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WR250F Register for road use ?

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  • 16-06-2019 11:40pm
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    fergus1001
    Registered Users Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭


    Hi just wondering is it easy to register a bike for road use , this model is actually road legal but I'm looking at one that's not registered to buy


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    gctest50
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    VRT and maybe duty


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    fergus1001
    Registered Users Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭fergus1001


    gctest50 wrote:
    VRT and maybe duty


    it's an older bike is there anything special I'd need ?


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    gctest50
    Registered Users Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭gctest50


    Be sure it wasn't stolen from the UK would be nice


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    CJhaughey
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    Need a Cert of Conformity to register for road use.


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    fergus1001
    Registered Users Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭fergus1001


    gctest50 wrote:
    Be sure it wasn't stolen from the UK would be nice


    how would I be able to find that out ?, this bike doesn't have licence plates or indicators at this pressent time I'd have to buy a kit for it


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    CJhaughey
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    Get the VIN number and check it out.


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    fergus1001
    Registered Users Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭fergus1001


    CJhaughey wrote: »
    Get the VIN number and check it out.

    Ok ill ask the seller for the VIN number if hes not willing to give it over ill just have to assume its hot


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    fergus1001
    Registered Users Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭fergus1001


    CJhaughey wrote:
    Get the VIN number and check it out.


    seller said he will send on the vin this evening, is there somewhere I can check it out ?


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    galwaytt
    Registered Users Posts: 12,776 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    fergus1001 wrote: »
    Hi just wondering is it easy to register a bike for road use , this model is actually road legal but I'm looking at one that's not registered to buy

    It can be tricky. Even if road legal, make sure it has an odometer. If it hasn't you'll have bother with VRT.

    Unless you can prove (via MoT's) the mileage is above 6k kms you'll get caught for VAT as well.

    I brought in an Enduro a few years ago, but made sure it was road reg'd already. A friend brought in a Honda at the same time and gave up in the end.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



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    fergus1001
    Registered Users Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭fergus1001


    galwaytt wrote: »
    I brought in an Ensure a few years ago, but made sure it was road reg'd already. A friend brought in a Honda at the same time and gave up in the end.

    I suppose the attraction for me is i can get the non road registered bike significantly cheaper than if it was registered, so i can take a punt at getting it registered ride it around for a while and hopefully trade up for something like a transalp or something similar


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    Interceptor
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    fergus1001 wrote: »
    I suppose the attraction for me is i can get the non road registered bike significantly cheaper than if it was registered, so i can take a punt at getting it registered ride it around for a while and hopefully trade up for something like a transalp or something similar

    I find it hard to believe you'll save a whole lot. By the time you register it, tax it and add any missing items (horn/lights etc) it's hard to see the saving. If it doesn't have a speedo or hour-clock that can be verified you could be in for an expensive top-end rebuild. Making sure it wasn't stolen is up to you - I just wouldn't take any chances in order to save a couple of hundred quid.


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    fergus1001
    Registered Users Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭fergus1001


    well i have the VIN now so trying to find where i can actually find out where I check to see if it's hot or not ?

    on the time and expense side of things something like this that I have to figure out what to do ect appeals to my particular nature I know it's a risk and I'm willing to take it with a few educated guesses and information


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    fergus1001
    Registered Users Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭fergus1001


    fergus1001 wrote:
    well i have the VIN now so trying to find where i can actually find out where I check to see if it's hot or not ?


    ok I got it the VIN shows that it's on zero stolen records all over uk/ Europe

    now question is do I pull the trigger !


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    doctorchopper
    Registered Users Posts: 883 ✭✭✭doctorchopper


    fergus1001 wrote: »
    ok I got it the VIN shows that it's on zero stolen records all over uk/ Europe

    now question is do I pull the trigger !

    Depends, what year is it, how many hours on it, whats the price?


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    fergus1001
    Registered Users Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭fergus1001


    doctorchopper wrote:
    Depends, what year is it, how many hours on it, whats the price?


    it's a 2003 seller was asking for 1800 and I have it at 1400 now, I'm not sure how many hours is on the bike to be honest


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    doctorchopper
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    fergus1001 wrote: »
    it's a 2003 seller was asking for 1800 and I have it at 1400 now, I'm not sure how many hours is on the bike to be honest

    1400 is decent, at that price it doesn't really matter how many hours are on it. be no harm to give it a good going over, compression test, valve adjustment ect...


