The Football League Thread 2020/2021 - Championship, League 1, League 2

Mushy

Kiwi_knock wrote: »

Actually hadn't realised how well Leeds finished the season, I suppose all the focus was on Brentford's run. Great runs by Cardiff and Swansea to get the playoffs, and Luton and Barnsley to stay up. Wigan really couldn't have done much more to stay up.

Yeah leeds won 6 in a row themselves, absolutely romped home really. Was groaning after Forshaw had said before restart that Leeds would be comfortable, thinking would only end 1 way. 10 points ahead of second was not on the mind

c.p.w.g.w

Been seeing a few people saying that could not believe Barnsley stayed up...they are a very good side...

The record against the top side was incredible and with such a young team...they really should have beaten us (Leeds) a few games back...

Leeds 0pts
WBA 2pts(unbeaten)
Brentford 3pts
Fulham 6pts
Cardiff 0pts
Swansea 2pts(unbeaten)

That's a good return against the top sides

ctrl-alt-delete

Swansea miss a penalty, saved by Raya for Brentford.

Not long after Henry is shown a straight red. Debatable if it was even a foul for me, clearly got the ball albeit with a sliding tackle from distance.

Guy:Incognito

Swansea miss a peno and a couple of mins later Henry gets sent off. Was no need for him to slide in where he did but he got the ball.

The joys of no VAR, it was 50/50 if it was a free , nevermind a red card.

It'll be overturned on appeal ( I assume they can?) but what use is that if they end up losing the first leg?

Loafing Oaf

I guess no away goals rule means 0-0 would be a good result here for Brentford, even leaving aside the red card

Guy:Incognito

Dive from Brewster. Wonder would he have gotten it if there hadnt been the red card?



"if it was given in pl , VAR wouldnt overturn it" tells you the state of the game now. Not the VAR bit but the part where dives are now accepted as penalties because the keeper slid over.

Guy:Incognito

Swansea 1-0. Ayew.

Loafing Oaf

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

I guess no away goals rule means 0-0 would be a good result here for Brentford

Hmm, if...

Just in case any of you hadn't heard this crazy stat, none of the bottom five teams with six games to ended going down this year:eek:

pavb2

I think Fulham will win the playoffs the experience of two years ago will count

Agent Coulson

Brentford two up after 15 minutes they really look up or this 2-1 up now away goals don’t count in the playoffs.

Mushy

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Brentford two up after 15 minutes they really look up or this 2-1 up now away goals don’t count in the playoffs.

Terrible defending for both goals.

Efforts at both ends here

Loafing Oaf

Steve Cooper should up for the fight after his experience in 300

Kiwi_knock

Huge gaps in the Swansea defence for both goals. Both teams going for it, a good game so far.

PTH2009

hoping for Brentford to go up but still have a half of football to go.

Think Cardiff will make a comeback tomorrow

MD1990

Brentford superb side to watch. Hope they go up

PTH2009

brentford know how to start a 2nd half

ongarite

Straight out of the blocks again this half and another goal.
Should be tie over.

Harry Palmr

Swansea have no business being in the playoffs really. They've been mediocre all season. In it thanks to a few goals scored at the right moment and Forest doing a Forest.

Loafing Oaf

ongarite wrote: »

Straight out of the blocks again this half and another goal.
Should be tie over.

Not if Pontus Jansson has anything to do with it:P

Guy:Incognito

Thats a horrific effort at a clearance.

martingriff

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Thats a horrific effort at a clearance.

And of course blames everyone else. 12 minuted to backs to the wall

Loafing Oaf

One more Swansea goal gets them to extra time yeah?

martingriff

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

One more Swansea goal gets them to extra time yeah?

Nope away goals Swansea win no?

Agent Coulson

martingriff wrote: »

Nope away goals Swansea win no?

Away goals don't count in the play offs.

martingriff

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Away goals don't count in the play offs.

Thanks

Guy:Incognito

Great way to see off the old ground.

Hope they win the final now.

Deeper Blue

First time seeing Brentford. They are excellent. They'll win the final handy enough I reckon.

Guy:Incognito

https://twitter.com/TJC__84/status/1288568985890574337





£77.5m over 2 seasons is a nice advantage for Swansea to have.

dfx-

In fairness, the biggest thing tipping Swansea into the playoff was the Forest collapse.

You'd wonder how Brentford messed up automatic promotion when it was there for them - could be under the same pressure in the final. 1-0 against ten men at home was unlikely to be enough for Swansea. Would prefer Fulham though.

PTH2009

if Cardiff get another goal will they go through on away goals ?

Mushy

PTH2009 wrote: »

if Cardiff get another goal will they go through on away goals ?

No away goals. One more to take it to extra time

CiarraiAbu2

Is Arter injured?

