Clare GAA Discussion - 2024 All Ireland Hurling Champions

Figerty

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120980189#Comment_120980189

Butchered would be a better description

callaway92

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120983807#Comment_120983807

..and it was the same after the 1st round. Not really acceptable.

Sterling Archer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120983901#Comment_120983901

I've looked back at the unofficial ones posted here which are ripped from the streams and the official ones, they are exactly the same... very sloppy now that I am paying attention to them

windy shepard henderson

I think I am getting sent on edited ones that they are not going to use themselves anyway not sure

A mate of mine sends them on to me , he gets them from one of the lads that are on the team of editing and recording

I see no difference from any of them, they sometimes show highlights of basically nothing within the game

I am not sure waiting until Tuesday to put them up online is a good idea when the same highlights appear here on Saturday or Sunday evening, maybe it's because they want lads to still buy the games , other counties like Tipperary or cork nearly have highlights up straight away after games

Only thing I would say is the streaming has been a blessing several times over the last few years when I have been away or caught for work and couldn't make the games themselves

callaway92

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120985375#Comment_120985375

Ya it’s still nice to have highlights to some extent to be fair.

But fecking Vimeo. Can’t even put it on the TV. Just do YouTube like everyone else

Clareman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120985777#Comment_120985777

YouTube have locked down a lot of features now and is making it a lot more difficult for content creators so a lot of video people are moving to Vimeo.

Sterling Archer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120985375#Comment_120985375

Haha that narrows down his source .. we give out because we care really, I suppose we could always just reply and ask on twitter for improvements

Pandering_Peter

Hello Boards.

Some big games this weekend for the big ball lads, should be a good weekend of games.

I can't comment on the streaming as I bought the season pass and have been making the best of use out of it, but I have only see foudy and corry at games, haven't seen either colm or lohans camera guys at games, I think they were involved last year.

funnyname

Malone and Fitz only came on for Ennistymon at HT last night, I wonder is that because their hurling clubs only allow them to play 30 mins of football?

windy shepard henderson

Ennistymon must have had 5 or 6 missing from the starting team last year , with 3 teams coming out of the group they are almost guaranteed a place in the playoffs at worst

I don't think any inagh player started last night but a number came on as subs , I think they underestimated lissycasey more so then anything else

windy shepard henderson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120986851#Comment_120986851

I only came across these links over the last year or so, the Clare football link was a new one on me altogether, apparently a few clubs like cratloe had links up on their Facebook page for clare games that were not televised

I have also heard a number of pubs in west Clare were showing a number of league and championship games from them links

The quality is poor but a serious thing to have all the same, Jody o Connor I think was the camera man for them this year I think

Also If I remember right, back when Clare gaa started out streaming during COVID the had a far higher picture quality, but apparently not everyone had internet across the county to good enough to stream it, then again I heard the same with people watching gaa go this year

Gael85

Clare will be down a few players next year. Eoin Cleary and Pearse Lillis taking a year out. Cian O'Dea travelling and possibly Jame Malone might be gone too.

windy shepard henderson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121005264#Comment_121005264

i think you can add keelan sexton who is working in america for a year next year and ciaran russell is supposed to be calling it a day too , we have options to replace them but they are big losses if it happens , on a positive note , you have the likes of emmet mcmahon who was excellent this weekend , his club mate diarmuid o donnell also , philip talty from eire og is promising , brian mcnamara was voted u20 footballer of the year this year , cian mahoney miltown , daragh burns all young lads that could be seen as options to look at next year in division 3 , consolidation would be the minimum i imagine

windy shepard henderson

the most controversial part of the week , the crap highlights segment 😂

excellent win for kildysart over cratloe , emmet mcmahon was top class just back from the states ,

fine win for lissycasey friday night in the rain over ennistymon

townies are still the team to beat after their win over miltown

two injury time points keep clondegad in the mix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8iilIJ6ukc&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPKmtOt5qVQ&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gwTrSVEq2k&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJVioCE8hE8&feature=youtu.be

Sterling Archer

Clare GAA Twitter highlights came out last night, strange to see vimeo say the video was uploaded monday morning

Sterling Archer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121005426#Comment_121005426

There was always going to be a mass loss of lads when Collins went, so many lads were staying there just for him and loyal to him... and I wouldn't fault or stop anyone from taking a break or calling time on an intercounty career... It's not everything

Treble double

The likes of Donaghy won't touch the Clare job when they see the amount of established players not available next season, I don't think that is any harm, rumour is that only Aiden Moloney interested within the county.

Tough task for anyone who takes it on, the next generation are going to have to be blooded and that will lead to a couple of seasons of transition. Staying in Div 3 will be a major achievement in 24 and the Tailteann Cup will be a big competition for Clare for the next few seasons.

