The Football League Thread 2020/2021 - Championship, League 1, League 2

Bridge93

You’d have to seriously question the auditors of Wednesday for letting a transaction of that size get through. Surely we’re talking millions of pounds?

acquiescefc

Bridge93 wrote: »

You’d have to seriously question the auditors of Wednesday for letting a transaction of that size get through. Surely we’re talking millions of pounds?

lol, you dont know the half of it. Chansiri does say the transaction was OK'ed officially with the EFL but honestly its been strange times.


Basically he sold the stadium to one of his own companies at a suggested inflated rate and booked the transaction into a previous financial year.

Everything is sponsored by him, which he somehow circumnavigates. We have adverts all round the ground for DC Taxis 'coming soon' for years now and no one has ever seen a DC taxi. DC is coincidentally the chairmans initials.


I think weve been lucky. -12 in the Champ gives us a chance but its a noose that will probably take us down.

Harry Palmr

Wigan officially down

Jeju

Fulham on top here, waiting for Brentford to come alive but unable to because of constant ball retention by Fulham.

c.p.w.g.w

Mushy wrote: »

If Wigan had ended up in relegation places on merit, the deduction would be next season. But essentially yeah, that's the crux of the matter. Unless its because the season is over, but then theres the issue of why it took about 9 months to get to this stage from being charged.

So in short, it's the efl, nobody really knows!

Its a bit ridiculous...The decision to boothstrap the points penalty to a season that maximizes the punishment is beyond a joke...So its either get relegated or start the next season with a penalty...oh you already got relegated...start the next season on negative points...

Jeju wrote: »

Fulham on top here, waiting for Brentford to come alive but unable to because of constant ball retention by Fulham.

Fulham may regret not making the most that period of dominance

Mushy

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

Its a bit ridiculous...The decision to boothstrap the points penalty to a season that maximizes the punishment is beyond a joke...So its either get relegated or start the next season with a penalty...oh you already got relegated...start the next season on negative points...

I think its cos of what leeds did years ago, relegation was confirmed but went into administration to avoid it at start of next season. Of course, further points deduction was then applied then. If wigan had got a late goal v Fulham, theyd have stayed up even with the deduction

c.p.w.g.w

Mushy wrote: »

I think its cos of what leeds did years ago, relegation was confirmed but went into administration to avoid it at start of next season. Of course, further points deduction was then applied then. If wigan had got a late goal v Fulham, theyd have stayed up even with the deduction

Its akin to a double punishment...Leeds fan here, so i'm still bitter about our points deduction back then

rodge68

Bad tackle by Reed earlier..lucky not to see red...

Hope Brentford win for no reason....

Jeju

rodge68 wrote: »

Bad tackle by Reed earlier..lucky not to see red...

Hope Brentford win for no reason....

Same as, thought brentford were excellent against Swansea, but looking at this think Fulham would be a much better fit to survive the PL next season. 2 midfielders booked for Fulham will the bees exploit that.

Loafing Oaf

Can see the Bees nicking a late win here

ERG89

Keeper????

Oh its so much worse on the replay

Kiwi_knock

Bad few minutes for the keeper.

Zaph

Shocking positioning by the keeper, but very clever from Bryan to spot the opportunity.

Esse85

It's been an awful match, dreadful from the keeper.

martingriff

ERG89 wrote: »

Keeper????

Oh its so much worse on the replay

So far out it was not like he had a wall to place. 40 million mistake?

rodge68

Good thinking from Byran..What was goalie thinking before that coming out so far previously ?

Kiwi_knock

Well that's it. Poor enough game, Brentford didn't turn up at all.

Jeju

Home and hosed, Byran might make it into my Fantasy team.

Zaph

Superb goal. Crap game but two moments of quality from Bryan.

Mr.Nice Guy

Pleased Fulham are going up. Always found them a likeable side and Craven Cottage is a grand little ground.

Jeju

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Pleased Fulham are going up. Always found them a likeable side and Craven Cottage is a grand little ground.

Kudos to Scott Parker, always liked his honesty, he probably has ambitions for Fulham to be as high as his Tie Clip

Corholio

Brentford awful, Fulham much better tactically, choked Brentford and Watkins especially of service. They blew their chance in the last two games of the season for automatic and never turned up here either.

Tom Mann Centuria

League One and Two to introduce salary cap. 2.5 million for League One, 1.5 million for League Two. Fans of Sunderland unsurprisingly upset about this. PFA also upset.

https://www.efl.com/news/2020/august/squad-salary-caps-introduced-in-league-one-and-league-two/

GoldFour4

That makes sense for the long term viability of those leagues in fairness. Will create massive issues for clubs coming down from the championship though. Sunderland are a few years down now so really should have a smaller wage bill than they currently have.

