Clare GAA Discussion - 2024 All Ireland Hurling Champions

Treble double

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Ya very poor from Eire Og today just didn't perform. Did things they never usually do like coughing up possession and poor shot selection. Even at that the game was there for the taking but some of the finishing was poor. Einne O Connor, Manus Doherty, Ciaran Russell gave it everything but they will be kicking themselves for not performing when it was there for them. O'Rahillys supporters should take a long hard look at themselves too, there must be an unwritten rule that a Kerry inter county player can't be sent off. Their reaction was way over the top.

keeponhurling

Worrying.

Eire Og are Clare's best team by a distance.

And they still couldn't beat a 14-man Kerry side who hadn't played in months (and are far from the best Kerry side).

Shows the gulf in standard. 1-8 won't win many matches.

Treble double

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Nothing worrying about it O'Rahillys are a top 8 club in Kerry and that's fact because there are only 8 senior teams in Kerry. Its a big county and football dominates and is played in every inch of it. Compare that to Clare which isn't as big and where football isn't played in large swathes of the county. That's the reality.

On top of that Eire Og saved their worst performance of the year for yesterday's game and even at that if they tidied up their shooting they would have won it.

I hate the way we put Kerry up on a pedestal here, they are successful because of the sheer numbers they have playing the game, its as simple as that. No need for us to put them up on a pedestal because their supporters are arrogant enough to do that.

If the whole County of Clare played Football and nothing else we would have plenty of success at it too.

Clareman

In every game Eire Og sat back at the start to see what their opponents were going to do and adjusted, because of the quality of the opposition they got away with it and having 2 forwards allowed them to win most games easily, this isn't a slight on Eire Og more its a reflection on the opposition. Yesterday they conceded 1 1 at the start of the first half and 3 points at the start of the second,they could have recovered but they didn't.

Treble double

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Ya, I felt yesterday when they conceded the early goal they were goosed because they hadn't conceded a goal all year. It rattled them and they weren't as sure of themselves defensively or on the ball after that. It's not the first time this has happened them, they conceded a soft goal against the Barrs last year and it derailed them aswell.

I agree that they are very cagey in the first half of games and also feel outside of Cooney and McInerney they lack firepower. McInerney was poor yesterday.

It's up to other clubs in Clare now to exploit those weaknesses and topple them or else it's up to Ennis to address those issues, uncover more firepower and have a real crack at Munster.

Clareman

The state of club football in Clare is very worrying, Eire Og are miles ahead of everyone else and that's with them missing a load of players and getting to both finals.

Treble double

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I don't see that, club game has changed big population bases are dominating clubs in the west of the county not as strong but the clubs with numbers are stepping up.

Clubs like Ennistymon, Corofin, Clondegad. Other clubs in the county will have learnt from yesterday and will treat the townies with less respect next year and have a cut at them.

Clareman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119930600#Comment_119930600

Almost every team in Clare setup to stop the opposition, not setup to win themselves, Eire Og are lucky because they have 2 forwards, Corofin scored 3 points against them in the semi final.

Treble double

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That's a coaching issue rather than a player issue. I think there is as good players as ever was in the county at present.

The easiest thing for a coach to do is set up defensively. It takes imagination and know how to have an attacking gameplan, it also risky.

There are alot of bluffers out there coaching teams picking up a few bob and defensive coaching rules because it is simple and safe.

Gael85

Eire Og will have Dean Ryan and Conal O'hAinifein back next but both are defenders but definitely need more firepower to compete outside of Clare. Lads like Eimhim Courtney, Paddy O'Malley and Davy O'Halloran not involved this year would have been good lads to take a score.

PeggyShippen

I thought Ballyea did very well overall. They were much tighter with their touch. A few important misses and then suddenly Ballygunner were 5 or 6 ahead,game over. Kelly's free taking was obviously poor in that second half but they missed a goal chance aswell. They needed everything . Ultimately they can hold their heads high. Ballygunner have some excellent hurlers and no bad ones. Their vision and touch is unreal and they can all take a point...all of them. I think they ll beat Ballyhale.

roashter

Kelly was excellent today, but today again proved that he is not an inter county free taker .

