seated


    As I say the atmosphere is nothing there as it is in cooraclare or Doonbeg in football or tulla or the bridge in hurling



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,019 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    The park is a disgrace in my opinion, it's so drab and dreary, unless it's a packed house there's no atmosphere there, but it is what we have so we'll have to get used to it. It's only when you see the likes of Nolan Park on TV that you realise how bad our facilities are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,252 ✭✭✭Sterling Archer


    Sat 24th Sep 22

    Cratloe v Newmarket on Fergus - Clare Gaa TV

    Senior Hurling Championship Qtr Final

    Cusack Park 3:00 PM


    Whitegate v Clarecastle

    Senior Hurling Championship Playoff

    Tulla 5:00 PM


    Sixmilebridge v Wolfe Tones S. - Clare Gaa TV

    Senior Hurling Championship Qtr Final

    Cusack Park 5:00 PM


    Sun 25th Sep 22

    Ballyea v Clooney Quin - Clare Gaa TV

    Senior Hurling Championship Qtr Final

    Cusack Park 12:00 PM


    Scariff v Smith O'Brien

    Senior Hurling Championship Playoff

    Tulla 1:00 PM


    Inagh-Kilnamona v Éire Óg Ennis - Live on TG4

    Senior Hurling Championship Qtr Final

    Cusack Park 2:30 PM



    Note the change of venue for games originally down for sixmilebridge



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,353 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    Inagh-Kilnamona v Éire Óg Ennis - Live on TG4!

    live on TG4, fair play



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,124 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    i still think the best game they could have picked is the cloony quin game, with the emergence of what a promising young team , plus the tony kelly v ryan taylor , peter duggan v deasy factor it probably will be a better game

    not impressed with what i have seen from inagh/k this year , i imagine eire og will win but o donnell is obviously going to be key to that

    Clare gaa tv have an excellent line up of games this weekend too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,252 ✭✭✭Sterling Archer


    They'll most likely record that for highlights



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,124 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Best game of the day was played out in tulla as Clarecastle overcame Whitegate to secure their senior status for next season , they had cian broadrick to thank for with 5 or 6 point blank saves , Whitegate were spirted as always but with two teams going down they were behind the 8 ball from the word go as regards relegation is concerned , they will be strong in intermediate next year though

    Sixmilebridge are through to the semi final without too much asked of them against a limited Wolfe tones performance , the shannon men had a few injuries but were never in this , made a decent fight back in the middle of the second half when the game was all but over , jamie shannahan , seadna morey excellent for the winners

    Jamie Shanahan (0-13, 8f);

    Shane Golden (1-3);

    David Kennedy, (1-1)

    Seadna Morey (1-1 );

    Caimin Morey (0-2, 1f);

    Brian Corry,0-1

    Evan McInerney0-1

    Rian Considine put in a huge display as cratloe impressively saw off a gutsy newmarket performance today , after a controlled start the blues forged back in the second half setting up a grandstand finish before the afore mentioned Considine scored a rasper of a goal before setting up sean gallagher to see off the blues late on , colin ryan pitched in with a late penilty but the game was probably out of newmarkets reach by then , diarmuid ryan , rian considine ,conor mccgrath and shane gleeson all excellent for the winners

    both sixmilebridge and cratloe have been the front runners in the championship this year , unless they meet each other in the next round its hard to see them being separated from a county final showdown best two teams in the county at the moment

     Rian Considine (1-8, 3f, 3’65);

    Cathal McInerney, (0-3)

    Shane Gleeson,(0-3)

    Diarmuid Ryan (0-3;

    Sean Gallagher (1-0);

    Podge Collins, (0-2)

    Conor McGrath (0-2 );

    Daithi Collins,(0-1)

    Shane Neville (0-1 )




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,973 ✭✭✭Jizique


    9 point win for Ballyea, sounds comprehensive



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,353 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    What a display by Shane O'Donnell, think he has 1-7 all from play by half time

    On his day he really is unmarkable



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,893 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Teams/benches hardly available anywhere? Thanks!



  • Registered Users Posts: 676 ✭✭✭supernova5


    jesus this must be very bad for Jason McCarthy, play already held up for 20 minutes



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,353 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    Looked like he landed very awkwardly on his left leg



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,252 ✭✭✭Sterling Archer


    Best wishes to Jason, looks like a bad break

    Almost 50 minutes to get an ambulance when we have a hospital 2km away is crazy, 20 minutes for the rapid response also..


    Always a joke that no procedure is put in place to have the red cross or civil defence at quarter finals onwards

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,124 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    happened a tipperary footballer a few years ago too , got injured and had to wait 45 minutes for one , we always had somthing in place 20 years ago how come we have nothing in place now , there was only a hand full of games on today as you said why not have an order of malta ambulance on stand by for both games or say the civil defense ,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,124 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Starting with relegation , mark rodgers many of us belive him to be the Aire to tony kellys throne someday . today his tony kelly esc performance was more then enough for scariff to avoid the drop , a 25 point win in the end , with rodgers scoring 4-12 , his 2nd and 3rd goals were somthing to behold

    i feel sorry for the smiths , they brought great excitement to this years championship , its a shame 2 had to go down this year they have some excellent individual players to be fair would love to see them bounce back up , today was a day to forget

    highlights of yesterdays relegation final,




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,124 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Eire og stormed past inagh/k with a first half blitz , goals from danny russell and shane odonnell had the townies in cruise control , jason mccarthys injury took the sting out of the game as he had to wait 50 minutes on the field for an ambulance we all wish him a speedy recovery , it looked a fairly nasty injury

    Ballyea eventually saw off a brave clooney quin challange in the other 1/4 final today , an early second half tony kelly penalty put 6 points between the sides , ballyeas game management kicked in and held off the young cloony side point for point from there on , the game petered out into a free taking contest late on , the 4 beat teams of the championship are through the the semi finals , its anyones from here out ,kelly with 1-7 and deasy with 7 points the holders will take stopping i feel





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭Figerty


    I think there was proper medical attention available at the match. it may have been a team doctor but it seemed to be under control when the paramedic arrived. He parked the car and seemed to be comfortable with what he saw. Someone made the call not to move McCarty given the nature of the injury. I would presume, and I am not sure, that there was a medic there on site.

    The question has to be why an ambulance took so long to come. Was it parked at base a mile away? That's more worrying.



  • Registered Users Posts: 588 ✭✭✭Treble double


    Horrible injury for Jason Mccarthy, hope the recovery goes well, tough on the brother too who has only recently recovered from a serious leg jnjury. The game was insignificant after that.

    I think in this day and age we always need to blame someone when something goes wrong. I presume the decision was made not to move him untill an ambulance came, the ambulance took a long time, but that is an every day reality, not virtual reality where most people are living.

    I don't think the delay is going to aggravate the injury and I assume he was well medically supervised until the ambulance arrived. I think those in attendance will also survive the delay



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