PTH2009

Mushy wrote: »

No away goals. One more to take it to extra time

Sitting in a pub watching on my phone please god it happens

Think Brentford will struggle against any of these 2

ongarite

Cardiff have Fulham on the ropes here but just can't score the goal to level the tie.

Mushy

Brentford v Fulham it is, bit of a local derby so should be fun. Hopefully brentford do it

PTH2009

Cardiff ****ed that away and with that luck Fulham will beat Brentford

So cup final Saturday and playoff final Sunday ?

Mushy

PTH2009 wrote: »

Cardiff ****ed that away and with that luck Fulham will beat Brentford

So cup final Saturday and playoff final Sunday ?

Playoff is Tuesday evening. Brentford more than good enough to beat Fulham

PTH2009

Mushy wrote: »

Playoff is Tuesday evening. Brentford more than good enough to beat Fulham

****e thought it was sunday ah sure something to watch on a tuesday i suppose (well I can stream Sligo vs Waterford but ya knw ha)

Mushy

The EFL ****show rolls on. Sheffield Wednesday charged with falsely declaring sale date of stadium have been deducted 12 points, but from next season. Bit of a joke to charge in one season, punish in next

Harry Palmr

I suppose it would be retrospective punishment (which is usually considered a bad thing) given the season proper is over.

Mushy

Harry Palmr wrote: »

I suppose it would be retrospective punishment (which is usually considered a bad thing) given the season proper is over.

Yeah but other clubs are affected by a decision that shouldn't take 9 months to resolve. Itd put Wednesday down to bottom, and so charlton be saved (the club that seemingly the efl havent approved the owners), is a bit of a farce.

pavb2

Harry Palmr wrote: »

I suppose it would be retrospective punishment (which is usually considered a bad thing) given the season proper is over.

I don’t agree with points deductions but appreciate there probably needs to be some form of punishment. Final standings should be based on what happens on the pitch. But if they have to do the points deduction It Should be imposed before the start of the next season Not during as in Wigan’s case.

Kiwi_knock

Utter mess. Charlton considering legal action.

pavb2

pavb2 wrote: »

I don’t agree with points deductions but appreciate there probably needs to be some form of punishment. Final standings should be based on what happens on the pitch...

But surely if the only way of keeping a team on the pitch is by pulling financial strokes off it and cooking the books, then they should be turfed out.

Bridge93

Can somebody explain to me why they deem Wigan’s punishment worthy of relegation this year and Wednesdays keeps them up and they start with a deduction? What’s the difference, how is it fair on Wigan?

Mushy

Bridge93 wrote: »

Can somebody explain to me why they deem Wigan’s punishment worthy of relegation this year and Wednesdays keeps them up and they start with a deduction? What’s the difference, how is it fair on Wigan?

If Wigan had ended up in relegation places on merit, the deduction would be next season. But essentially yeah, that's the crux of the matter. Unless its because the season is over, but then theres the issue of why it took about 9 months to get to this stage from being charged.

So in short, it's the efl, nobody really knows!

GoldFour4

Charlton are absolutely right to be considering legal action. The EFL would want to come out and set the rationale for applying the penalty next year very soon. I could understand if this was a month later and the season was about to begin but there is still plenty of time for teams to prepare for a new division etc.

is_that_so

malistheman wrote: »

Charlton are absolutely right to be considering legal action. The EFL would want to come out and set the rationale for applying the penalty next year very soon. I could understand if this was a month later and the season was about to begin but there is still plenty of time for teams to prepare for a new division etc.

It is a complete mess and the EFL are at the heart of it. Derby still haven't found out their fate and they allowed Villa and Wolves to sneak off to the EPL without punishing them. I can understand Charlton feeling aggrieved but they might do well to remember it was their own performances over the season that sank them rather than looking for a legal out.

adaminho

is_that_so wrote: »

It is a complete mess and the EFL are at the heart of it. Derby still haven't found out their fate and they allowed Villa and Wolves to sneak off to the EPL without punishing them. I can understand Charlton feeling aggrieved but they might do well to remember it was their own performances over the season that sank them rather than looking for a legal out.

From what I understand the reason Wednesday's punishment being next season is because of the Derby decision being delayed. It would be "unfair " to have one team punished in one one season and another the following season for stuff that happened the same time! As for Wigan, it's written in the contract that administration is an automatic 12 pt deduction applied at the end of the season depending on where you finish. If they waited till the end of the season to go into administration they wouldn't have been deducted till next season.

is_that_so

adaminho wrote: »

From what I understand the reason Wednesday's punishment being next season is because of the Derby decision being delayed. It would be "unfair " to have one team punished in one one season and another the following season for stuff that happened the same time! As for Wigan, it's written in the contract that administration is an automatic 12 pt deduction applied at the end of the season depending on where you finish. If they waited till the end of the season to go into administration they wouldn't have been deducted till next season.

The Wigan arrangement was 12 point now if they were above the relegation zone or 12 points next season if they were automatically relegated.