Lohan needs to ensure he has someone other than Kelly taking frees and let Kelly concentrate on being what he is great at

Billy Ocean

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Yeah they competited better than I expected, given they ground it out in Clare championship and were lucky enough against the barrs in my opinion i feared for Ballyea prior to today but they gave it everything and died with their boots on. Patrick Fitzgerald looks like he's going to be some player too,

windy shepard henderson

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another nonsense post , 4 kerry all ireland winners on the local team , all your talk of limerick rugby and lack of it in clare and you fail to spot a serios munster prospect in the making agin because of your love of controversy

i admit when it comes to intercounty hurling you have some idea of what your talking about but after that its just nonsense of the highst regard pure stupidity

windy shepard henderson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119953106#Comment_119953106

you know your stuff in terms of hurling but dont ruin this page again with your thoughts on football you have no clue in that department stop wasting our time , local rugby also falls into that catogry , you have little to no knowledge of the grass roots game either

PeggyShippen

Thank you for your kind words on my hurling Knowledge.

Gael85

David Tubridy retired.

https://www.clareecho.ie/david-tubridy-calls-time-on-inter-county-career/

Treble double

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Up there as one of the best forwards to ever represent Clare. 15 years service, top scorer in National Leauge football, supreme placed ball merchant, such a sweet striker of a football, a major reason why Clare have been competing at division 2 level for the last 6 or 7 years, is respected as a top forward countrywide.

Treble double

Kevin Hartnett and Sean Collins have also called it a day.

Hartnett was some operator, full back or corner back, he gave no one an inch, a few former opposing forwards have named him as their toughest opponent.

Collins was a panelist with the all Ireland winning hurlers in 2013 and has an all Ireland u21 hurling medal to boot, committed to the footballers in 2014 and was a workaholic of a player either as a halfback or as a defensive half forward. Gave stalwart service to the saffron and blue.

windy shepard henderson

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hartnett and gordon kellys defending should be our own bench mark in how to play corner back espiacally ,their timing was excellent

sean was so unlucky in 2013 , he missed out in an all ireland through injury , and was a major part of his fathers success since

as for tubridy , one of the nicest lads you could meet , i consider him a better forward then ger keane or martin daly , the leval of individual talent we produced over the last 15 years in both codes has been sensational at times but this fella is probably one of , if not the best footballer we have ever produced in my opinion

windy shepard henderson

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apologies but i cant just stand idle by at several jibes on clare football i am a west clare man after all , we might not be great but we take it to heart 😉, happy new year my man and hears to a better year for the hurlers in 2023 we are not far away ...

PeggyShippen

No jibes from here on Clare Football. They plough a lonely furrow and do a great job woth very limited resources. Not alone that but some of the best Hurling supporters I come across are West Clare people. They are resolute and steadfast..we can be abit flakey back east

keeponhurling

Any updates from the hurling camp about the squad for 2023?

New lads called in, or any leavers/retirements.

We play Tipp on Sunday in the Munster League, and then Waterford the following Sunday, so we'll find out then at least.

opinionated3

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Heard a few have been let go from the panel, golden and paidi Fitz among them

PeggyShippen

Thank God. Paidi Fitz should never had.been on the panel in the first place. Golden has given some service over the years. Never really nailed down a place or delivered consistently.

keeponhurling

The curious case of Paidi Fitz.

Not given a minute on the league or championship last year, except when selected to start the All-Ireland semifinal.

