Am I the only person offended by Paloma Faith on Graham Norton?

El_Duderino 09

suicide_circus wrote: »

that's the one

Thought as much.

Not sure why this is feminist's fault though.

mistersifter

Bob Harris wrote: »

Knew the name but knew nothing about her otherwise so had a look. She has that funny eyebrow look going on and looks like she speaks in a cockney accent. Not one I'd be tugging off to.

I agree. And I also think she's a right annoying yolk. But this is only for punishment - I'm doing society a favour. Taking one for the team. Someone has to do it.:cool:

ohnonotgmail

mistersifter wrote: »

I agree. And I also think she's a right annoying yolk. But this is only for punishment - I'm doing society a favour. Taking one for the team. Someone has to do it.:cool:

*Salutes*

jiltloop

I still don't understand how someone can be offended by something that wasn't about them. Has the word offended taken on a new meaning that I'm not aware off? People used to get offended by insults directed at them specifically, how has this 3rd hand offence gain any traction?

What else do you get offended by OP?

Gimme A Pound

Jeez people really navel gaze over the word "offended". It's not always meant literally.

Feisar

Kora Fluffy Pronoun wrote: »

Jeez people really navel gaze over the word "offended". It's not always meant literally.

Ah it does get a bit too much air play in fairness.

Boom_Bap

I just knocked one out watching that youtube clip.












OK I lie, I whacked off twice during it.

retro:electro

Are you actually offended though or are you only taking pretence offence on the basis that “if a man said it there would be outrage”, because if so then that’s quite sad. I think it’s a mortifying thing for any stranger to come out with, man or woman; but basing your outrage on the fact a man wouldn’t have gotten away with it and not on actual offence taken is quite a pathetic philosophy.

Game of Thrones Fan

Airyfairy12 wrote: »

Comments like this and much worse are regularly said to women on tv shows. There are episodes of the Graham Norton show where female guests are being blatantly creeped on by male guests.

Like when?

IAMAMORON

She was taking the piss... she is a comedian. Very uncouth but no one died in fairness.

But your also correct on delivery. Had that been Frankie Boyle, Ricky Gervais or David Mitchell etc talking about Jodie Comer we would be having a different debate altogether.

I actually think it is one of the most romantic things you can say to someone you are in love with. But you won't catch me mentioning it to my next door neighbour either...…

.......

I tried to rub one out to Andrew Scott but failed because I wasnt turned on enough.

Is that better?

FunLover18

If a male randomly blurted out that he'd knocked one out to a fellow guest, there would be harsher reaction but you haven't just changed the genders in that scenario, you've changed the context completely.

The way Graham brings it up, it's clear that Andrew was already aware and it had been Paloma who had told him on q previous occasion. The fact Graham brought it up means that it was discovered during the research of the show and no doubt Andrew would have been given the opportunity to say "Actually, I'd rather we didn't discuss that".

IamtheWalrus

Feisar wrote: »

This. A woman says something like that its either funny/goofy/awkward/silly. A man says it and it's a bit rapey. All about context though, fine in private with someone you bump uglies with, not on TV.

Bump uglies lol

Paddy Cow

Game of Thrones Fan wrote: »

Like when?

Like when Russell Brand was talking about his penis and called Lorraine Kelly a slut :pac:

sbsquarepants

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

Conversation ended when Graham said "Daddy" or "oh Daddy" but in the way you would expect it to be said by a young one getting railed. Poor Tennant did not know where to look and they swiftly moved on.

I don't know what kind of young ones you do be railing Deebles, but if anyone called me Daddy during sex, my mickey would go full on turtles head and retract back inside. Could be days before he'd peep back out!:eek:

Church on Tuesday

It's the Graham Norton show, about as low brow as you can get, so this kinda humor is to be expected.

Former Observer

rom wrote: »

Paloma Faith basically says to Andrew Scott that she rubbed one out watching an episode of his show.

The whole show is cringe overload. Stopped watching a few years ago. A bunch of boring people tittering about body parts. No thanks.

IAMAMORON

If the birds fancy ya you will get away with it. Lady-killers like Russell Brand will always get a pass. It's just nice clean fun if your good looking and hung like a pornstar, that's before your rich, popular and famous.

Not to be attempted if you have a 15 year beer gut and halitosis, it never goes down well at all. Fussy tramps.

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Can recall a couple of other dodgy moments, in particular one with Zac Efron where he couldn't answer questions over the screams from the crowd and GN was egging them on saying will we get him to take his top off. Efron was clearly frustrated and uncomfortable, if he'd been laughing along it'd be different.

Must be strange to be Andrew Scott, gay man in his 40s and suddenly starts hearing quite a lot about how horny all the women are over him!

Gimme A Pound

IAMAMORON wrote: »

If the birds fancy ya you will get away with it. Lady-killers like Russell Brand will always get a pass. It's just nice clean fun if your good looking and hung like a pornstar, that's before your rich, popular and famous.

