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Ana Kriegel - Boys A & B found guilty [Mod: Do NOT post identifying information]

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    #7292
    [Deleted User]
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    Reed Panicky Swimmer wrote: »
    Can someone please close the thread?

    The air at the top of the moral high ground has become very thin.

    The thread is nothing more than a ‘thanks accumulator’ for those wishing to express their deep reserves of hatred for two severely damaged teenagers who will (deservedly)pay for their actions every day of their lives.

    Every day of their lives? Unless they die in prison, no they won’t at all. They’ll get out some day.


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    #7293
    brendanwalsh
    Registered Users Posts: 988 ✭✭✭brendanwalsh


    Glad to hear he suffered .
    Unfortunately it’s not enough .
    I am confident it won’t be the last beating he will get while he remains incarcerated


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    #7294
    Truthvader
    Registered Users Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭Truthvader


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Is this your first time hearing about the prison system?

    Nope and know a bit about it. It doesn't matter much if you take the view expressed above that the "little scrote" is never getting out but if he or any other little scrotes are ever to be released at some point it might be intelligent to try to change them for the better

    Same holds true for adults. Mountjoy is a dangerous subhuman zoo where the poorest and most damaged are abandonned (the nice white collar criminals are all out gardening or writing their book in Shelton Abbey) . Usually what comes out is far darker than what goes in. And the next house they visit could be yours.


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    #7295
    Pauliedragon
    Registered Users Posts: 2,800 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    brendanwalsh wrote: »
    Glad to hear he suffered .
    Unfortunately it’s not enough .
    I am confident it won’t be the last beating he will get while he remains incarcerated
    And the person who beat him is such an upstanding part of our society. Lets give him a medal. Oh wait he's a violent criminal too.


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    #7296
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    Pauliedragon wrote: »
    And the person who beat him is such an upstanding part of our society. Lets give him a medal. Oh wait he's a violent criminal too.

    Let the animals wipe each other out.


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    #7297
    Thargor
    Registered Users Posts: 17,949 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    Given what I heard about the conduct of these cretins is Oberstown I can safely say I'm ****ing delighted.

    **** him the the little prick.
    What do we know about their conduct in there? Was something new reported?


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    #7298
    Pauliedragon
    Registered Users Posts: 2,800 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    Let the animals wipe each other out.
    That's an insult to animals. They don't hurt each other for fun. They do it for survival. It shows a bit of ignorance on your behalf to suggest humans are above animals. Violence is wrong in my opinion and 2 wrongs never make a right. Maybe I'm wrong.


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    #7299
    Blaze420
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    Pity the staff didn’t turn a blind eye and let that little **** get what he deserves.


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    #7300
    Rows Grower
    Registered Users Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Carioco wrote: »
    What I mean is they are middle class kids who who grew up soft they are going to have a hard time in a prison with kids from some of the toughest estates in the country.

    I doubt Boy A is throwing his weight around, he'd be killed by the other prisoners.

    I don't think it's the first time they were attacked didn't one of them get attacked before their trial too?

    Just stop, please.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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    #7301
    paleoperson
    Registered Users Posts: 3,522 ✭✭✭paleoperson


    Pauliedragon wrote: »
    That's an insult to animals. They don't hurt each other for fun. They do it for survival. It shows a bit of ignorance on your behalf to suggest humans are above animals. Violence is wrong in my opinion and 2 wrongs never make a right. Maybe I'm wrong.

    It would also be cruel and unusual punishment, you can't have that.

    Either have them flogged as in some countries or have them protected. None of this wink and nod nonsense, that's sick.


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    #7302
    qo2cj1dsne8y4k
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    Pauliedragon wrote: »
    And the person who beat him is such an upstanding part of our society. Lets give him a medal. Oh wait he's a violent criminal too.

    Maybe but at least he didn’t rape and brutally murder another child


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    #7303
    Pauliedragon
    Registered Users Posts: 2,800 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    Camila Hallowed Apple wrote: »
    Maybe but at least he didn’t rape and brutally murder another child
    How do you know that? Prisons are full of people who rape children for fun.


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    #7304
    o1s1n
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    Master of the Universe


    Pauliedragon wrote: »
    That's an insult to animals. They don't hurt each other for fun. They do it for survival. It shows a bit of ignorance on your behalf to suggest humans are above animals. Violence is wrong in my opinion and 2 wrongs never make a right. Maybe I'm wrong.

    Killer Whales, dolphins, domestic cats, wild cats, hyenas all kill prey for fun as well as survival.


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    #7305
    Liam Jealous Sewage
    Registered Users Posts: 3,246 ✭✭✭ Liam Jealous Sewage


    Carioco wrote: »
    What I mean is they are middle class kids who who grew up soft they are going to have a hard time in a prison with kids from some of the toughest estates in the country.

    I doubt Boy A is throwing his weight around, he'd be killed by the other prisoners.

    I don't think it's the first time they were attacked didn't one of them get attacked before their trial too?

    iirc, someone got mistakenly identified as one of them and got attacked....not 100percent sure but i think that whats happened


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    #7306
    Pauliedragon
    Registered Users Posts: 2,800 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Killer Whales, dolphins, domestic cats, wild cats, hyenas all kill prey for fun as well as survival.
    Fair point I'll stand corrected but before I praise the guy who bashed a fella I despise I would like to know why this upstanding citizen is in jail in the first place. This creep will probably sue the prison system now and win and we will all pay for it through our taxes and he'll wander out a free man when his sentence is up in a few years with a hefty few quid in his bank acccount while the rest of us plod along worrying about next months bills.