Now cut from the panel.

keeponhurling

Clare’s full squad (v Tipp) is as follows:

1. Eamonn Foudy (Inagh-Kilnamona)

2. Adam Hogan (Feakle)

3. Conor Cleary (St Joseph’s Miltown) (Captain)

4. Cian Nolan (Smith O’Brien’s)

5. Brandon O’Connell (Ballyea)

6. Darragh Lohan (Wolfe Tones)

7. Cian Galvin (Clarecastle)

8. Paddy Donnellan (Broadford)

9. Seadna Morey (Sixmilebridge)

10. Patrick Crotty (Scariff)

11. Davy Conroy (St Joseph’s Doora/Barefield)

12. Peter Duggan (Clooney-Quin)

13. Mark Rodgers (Scariff)

14. Aidan McCarthy (Inagh-Kilnamona)

15. Ian Galvin (Clonlara)

16. Eibhear Quilligan (Feakle)

17. Gearoid O’Grady (Kilmihil)

18. John Conneally (Clooney-Quin)

19. Mike Gough (Smith O”Brien’s)

20. Oisin O’Donnell (Crusheen)

21. Robin Mounsey (Ruan)

22. Rory Hayes (Wolfe Tones)

23. Ryan Taylor (Clooney-Quin)

24. Aron Shanagher (Wolfe Tones)

25. Diarmuid Ryan (Cratloe)

26. David Fitzgerald (Inagh-Kilnamona)

keeponhurling

That’s a serious squad, when you consider we have many players to come back.

in the forwards TK, SOD and Meehan. The likes of Flanagan or McInerney in the backs.

I wonder will John Conlon feature/start this year. Interesting to see Lohan named at 6.

goalie has been a bit of a problem position for us, interested to see if Foudy or somebody else can claim the spot. (Not that I’d give up on Quilligan either, he has his strengths)

PeggyShippen

Interesting and exciting line up for today's game. Good to see Morey back in probably the only position that really suits his skillset.

I must admit I haven't seen Foudy or the Feakle corner back. Iv seen Conroy once. Lohan centre back is interesting. Hard to see that working because of his size but he's a good ball player. Peter Duggan is in his best position and I hole he just concentrates on his hurling and forgets about being angry and throwing himself around. He's totally unsuited to playing an aggressive 'Hegarty type' game. Duggan is a potential scoring machine if given abit of space and playing with a smile rather than a scowl.

Big yeah for the management aswell. They did very well in Munster overall and very badly in the All Ireland semi. Id like to see them make changes quicker..thats number 1. Number 2 id like to see slightly quicker ball going into the full forward line and I don't want to see Duggan in there.

callaway92

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Have seen the Feakle corner back for Mary I Freshers in bits and pieces this year but wasn’t set in stone at corner back. Nice hurler

PeggyShippen

Well that was poor after a bright first 10 mins. Any long ball in just went straight through the centre back line. Clare were terrible in the air or even stopping the ball going through. Nolan was roasted in the corner but the other two ,Hogan and Cleary did ok ish. Tipp must have had 10 goal chances. I know it's Clares first game of tbe year and the result isn't the issue. The performance was poor. No game plan that I could see. You could see Tipperary had a plan..The usual Liam Cahill running game. I dont see it doing much damage against Limerick but ut was effective today against the terrible half backs of Clare. Clares forwards were poor aswell. All individuals, no interplay . There were some good scores from Rogers and aidan McCarthy but both are individual types..There isn't any of the desire to link up like a Seamus Flanagan has. They are greedy. Duggan on the frees was like a young Giraffee attempting to swing its head ..comedy at times. 4 missed. Get Rogers on the frees . Overall a poor first effort. Things can only get better but im having serious doubts about the pattern im seeing. There's no gameplan or pattern of play.

Billy Ocean

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Don't understand why anyone gets overly worked up over results or performances this time of year, given your a Limerick supporter when it suits you last year must have hammered this home.

keeponhurling

Good to see Rodgers and A.McCarthy back hurling for Clare, could be a big year for those two

Patrick Crotty also one to watch.