Harry Palmr

PFA on the wrong side of an issue yet again. It's great to see that most clubs understand the threat to their collective existence.

c.p.w.g.w

Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »

League One and Two to introduce salary cap. 2.5 million for League One, 1.5 million for League Two. Fans of Sunderland unsurprisingly upset about this. PFA also upset.

https://www.efl.com/news/2020/august/squad-salary-caps-introduced-in-league-one-and-league-two/

League 1 - Weekly Salary Allowance £48grand
League 2 - Weekly Salary Allowance £29grand

Agent Coulson

Jason Tindall named new manager of Bournemouth moving up from Howe's number 2.

Agent Coulson

Are you sure that's not like £4.8k a week and £2.9k a week.

Guy:Incognito

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Are you sure that's not like £4.8k a week and £2.9k a week.

I was thinking L1 players wouldnt be on 50k , so I figured then it must be a squad total figure. 2.5m would be 48k a week

Agent Coulson

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

I was thinking L1 players wouldnt be on 50k , so I figured then it must be a squad total figure. 2.5m would be 48k a week

So each club has to break £48k & £29k a week between a 25 man squad that would work at about £1.9k a week per man in League 1and about £1.1k a man in league 2.

Still decent wages however not life changing.

Tom Mann Centuria

Agent Coulson wrote: »

So each club has to break £48k & £29k a week between a 25 man squad that would work at about £1.9k a week per man in League 1and about £1.1k a man in league 2.

Still decent wages however not life changing.

League Two wages have tracked very closely with the industrial average wage for years. The last survey I remember from 3 or 4 years ago, had league 2 footballers about 2 grand better off than national average. League One was a big jump up though.

I also thought I read somewhere, though this may be wrong, that they'd agreed 20 man squads with addition of any homegrown players.

Agent Coulson

Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »

League Two wages have tracked very closely with the industrial average wage for years. The last survey I remember from 3 or 4 years ago, had league 2 footballers about 2 grand better off than national average. League One was a big jump up though.

I also thought I read somewhere, though this may be wrong, that they'd agreed 20 man squads with addition of any homegrown players.

Championship contracts now are going to be effected big time as well with relegation clauses they could have some players on £50k a week.

Guy:Incognito

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Championship contracts now are going to be effected big time as well with relegation clauses they could have some players on £50k a week.

No doubt they'll work out some sort of parachute system that gives a relegated club 2 or 3 years to get in line, meaning they've a massive advantage and should come back up anyway.


It probably wont be implemented n the end anyway.

Tom Mann Centuria

Macclesfield relegated out of the football league today after the EFL appealed some points deduction or another. Stevenage get the reprieve. No idea of the ins and outs of it.

They really need to standardise when deductions are made. Must be a kick in the chops for Macclesfield.

adaminho

So Derby sold their ground for 80m to get around FFP and are waiting on hearing on points deduction for it.

https://twitter.com/BBCSport/status/1293630836219056128

Something seriously wrong here.

Harry Palmr

So they're basically insolvent then!

adaminho

Harry Palmr wrote: »

So they're basically insolvent then!

Pretty much! They got 32 Red to pay Rooney's wages as a "sponsorship"

This is done as Michael Dell loaning the money to Mel Morris as an advance of a takeover.

Mushy

Think the odd one about this is that the efl approved the sale, implying they were ok with the valuation. Then last year said they are investigating. All a calmity

Tom Mann Centuria

Northampton made their biggest transfer fee ever the other week, sold Charlie Goode to Brentford for over a million (rumoured to be 1.5 million with add ons etc). Biggest they'd had before that was less than half a million (despite reports saying we got a million for Mark Bunn, we supposedly didn't (small clubs like the Cobblers can't keep secrets), locally they guesstimate closer to 400,000).

ShagNastii

The big money stuff for the smaller clubs can be heartbreaking to see happen.

The farce that was Wigan last year made the club look like a complete play thing for some eastern investors. Must be so gutting for true fans of said clubs.

Tom Mann Centuria

After their relegation, Macclesfield Town are now no more. Wound up in the court for half a million HMRC bill. Sad day for another old club.

Kiwi_knock

Early days but not great starts for Forest and Derby. Tough start for Wycombe as well, Ainsworth seems to have a good attitude but will be hard for them to stay up.

Obviously the main news is the long-term future of Leagues 1 & 2 without fans. A bail-out looks likely, so hopefully enough to keep clubs going. Would be a great shame to lose any clubs. Hopefully a positive outcome of Covid-19 is that clubs become more sustainable in the long run. The wages being paid, particularly in the championship, are crazy.