Not to be attempted if you have a 15 year beer gut and halitosis, it never goes down well at all. Fussy tramps.

And vice versa.

It's skanky carry-on no matter whom.

IAMAMORON

Kora Fluffy Pronoun wrote: »

And vice versa.

It's skanky carry-on no matter whom.

Please feel free to elaborate, it's only Thursday...

Never the worst time for skanky carry on imo.

EmmetSpiceland

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

It's the Graham Norton show, about as low brow as you can get, so this kinda humor is to be expected.

Wasn’t Miriam Margolyes on it before talking about how she gave a flasher in the park a “helping hand”?

IAMAMORON

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

Wasn’t Miriam Margolyes on it before talking about how she gave a flasher in the park a “helping hand”?

I always suspected she was something of an opportunist all right.

She also has a reputation for monologuing.

Deebles McBeebles

sbsquarepants wrote: »

I don't know what kind of young ones you do be railing Deebles, but if anyone called me Daddy during sex, my mickey would go full on turtles head and retract back inside. Could be days before he'd peep back out!:eek:

Ah I saw it once in an adult educational film. Big Daddy Does Dallas, I think it was called.

sbsquarepants

I seen him fight giant haystacks a few times....didn't strike me as the type of bloke who'd be knee deep in fandango to be honest;)

IAMAMORON

....... wrote: »

I tried to rub one out to Andrew Scott but failed because I wasnt turned on enough.

Is that better?

It can happen, I personally wouldn't be to " heavy " on yourself.

Just move on , there will be other opportunities.

Dublin Spur

love the honesty and craic involved

d8491prj5boyvg

Feisar wrote: »

Is it a double standard though?

Google:

A double standard is the application of different sets of principles for situations that are, in principle, the same, and is often used to describe freedom that is given to one party over another.

IMHO men and women are not the same and that's not a bad thing, opposites attract and all that.

Agreed. A truly progressive society acknoweldges these differences and does not ignore them. It does not discriminate on that basis. There is a clear difference that many miss and then go and start silly threads like this.

IAMAMORON

sbsquarepants wrote: »

I don't know what kind of young ones you do be railing Deebles, but if anyone called me Daddy during sex, my mickey would go full on turtles head and retract back inside. Could be days before he'd peep back out!:eek:

A very common occurrence when your suddenly overachieving or punching above your weight. In particular with new models of the fairer sex who are keen on getting some experience.

Your best to sit back and enjoy the experience here. If she has a mouth like a hoover it can help.

Feisar

IAMAMORON wrote: »

A very common occurrence when your suddenly overachieving or punching above your weight. In particular with new models of the fairer sex who are keen on getting some experience.

Your best to sit back and enjoy the experience here. If she has a mouth like a hoover it can help.

I was only ever with one lady into the whole "Daddy" shtick and as it happens she was significantly younger than me. As above, best sit back and enjoy.

Outlaw Pete

Seamai wrote: »

That was Miriam Margoyles that came across the guy in the tree. The woman has absolutely no filters.

Ah cheers, you're right, she's no filter and always a good guest for that reason.

Here's that clip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4sGU_eFc40

Yer Da sells Avon

One eyed Jack wrote: »

The whole show is basically a vehicle for celebrity innuendo.

The problem with innuendo is that there's always the risk that someone will take it up the wrong way.

IAMAMORON

Feisar wrote: »

I was only ever with one lady into the whole "Daddy" shtick and as it happens she was significantly younger than me. As above, best sit back and enjoy.

Good, I am glad you have had the privilege.

For me I am often found to be muttering it uncomfortably at any stage during the event. Outbursts can be sporadic, depending on staging. But any time during the event I could be prone to making such enquiries, particularly if my assistant is making enquiries as to who I am. I will second guess here.

It is always good for both parties to know " who the daddy is ".

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

Wasn’t Miriam Margolyes on it before talking about how she gave a flasher in the park a “helping hand”?

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I always suspected she was something of an opportunist all right.

She also has a reputation for monologuing.

I skip any episodes she’s on. Hate her schtick. She tends to take over with her whole “I’m so inadvertently quirky and have no fücks to give” thing. It’s tedious.

IAMAMORON

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

I skip any episodes she’s on. Hate her schtick. She tends to take over with her whole “I’m so inadvertently quirky and have no fücks to give” thing. It’s tedious.

I appreciate your angst. She's probably not your type. Keep looking and stay classy.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I appreciate your angst. She's probably not your type. Keep looking and stay classy.

Come again? :pac:

EmmetSpiceland

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I appreciate your angst. She's probably not your type. Keep looking and stay classy.

To be fair to her, she made no bones of telling the nation that she “tugged off” a public sex pest.

On the other hand, it’s stories like that that could encourage other “low level” sex offenders to see if they too could get “serviced” by a passing member of the public, celebrity or not.

It’s a dangerous precedent.