PeggyShippen

Crotty, Mounsey ,Rodgers..all the forwards can take a score very well. I'm just just not sure if the interplay is there. It might come,early days. It's the backs that are the main issue. John Conlon is irreplaceable at centre back. Hogan looks very good ..very steady and calm.

fire_man

Any one at Clare v Cork today.Clare could struggle in Div 2 this year.I think we will struggle up front.

Treble double

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We are favourites to go down every year and are going in to our seventh year in Division 2 so wouldn't write us off, it will be an almighty struggle to survive as usual. Mcgrath cup is only glorified training, wouldn't take too much notice of results. We are only an injury or two away from a crisis in the forwards alright. Keelan Sexton will be carrying the burden there. Midfield is another position where we don't have many options.

windy shepard henderson

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https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1YpJkgeOdAjJj

highlights of the game today , glorified challenge game although cork did look fairly full strength

i agree we need the fringe players and new lads up front to start contributing more its the same players all the time , keelan scored 0-3 points , cleary 0-2 , 0-1 point for jamie malone before going off injured 0-1 point for his replacement pearse lillis , and one for podge who came off the bench

despite kicking 3 points keelan must have kicked 4 wides from play and bad ones at that , we kicked 0-3 points from play to corks 2-07 , we kicked 6 shots short and a further 8 wides from play

need to see a huge improvement from gavin cooney , aaron griffin , ciaran downes , even dermot coughlin and daniel walsh , its time now for these players to step up or be dropped at this stage a lot lot more is required ,

in terms of the league , i wouldn't fear cork if we are full strength epically at the back, the team we had out was a mixed bag , when we are full tilt we will do enough to hopefully gain a top 4/5 position in division 2 given us a deaccent shot of staying in the all ireland series and avoid the tailtainn cup . louth , limerick , cork ,kildare and meath are all teams we have beaten in the past so we should have no fear against them

windy shepard henderson

https://twitter.com/MunsterGAA/status/1614676218531528704

good work out in the park before the start of the league in 3 weeks time , keith smyth , Davey Conroy , and paddy Donnellan laid down markers for places on the squad with impressive showings this afternoon , Gearoid O’Grady and Jack Kirwin also put down markers for a place in the league panel with good hard working cameos

eamon foudy looks the part between the sticks , his puckouts look sharp , and the tipp game last week showed him to be a really good shot stopper , much better performance today from brandon o connell , a player with real potential at this level , good to see mikey gough and john coneeley get runs out two , two really good young players for the future

arron shanagher had 2 shots on goal , scored 1-1 , mark rodgers chiped in with 0-4 from play , aidan mccarthy notched over 8 frees and two from play in peter Duggan's absence , david mc at 6 shored up the gaps exposed by tipperary last week also .

strangely enough waterford made little effort in attack down the straight they now miss out on a place in the final next week which surly would have been a help to there development before the league

Treble double

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Will have to take 4 points from Louth and Limerick both at home I think.

Dublin and Derry are away, so we will get nothing there.

Then you have Meath, Kildare and Cork all tough games but if we could pick up 2 points there somewhere it would give us 6 points which would be enough yo stay up most years

Points will be hard to come by. Limerick under new management and buoyant after promotion. Louth have Mickey Harte in charge and will be no mugs. Meath looking to bigger things with Colm O Rourke, Kildare also want Div 1 football with Glenn Ryan in charge. Cork I think will surprise a few people this year and will take a few scalps in div 2.

It will be a bear pit as usual, if we don't pick up too many injuries we could survive.