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    galwaytt
    Registered Users Posts: 12,776 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    Interceptor wrote: »
    I find it hard to believe you'll save a whole lot. By the time you register it, tax it and add any missing items (horn/lights etc) it's hard to see the saving. If it doesn't have a speedo or hour-clock that can be verified you could be in for an expensive top-end rebuild. Making sure it wasn't stolen is up to you - I just wouldn't take any chances in order to save a couple of hundred quid.

    ^^^ this.

    What you'll "save" now you lose at the other end when you sell it IMHO.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



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    fergus1001
    Registered Users Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭fergus1001


    galwaytt wrote:
    What you'll "save" now you lose at the other end when you sell it IMHO.


    see I don't look at it as saving other people look at this and think why bother ? I say bring on a challenge


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    Interceptor
    Registered Users Posts: 3,180 ✭✭✭Interceptor


    fergus1001 wrote: »
    see I don't look at it as saving other people look at this and think why bother ? I say bring on a challenge

    Go for it - let us know how you get on!


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    doctorchopper
    Registered Users Posts: 883 ✭✭✭doctorchopper


    fergus1001 wrote: »
    see I don't look at it as saving other people look at this and think why bother ? I say bring on a challenge

    Just make sure when you bring it in to NCT centre that it has a clock on it with more than 6000km's or you will have to pay vat. Vrt should be cheap enough around 50.


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    fergus1001
    Registered Users Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭fergus1001


    so it defiantly doesn't have a speedo, I was looking at installing a trail tech vapour speedo/odometer on it so I can rock up to the NCT with a Odo reading of more than 6k on it


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    Del2005
    Registered Users Posts: 18,993 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    fergus1001 wrote: »
    so it defiantly doesn't have a speedo, I was looking at installing a trail tech vapour speedo/odometer on it so I can rock up to the NCT with a Odo reading of more than 6k on it

    Doesn't matter as the bike will be going onto a 192 plate, it hasn't been registered before, so you'll have to pay VAT.

    The only issue I can see is if you can actually register it, is it Euro 4 compliant?


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    fergus1001
    Registered Users Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭fergus1001


    Del2005 wrote:
    The only issue I can see is if you can actually register it, is it Euro 4 compliant?


    as far as I'm aware it will be on a 2003 plate as that was the year of manufacture, and it doesn't have to be euro 4 complient just complient with the 2003 regs


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    Del2005
    Registered Users Posts: 18,993 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    fergus1001 wrote: »
    as far as I'm aware it will be on a 2003 plate as that was the year of manufacture, and it doesn't have to be euro 4 complient just complient with the 2003 regs

    Nope, year of manufacture has nothing to do with the year of registration. Any vehicle being registered for the 1st time now has to be Euro 4 or higher.


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    fergus1001
    Registered Users Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭fergus1001


    Del2005 wrote:
    Nope, year of manufacture has nothing to do with the year of registration. Any vehicle being registered for the 1st time now has to be Euro 4 or higher.


    Checked it out with revenue I need the Certificate of conformity to register it, Bikeworld will give me one for 95 euro plus headed paper saying make model and serial number ect


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    Del2005
    Registered Users Posts: 18,993 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    fergus1001 wrote: »
    Checked it out with revenue I need the Certificate of conformity to register it, Bikeworld will give me one for 95 euro plus headed paper saying make model and serial number ect

    Is it Euro 4?


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    fergus1001
    Registered Users Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭fergus1001


    Del2005 wrote:
    Is it Euro 4?


    it's worse than that it doesn't have a CoC so can't be registered, so I'm pulling away from buying the bike

    so anyone googling this topic, make sure the model has a Certificate of Conformity you can check with Bikeworld.ie


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    Del2005
    Registered Users Posts: 18,993 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    fergus1001 wrote: »
    it's worse than that it doesn't have a CoC so can't be registered, so I'm pulling away from buying the bike

    so anyone googling this topic, make sure the model has a Certificate of Conformity you can check with Bikeworld.ie

    Ah feck. At least you found out before you bought it.


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    galwaytt
    Registered Users Posts: 12,776 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    Del2005 wrote: »
    Ah feck. At least you found out before you bought it.

    CoC does not apply if the vehicle was in use before CoC's were a requirement iirc. 1st January 1993 is the cut off date.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



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    Del2005
    Registered Users Posts: 18,993 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    galwaytt wrote: »
    CoC does not apply if the vehicle was in use before CoC's were a requirement iirc. 1st January 1993 is the cut off date.

    The bike was made in 2003 and would have been going on a 192 plate.


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