Nikki Sixx

There are many double standards when it comes to acceptable behaviour between men and women. I’ll give you a few:
(A) woman coming on to a hot disinterested man, touching his dick through his pants, groping him- desperate. Man coming on strong to a disinterested woman, groping her-sex pest/rapist/sexual assault
(B) woman sleeping with very drunk man out of her league- good girl yourself. Man sleeping with drunk woman out of his league-rape, taking advantage.
(C) Man stalking woman- ring guards, freak. Woman stalking man- He’s a prick to play with her emotions.

IAMAMORON

Point taken. I admittedly do struggle to come to terms with the depravity levels of late septagenarians. I can only fathom how my current levels will degenerate as I begin to develop further.

I do think her frankness should be both admired, welcomed and feared. The merits of declaring yourself a public sex pest are still open to debate, at any age.

I have managed to discipline my own to pathetic self rumblings at my own design. But I keep my options open, always.

threeball

rom wrote: »

Paloma Faith basically says to Andrew Scott that she rubbed one out watching an episode of his show. If it was a male telling a female there would be outrage but somehow this is funny. Wonder what people think.

Objectifying of anyone is wrong. The wording of what she is saying is that he is a thing to be consumed. I know that she probably knows he is gay but it's still not appropriate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94ynwSGklnw&feature=youtu.be&t=62

Coulda been worse. At least it wasn't Barry Scott.

Give a whole new meaning to Cillit Bang

DrPhilG

Nikki Sixx wrote: »

There are many double standards when it comes to acceptable behaviour between men and women. I’ll give you a few:
(A) woman coming on to a hot disinterested man, touching his dick through his pants, groping him- desperate. Man coming on strong to a disinterested woman, groping her-sex pest/rapist/sexual assault
(B) woman sleeping with very drunk man out of her league- good girl yourself. Man sleeping with drunk woman out of his league-rape, taking advantage.
(C) Man stalking woman- ring guards, freak. Woman stalking man- He’s a prick to play with her emotions.

I've been to a Michael Buble concert with my wife, and when he walked through the crowd he was quite simply molested by dozens of women.

Security were holding them back but he still got his balls grabbed or nearly grabbed multiple times by everything from women ranging I'd say from 20s to 70s. He'd need to wear a cup.

What the hell like? Can you imagine the aforementioned Paloma Faith walking through the crowd at a gig and a load of lads grabbing her boobs or shoving their hands up her skirt?

Heckler

DrPhilG wrote: »

I've been to a Michael Buble concert with my wife, and when he walked through the crowd he was quite simply molested by dozens of women.

Security were holding them back but he still got his balls grabbed or nearly grabbed multiple times by everything from women ranging I'd say from 20s to 70s. He'd need to wear a cup.

What the hell like? Can you imagine the aforementioned Paloma Faith walking through the crowd at a gig and a load of lads grabbing her boobs or shoving their hands up her skirt?

Once you're not a straight white male you can do whatever you want apparently or risk being bullied on social media.

By C**ts.

DrPhilG

DrPhilG wrote: »

Can you imagine the aforementioned Paloma Faith walking through the crowd at a gig and a load of lads grabbing her boobs or shoving their hands up her skirt?

what

at her age?

Gimme A Pound

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Please feel free to elaborate, it's only Thursday...

Never the worst time for skanky carry on imo.

Vice versa as in there are guys who are ok with sleazy come-ons or worse if they fancy the woman, but not if they don't.

And then there are women and men who don't appreciate it even if they'd otherwise find the person attractive, and it turns them off them.

IAMAMORON wrote: »

A very common occurrence when your suddenly overachieving or punching above your weight. In particular with new models of the fairer sex who are keen on getting some experience.

Your best to sit back and enjoy the experience here. If she has a mouth like a hoover it can help.

Crikey.

Bobblehats

F*cking eccentric diva

Paloma; game's up! Barely out of the womb

Heckler

After reading the thread before seeing the clip I thought she was worse than Hitler. Jesus, Mary and Rory calm down. Its the GNS for ****s sake.

She was well game in the brilliant interview with Bill Murray, Matt Damon and some fella from an Abbey wearing rouge.

I agree about Miriam Margoyles by another poster. She peddles this schtick that gets annoying fast. Her GNS with Will.I.AM was funny but a theatre actress of what ? 40 years easily, pretending shocked. "I don't know many black people except in show business". The **** does that mean ? ooohhh I'm one of those too.

kowloon

I seem to remember there being a thing years ago where some woman showed a picture she had taken under the side of a mens shower and people saying if it had been a picture of women it wouldn't have been aired. Sure that was Graham Norton too. Either way, it's nothing new.

Do you want the truth or something beautiful was some album..

Heckler

Deleted User wrote: »

Do you want the truth or something beautiful was some album..

I'm not an especial fan but I think she has a great voice. I really like a few songs and she seems sound and down to earth in interviews. She is maybe unconventionally good looking these days. i.e.no trout pout, fillers etc. Good for her.

Yeah, I dunno..any time I've seen her interviewed she kind of annoyed me.. she's kinda good looking.. other stuff I've heard has been hit and miss..that album is feckin epic though..