Leauge is a great competition, couldn't give a fiddlers about the championship that's only for the Kerrys and Dublins of this world.

windy shepard henderson

Kilmihil/Shannon Gaels will enter as an amalgamation in the senior championship this year, both will play as normal intermediate

Gael85

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120133986#Comment_120133986

Is that the only amalgamation for senior championship? Naomh Eoin/O'Currys/Kilkee didn't work as lads had to play two championship games on same weekend.

windy shepard henderson

Senior , then play the next day intermediate, or when ever

They will be training together through out the year though as one team I am led to believe, so it sounds like they are going to take senior seriously

You would imagine they would be putting less influence on the intermediate championship ,

hey have been together for years at underage so in terms of training, not much is changing for most players

I am not sure if the two clubs want to join up as one just yet , plus it would require 75% approval from both clubs members to go through , this makes sense , no relegation from senior, we got relegated last year , Gaels missed out narrowly on promotion

Treble double

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Are Coolmeen not coming in with this amalgamation aswell?

This is just a natural progression for rural clubs, the sad reality is that the playing numbers aren't there anymore. Not much that can be done at training with 6 or 7 players with two or three clubs coming together there would be 20+ to work with.

The county board need to back this and not have the clubs involved playing two championships games on the same weekend, they gave no backing to the peninsula amalgamation a few years ago

The days of a rural club in West Clare winning a senior football championship is almost a thing of the past. To compete with the big population bases I think it is now time we adopted the Kerry model and had 8 senior clubs and then had four Divisonal teams North Clare, South Clare, East Clare and West Clare. This would benefit the County team, make the Intermediate and Junior championships a lot stronger and give every footballer in the county worth his salt a chance to play senior championship.

windy shepard henderson

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now adays every young lad goes to collage then travel for a year , or head abroad fro work for a number of years , and it disrupts progression from underage to senior , plus the numbers are down population wise in the last 15 years , every now and then a plan b is needed

i dont think it will last forever but it is going to be a feature of the next ten years at least in clare , so it makes sense if clubs want to survive and weather the storm

not sure where coolmeen stand at the moment ,the board need back it but also provide more game weeks for players to get a break , the group games would have to go in my opinion and the championship revert back to the way it was run up until 2018 and a more knock out basis

GalwayMark

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Being a Galway man all the great hurling clubs such as Tynagh/Abbey-Duniry, Kiltormer, Ballygar, quite frankly looking at this from the northern border it does seem inevitable the GAA will have to pull the finger out and come out with a special plan for rural areas that aren't within the radius of their urban counterparts which can be frankly a lot more difficult for a remote area such as West Clare, even Kerry clubs are struggling hence the use of their divisional outfits to keep football standards really high.

P.S. Accidentally clicked the multi-quote button hence the response on this thread mea culpa.

PeggyShippen

The template is there in Kerry and Cork. There's great pride I'm their divisions, especially Kerry. I think Clare could work with 4 divisions. It would take a fair degree of work and alot of buy in. Anything is better than these amalgamations of 3 and 4 clubs for a period and then it falls apart. With the divisions you'd have secure clubs confident they'd survive as stand alone entities but players have the chance to play higher levels. It's so Dumb that the Kilkee 'peninsula' amalgamation didn't work out.

funnyname

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It would need support from the board re fixtures not clashing and also money to help deal with the extra costs incurred with running an amalgamation, it's a big win for the county team to have players playing at a higher level.

Gael85

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Was a big ask for the lads to play two championship games on same weekend. Clare also has a lot of dual players with football and hurling so they a few very weekends to play additional championship games. kerry don't have to worry about hurling and can run off club championships before the county championship.

windy shepard henderson

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it depends on how many players are playing two games in a row , if say coolmeen can offer 3 players to the starting 15 then kilmihil and the gaels will only need to use 6 players each for the senior game both teams resting 9 , if you only have 2 teams amalgamated both teams would be using half their first team before any subs are used

i think one game in 2019 o currys used 13 players between starters and subs for the westeran gaels , then had to play the next day intermediate

i dont think the kerry intermediate or junior chapionships are group stage , so there are less games , but they do this in cork too in both codes , duhallow in football and imokilly in hurling both won county titles in the last number of years , duhallow from the kanturk area had a lot of hurlers on it at the time , i hope it works out here

Gael85

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Would Killimer not go in with them? kerry intermediate and junior have group stages.