Sterling Archer

What a great appointment "Mulcahy appointed as Clare GAA’s first performance lead"

https://www.clareecho.ie/mulcahy-appointed-as-clare-gaas-first-performance-lead/

supernova5

Another fine mess in the Clare senior hurling championship coming just 12 months after that balls-up which led to the relegation controversy last year, jasus you couldn't make it up

opinionated3

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121028090#Comment_121028090

What's happening? SMB lost this evening but still got into the quarter finals via score difference?

Treble double

What mess? A team got knocked out, the rules are there in black and white, if people don't know about them they should educate themselves. Nothing to see here, but there is an element in Clare hurling circles that craves drama.

roashter

Yes, I don't think there is any mess as it's in the rules on how teams are separated when they finish level in points. It just looks like a lot of people/clubs weren't aware of it.

Looks like Crusheen are into quarter finals and Sixmilebridge go to senior B

supernova5

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121028198#Comment_121028198

where exactly did you hear that SMB are into the quarters?

opinionated3

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121029059#Comment_121029059

It was on their own Twitter account. I've seen the clarification since from Keiran Keating so no drama really

Sands81

I would agree that Crusheen go to quarter finals but looking at the rules and my interpretation would see Sixmilebride in relagation and the Mills into Senior B.

funnyname

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121029142#Comment_121029142

Your mixing two different rules to come up with that hypothesis, very funny!

Uncle Pierre

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121029035#Comment_121029035

Hope nobody minds an interloper from Wexford here :)

Read about the Sixmilebridge thing elsewhere, and popped in here to see what people might be saying about it. It looks black and white to me too. There's a different rule this year, and just because they maybe weren't aware of it, or don't like what it means for them, doesn't give them justifiable cause for appeal.

But just wondering if your County Board made any efforts to make sure people were in fact aware of it? For instance, the same rule applied in Wexford for the first time this year. In the week leading up to the final group games of our championships, all clubs got a detailed email about it, setting out exactly how it would apply.

An explanation was also included in a post on the Wexford GAA website (https://wexfordgaa.ie/club-hurling-championship-standings/), and this post was shared on Facebook and Twitter for the whole world to see, so that club supporters would know about it too.

In fairness to our crowd here, they're normally fairly good at this sort of thing. Did Clare do anything similar?

Sterling Archer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121037846#Comment_121037846

The rule change was communicated to clubs and if there is any club in Clare that know the rules it'd be Crusheen .. I don't believe there was any public communication or announcements...

The decision as far as I can see has been taken at face value by most Sixmilebridge people, there are still the few die hards throwing the toys out of the pram and as we have 3 weeks until the next round the belief (I'm told, possibly all pub talk tho) is that Sixmilebridge will probably lodge so kind of appeal based purely on principle.

Sterling Archer

Listening to clare fm.. Peter Duggan was Sick Thursday, Friday and Saturday, and even during the game... that unbelievable

Looks like we might have an imminent announcement re who will become Colm Collins' successor as the next Clare senior football manager. Rumours flying that Aiden "Horse" Moloney has got the gig, although there's been no official word on any official media channels. Other suggestions that I'm hearing also of either Kieren Donaghy or Mark Fitzgerald.

PeggyShippen

As a close follower of Sixmilebridge hurling there's a huge majority that want to take their medicine. The rules were there. There's a few noisey eejits that want to appeal and are pushing hard. As my father said ' Any year you lose to the 'Mills you don't deserve to remain in the County Championship' and I think we lost twice to them. That bridge teams management is dire and there's a culture of drinking that's become acceptable has never been in a Sixmilebridge set up before. Sixmilebridge has big problems. Tonnes of players but not that much talent right now. Some poor coaches and this 'culture ' of going out on the town together is alien enough to Sixmilebridge. There were great Bridge teams where fellas from different parts of the parish barely knew each other but were all business when it came to hurling. Management is dire in the club right now

Pogue eile

Appeal what exaclty Peggy, the rule is very clear.

Has anyone asked the Sixmilebridge deleagte who attended last years County Board AGM what way he voted?

Uncle Pierre

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121056483#Comment_121056483

The interloper from Wexford here again.

This was actually a rule change at National Congress in January, that applies across the board - Rule 6.21(5)(c) in Part 1 of this year's Rule Book, if anybody wants to look up.

Wouldn't necessarily have been discussed at Clare's Convention (i.e. AGM), but would surely have been dealt with at a January Co. Board meeting to decide how Clare would vote on Congress motions. Unfortunately however, nature of these things is that clubs often don't fully consider them first, and club delegates to Co. Board don't fully understand them.

For what it's worth, the rule does make provision for Clare (or any other county) to bring in their own bye-laws to return to overall scoring difference as the primary means of separating teams involved in a three-or-more-way tie. So it could be done that way for next year if your clubs wanted it to, but it can't be done retrospectively for this year.

Pogue eile

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121056655#Comment_121056655

Yes I am aware it applies accross the board, it was a club in Tipperary who put the motion in - the original intention was to mitigagte circuamstances where a walkover was given in a group thus messing up the score differences.