Tom Mann Centuria

Things look increasingly bleak for lower league football. They need saving, or tens of clubs risk disappearing.

https://twitter.com/danroan/status/1310506760835346432?s=20

rodge68

Kiwi_knock wrote: »

Early days but not great starts for Forest and Derby. Tough start for Wycombe as well, Ainsworth seems to have a good attitude but will be hard for them to stay up.

Obviously the main news is the long-term future of Leagues 1 & 2 without fans. A bail-out looks likely, so hopefully enough to keep clubs going. Would be a great shame to lose any clubs. Hopefully a positive outcome of Covid-19 is that clubs become more sustainable in the long run. The wages being paid, particularly in the championship, are crazy.

Probably the worst Derby team for a while, so boring..They try to pass it around, they cant even do that, and have no penetration or decent player to get on the ball...as for the defending... spirit seems low too..Another long season ahead.

Tom Mann Centuria

https://twitter.com/ntfc/status/1313127934438379520?s=20

Agent Coulson

The Premier League, FA and EFL today jointly published the following open letter to football supporters.

The Premier League, EFL, The FA, Women’s Super League and Women’s Championship want to assure all fans that together we are fully committed to your safe return to football grounds as soon as possible.

The health of the nation remains our overriding priority, and for many months we have been working with experts to make our grounds as safe as, if not safer than, any other public activity currently allowed. And we are consulting with the Football Supporters’ Association to keep supporters updated every step of the way.

We know attendance at matches can play a positive role in people’s lives during these challenging times. And the past few months have shown how clubs can still feel the support of their fans. Even when you have been unable to get together, you and your clubs have found ways to make a difference in your communities, with clubs delivering food parcels, taking part in phone calls and online conversations with fans, the elderly and vulnerable and moving services and programmes online to make a difference in unprecedented and challenging circumstances.

But we all know football is not the same without fans. Every player and manager is missing the direct connection with you and the impact that you have on our games.

With the EFL, Premier League, Women’s Super League and Women’s Championship already staging 11 successful test events recently, we have demonstrated that we can deliver matches safely. The sooner we can return, the sooner we can reunite communities and support local jobs, livelihoods, regional businesses and also the national economy.

We will continue to urge government to allow us to return fans safely to stadiums. It is positive progress that major arts and music venues have been told they can run socially-distanced events indoors. And now football should be allowed to do the same - in highly regulated and stewarded outdoor environments.

Additionally, representatives from football are active members of the government's Sports Technology and Innovation Group, as well as being involved with its ‘Moonshot’ mass-testing project to open up the economy. And in light of the postponement of test events we will intensify our efforts to pioneer new approaches - working with epidemiologists, scientists and medical experts in areas such as public health, clinical processes and occupational hygiene. This will make sure stadiums are COVID-safe by considering best practice screening and hygiene methods to ensure that fans and the general public will be safe and drive the government's sporting plans to move faster.

Stadium environments can be modified and carefully managed. Measures could include screening spectators before they enter the ground, installing temperature checks, requiring masks to be worn, one-way systems and providing a code of conduct for all those attending on a matchday. This will all be bolstered by deep-cleaning practices to help further reduce the risk of virus transmission.

Clubs want to be pro-active on this matter and willing to consider measures both in the stadium and on the approach that will allay any concerns as to fans’ safety. From a travel perspective, clubs will work closely with experts and local authorities to model solutions relevant for each stadium to ease pressure on public transport, while extra parking facilities could be available so a greater proportion of you can travel by private car or bicycle.

We are determined to identify a path forward with government. We need clarity for our clubs and for you as supporters as to what the roadmap for change in this area looks like. We all know why caution is needed, and we ask government for consistency in their policy so sport is treated as fairly as other activities currently allowed to welcome spectators.

So, we will continue to urge the relevant authorities to let us, together, use innovative ways to bring fans safely back into football grounds, starting with a return of the test event programme. If we do so, then the benefits will be felt not just by fans but throughout society and the economy.

Richard Masters, Premier League chief executive

David Baldwin, EFL chief executive

Mark Bullingham, FA chief executive

Kelly Simmons, FA director of women's professional game

adaminho

https://twitter.com/NFFC/status/1313535765952036864?s=19

Agent Coulson

Good appointment for both.

Kiwi_knock

It was coming after the way they missed out on the playoffs. Good appointment, there's a decent squad there for Hughton to work with. Hughton has been waiting for a while for the right job so have to imagine he thinks he can get them promoted.

thebaz

delighted for Chris, would like to have seen him as Irish manager.