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    #7307
    qo2cj1dsne8y4k
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    Pauliedragon wrote: »
    How do you know that? Prisons are full of people who rape children for fun.

    It’s oberstown, a crime so vicious and sadistic would have a trial similar to the boy that was attacked.


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    #7308
    Rows Grower
    Registered Users Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    A bit more detail about the assault, and the type of stuff found on his phone after he was arrested...

    https://www.herald.ie/news/anas-murderer-boy-a-is-kicked-and-punched-during-planned-attack-39236880.html

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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    #7309
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Pauliedragon wrote: »
    How do you know that? Prisons are full of people who rape children for fun.

    Oberstown is not a prison. It's a holiday camp for scrotes. No prison guards etc. Hug a thug central. Ice cream van goes out to them every Thursday.



    https://www.thejournal.ie/oberstown-ice-cream-4155500-Aug2018/


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    #7310
    briany
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    The Irish Sun's source alleges that,
    “The lad is a bit of loner and has been trying to throw his weight around a bit in there and it has come back to haunt him."

    Trying to throw his weight around? If that's true, then it further cements the idea that the only thing he's sorry about was getting caught in the first place. You'd imagine most kids who come out of a comfortable suburban background and wind up in Oberstown would want to serve out their time as quietly as possible. Not this one, apparently.


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    #7311
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users Posts: 2,926 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    Oberstown is not a prison. It's a holiday camp for scrotes. No prison guards etc. Hug a thug central. Ice cream van goes out to them every Thursday.



    https://www.thejournal.ie/oberstown-ice-cream-4155500-Aug2018/


    Yep the loony left took over at management level and the place is a kip now .


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    #7312
    Pauliedragon
    Registered Users Posts: 2,800 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    Camila Hallowed Apple wrote: »
    It’s oberstown, a crime so vicious and sadistic would have a trial similar to the boy that was attacked.
    If the guards battered that fella I'd give them a payrise and a party. I just think there's a bigger picture here. If we give a pat on the back to the inmates who hammered him they'll be walking out the door of Oberstown soon enough with the attitude I can batter people if I want to. That's my only concern. It's been proven time and time again that letting violent people away just makes them more violent. Would you want those lads wandering down your street when they get out knowing they are allowed to celebrate violence?


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    #7313
    qo2cj1dsne8y4k
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    Pauliedragon wrote: »
    If the guards battered that fella I'd give them a payrise and a party. I just think there's a bigger picture here. If we give a pat on the back to the inmates who hammered him they'll be walking out the door of Oberstown soon enough with the attitude I can batter people if I want to. That's my only concern. It's been proven time and time again that letting violent people away just makes them more violent. Would you want those lads wandering down your street when they get out knowing they are allowed to celebrate violence?

    I for one wasn’t sitting at home last night worrying about him getting beaten.
    In fact if in 15 years time I saw the same lads beating him outside my house, I wouldn’t even call for help. He deserves to know what it feels like to be scared, because god knows what he made that young girl feel in her last moments.
    If he wants to rape and murder, he’s going to be put into prison with other fine upstanding peers, and I for one am not sorry he’s now matched with bigger and scarier and stronger than he was matched with when he chose Ana to brutally assault and murder.


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    #7314
    Pauliedragon
    Registered Users Posts: 2,800 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    Camila Hallowed Apple wrote: »
    I for one wasn’t sitting at home last night worrying about him getting beaten.
    In fact if in 15 years time I saw the same lads beating him outside my house, I wouldn’t even call for help. He deserves to know what it feels like to be scared, because god knows what he made that young girl feel in her last moments.
    If he wants to rape and murder, he’s going to be put into prison with other fine upstanding peers, and I for one am not sorry he’s now matched with bigger and scarier and stronger than he was matched with when he chose Ana to brutally assault and murder.
    How do you know the lads that beat him aren't rapists themselves?


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    #7315
    qo2cj1dsne8y4k
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    Pauliedragon wrote: »
    How do you know the lads that beat him aren't rapists themselves?

    A child carrying out such heinous acts would whip up a serious media interest, and we’d know about it as we know about boy A and boy B


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    #7316
    salmocab
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    Camila Hallowed Apple wrote: »
    A child carrying out such heinous acts would whip up a serious media interest, and we’d know about it as we know about boy A and boy B

    If they were caught


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    #7317
    Ash.J.Williams
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    Camila Hallowed Apple wrote: »
    A child carrying out such heinous acts would whip up a serious media interest, and we’d know about it as we know about boy A and boy B

    that' s naive


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    #7318
    Sawduck
    Registered Users Posts: 2,712 ✭✭✭Sawduck


    Rows Grower wrote: »
    A bit more detail about the assault, and the type of stuff found on his phone after he was arrested...

    https://www.herald.ie/news/anas-murderer-boy-a-is-kicked-and-punched-during-planned-attack-39236880.html

    He is one seriously messed up kid, hopefully he never gets out, he would be a serious danger to young girls


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    #7319
    Yeah_Right
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    salmocab wrote: »
    If they were caught

    If they weren't caught then why would they be in Oberstown??


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    #7320
    salmocab
    Registered Users Posts: 11,364 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Yeah_Right wrote: »
    If they weren't caught then why would they be in Oberstown??

    Do you think everyone in prison is in for all the crimes they committed or the ones they got caught for.


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    #7321
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
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    Pauliedragon wrote: »
    And the person who beat him is such an upstanding part of our society. Lets give him a medal. Oh wait he's a violent criminal too.

    Wonder if people would still be prasining him if it turned out to be Boy B?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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