Whether it was convention or a regular county board meeting there would have been a delegate from Sixmilebridge there, saying that the delegate or indeed the club might not have understood the motion is completly irrelevant, thats literally their job!

My original question still applies, what are the grounds for an appeal? Ignorance of the rules?

windy shepard henderson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121053882#Comment_121053882

I was looking at the age profile of the team that played the mills last Friday night and the intermediate team on Saturday,

Surly it's time the bridge use their two squads better, especially for bringing through the younger lads,

They have loads of young players on the intermediate panel that were really good underage but never get a look in for the seniors

It seems to be a closed shop at the moment, last Friday could have been embarrassing for the bridge but for seadna and Cathal Malone

Uncle Pierre

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121056827#Comment_121056827

Okay. Was just clarifying the mechanics of how the rule came into being in the first place.

I'd say a delegate or a club not knowing, not understanding, or not remembering a motion or a rule change is unfortunate rather than irrelevant. Highly unfortunate that they didn't do what I agree is literally their job. But highly relevant when or if the time comes that they complain about it sometime later.

Anyway, I see absolutely no grounds for appeal here. To borrow a phrase from another sphere, ignorance of the law is no defence.

funnyname

Conor Ryan came on for Cratloe today, still a young man, would it be too much of a dream to think he could tog out for the Clare hurlers again?

keeponhurling

If you read this interview from a few years back , hard to imagine a return to inter county and all the demands that brings https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/the-doctor-told-me-my-body-was-broken-how-all-ireland-winner-conor-ryans-life-was-turned-upside-down/36537941.html

still though, curious how he gets on with Cratloe

fire_man

Anyone at Clondegad and Miltown game,what kind of standard was it?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121063541#Comment_121063541

Cormac Murray is worthy of a call up to Mark Fitzgeralds Clare team for next years league. He is very impressive, the Miltown man.

Overall the standard of Clare club football has reached new depths of despair. Lateral handpassing, a refusal to kick, any frees a team gets goes 20 yards backwards and 14 men behind the game. And poor attempts at scoring to make matters worse.

Yes Eire Og are the standard bearers but my goodness the game in Clare has reached a serious crisis. Even Derrick Lynch on the radio pulled no punches about the dire state of football in the county.

A big task awaits Mark Fitzgerald and his management team next year for sure. Colm Collins must be Clare equivalent of Lazarus what he did for Clare football for us to be so competitive for so long, in spite of the poor state of football in the county.

windy shepard henderson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121063541#Comment_121063541

poor just watched it back , taught miltown had progressed from last year , they have not , need eoin back

to be fair ,cormac murray and cian mahoney are doing some job holding the fort

windy shepard henderson

clare gaa had 3 live games this weekend , they showcased the really good and the brutally bad standard of the game at the moment

rory and emett mcmahon yesterday were top class along with seamus casey and kieran o brien , dark horses the estuary men ar for the championship

but i was at the cratloe ennistymon game yesterday , eire og v doonbeg today and just watched miltown v clondegad , we need to start relegating 2 teams a year if this many teams just want to avoid relegation

finbarrk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121063828#Comment_121063828

Who's Mark Fitzgerald?

Sterling Archer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121066386#Comment_121066386

Former Limerick manager and Kerins O'Rahilly's player

Treble double

People are confusing poor standards with entertainment value in the Clare club football championship. I would argue that the players are at a higher standard of skill and conditioning than ever before and players now are as good and better than anything in the past. The spectacle however is not as entertaining as what has gone before, there is less chaos in the games now because every team is coached within an inch of their lives to hold onto possession. The ball isn't being kicked, man to man battles are a thing of the past and a 50/50 skirmish for a ball is rarely seen. The club supporter craves all the above so is left empty by what he is watching. The forwards are as good if not better than ever but they are plying their trade against teams with 13 players defending, so every score is alot harder earned. I believe standards in Clare club football are as high as any div 2 counties in the country and some div 1, but the spectacle is not what supporters crave.

Treble double

If you trawl YouTube you will find footage of club games from Clare in the late 70s, 80s and 90s, if anyone suggests that they were of a higher standard of what is on display today, I'd worry about their knowledge, some of the stuff going back towards the early 80s was comical but it was of its time and you can be sure if there was social media back then lads would be online bemoaning the state of football in the county and talking about the glory days of the 50s and 60s. Football is always being knocked and especially in Clare but I would love to know what people think is the perfect way the game should be played

keeponhurling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121066450#Comment_121066450

Is he the new Clare manager ?

finbarrk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121073316#Comment_121073316

That man/ woman seems to think so anyway.

funnyname

https://www.clare.fm/featured-2/fitzgerald-put-forward-new-clare-football-boss/

windy shepard henderson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121066920#Comment_121066920

i would love to see some of them games if there are still links available , i have seen a fer late 90s county finals, the taught process back then is not the same as today

i agree totally what your saying about standards though , most people complaining dont watch football outside this county so how would they know anyway