Ana Kriegel - Boys A & B found guilty [Mod: Do NOT post identifying information]

iamwhoiam

Former Observer wrote: »

I must say, After reading the first half of that 'article' it seems very inappropriate.

In what way inappropriate ?

weldoninhio

Boggles wrote: »

What's a proper childs prison?

One that doesn't have a f@cking ice-cream van come every Thursday to give the scummers a treat.

One that doesn't have the following happen

"Staff at the centre consistently deal with official complaints made about them. On one occasion last month, a male staff member found himself at the centre of an official complaint because he put the Dublin GAA football match on the TV. A detainee wished to watch something else."

Gimme A Pound

What struck me was how "weird" and quirky one of the boys described himself as (and others did too). Like he was trying to be accepted but pretending to be ok with himself.

weldoninhio

Berserker wrote: »

Talk about hardship! The prisons in this country are an absolute disgrace. Closer to holiday camps than prisons. You'd laugh at the below, if it wasn't so serious.

Oh!! Don't dare call it a prison. :rolleyes:

Gimme A Pound

Former Observer wrote: »

I must say, After reading the first half of that 'article' it seems very inappropriate.

Indo in tasteless tripe shocker

weldoninhio

Boggles wrote: »

Do ye believe all click bait unsourced articles The Journal spunks out?

No, but I believe the local ice cream man who had to be Garda vetted to be allowed go up there every Thursday morning.

Suckit

Her mother said, Ana was very popular in primary school and loved it. She couldn't understand what had changed in secondary school

Former Observer

iamwhoiam wrote: »

In what way inappropriate ?

The tone, particularly in the opening and closing sections is grubby. It should be somber but it reads as sensationalistic. Just another hack trying to get clicks.

Sardonicat

Fan of Netflix wrote: »

If it's the name I've seen there is a couple of pictures that come up on google search of young lads in the area but I'm not surprised that another lad has the same name. I bet those are some of the pictures being shared. Oddly enough I've not seen them named by anyone or pictures shared on twitter, but other posters here are saying it's happening.

Big f up by Red fm!

The dogs in the streets of North Kildare/Lucan must know exactly who they are. Not publishing their identities and photos is just putting innocents with the same names at risk of the mob from outside the area IMO. I don't believe they have right to anonymity. Ana was afforded no such right. She is the victim here.

Electric Sheep

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Casual slagging and acting the dick are one thing, but those who start fist fights or worse with others and cause them injury, those people absolutely should be taken to task. Teenaged or not. Anyone who throws a punch at someone else for absolutely no reason other than being a sadistic piece of sh!t absolutely should be prosecuted for it.

What you consider "casual slagging" can be much more damaging if persistent than punches thrown.

GarIT

Boggles wrote: »

Do ye believe all click bait unsourced articles The Journal spunks out?

I haven't seen anything to the contrary. There was an article yesterday that Boy B was able to request Lego. I didn't have Lego as a child, that was for the rich kids. They should just take what they are given.

The way to deal with an official complaint about ice cream or TV stations is a hiding for the complainer.

I don't think prisons should be like the gulags but there shouldn't be a single minute of enjoying it either.

nehemiah

GarIT wrote: »

I haven't seen anything to the contrary. There was an article yesterday that Boy B was able to request Lego. I didn't have Lego as a child, that was for the rich kids. They should just take what they are given.

The way to deal with an official complaint about ice cream or TV stations is a hiding for the complainer.

I don't think prisons should be like the gulags but there shouldn't be a single minute of enjoying it either.

Did the article say he got lego?

I can request a night with Scarlett Johansson but (so far) she has not got back to me.

GarIT

nehemiah wrote: »

Did the article say he got lego?

I can request a night with Scarlett Johansson but (so far) she has not got back to me.

As far as I can recall no. But the entitlement of being able to ask needs to be fixed whether it was gotten or not.

If a prison is a place where that can be asked without fear of the reprocussions the prison isn't fit for purpose.

D.Q

GarIT wrote: »

I haven't seen anything to the contrary. There was an article yesterday that Boy B was able to request Lego. I didn't have Lego as a child, that was for the rich kids. They should just take what they are given.

The way to deal with an official complaint about ice cream or TV stations is a hiding for the complainer.

I don't think prisons should be like the gulags but there shouldn't be a single minute of enjoying it either.

Jesus.

Someone get Gar some lego, its absence seems to have had a profound effect.

Boggles

GarIT wrote: »

I haven't seen anything to the contrary.

So I can tell you anything and you'd believe based on the fact you can't find anything that disproves it? Really?

GarIT wrote: »

There was an article yesterday that Boy B was able to request Lego. I didn't have Lego as a child, that was for the rich kids. They should just take what they are given.
.

It sounds like you were a child a while ago when institutions regular abused children.

I'll forgive the lego not to go back to those times.

ohnonotgmail

GarIT wrote: »

As far as I can recall no. But the entitlement of being able to ask needs to be fixed whether it was gotten or not.

If a prison is a place where that can be asked without fear of the reprocussions the prison isn't fit for purpose.

and you fix that by giving them a hiding?

Standman

GarIT wrote: »

As far as I can recall no. But the entitlement of being able to ask needs to be fixed whether it was gotten or not.

If a prison is a place where that can be asked without fear of the reprocussions the prison isn't fit for purpose.

You want repercussions for a question being asked?

GarIT

Boggles wrote: »

So I can tell you anything and you'd believe based on the fact you can't find anything that disproves it? Really?



It sounds like you were a child a while ago when institutions regular abused children.

I'll forgive the lego not to go back to those times.

Im young enough, raised on the one parent family payment. I don't think of my childhood as being bad. I don't think anyone's prison experience should be better though.

nehemiah

GarIT wrote: »

As far as I can recall no. But the entitlement of being able to ask needs to be fixed whether it was gotten or not.

If a prison is a place where that can be asked without fear of the reprocussions the prison isn't fit for purpose.

For starters, Boy B wasn't a convicted murderer at the time that request was made.

Secondly, what repercussions do you think there should be for making a request? Surely a simple refusal would suffice, you don't need to beat the **** out him too.

MrFresh

GarIT wrote: »

As far as I can recall no. But the entitlement of being able to ask needs to be fixed whether it was gotten or not.

If a prison is a place where that can be asked without fear of the reprocussions the prison isn't fit for purpose.

He was only on remand. He hadn't been found guilty of anything at that stage.

Somedaythefire

GarIT wrote: »

Im young enough, raised on the one parent family payment. I don't think of my childhood as being bad. I don't think anyone's prison experience should be better though.

So you want them beaten around for asking a question?

Boggles

GarIT wrote: »

Im young enough, raised on the one parent family payment. I don't think of my childhood as being bad. I don't think anyone's prison experience should be better though.

Yeah would love to been locked up as a child if it meant I got lego or ice cream.

Are you okay?

weldoninhio

Boggles wrote: »

So I can tell you anything and you'd believe based on the fact you can't find anything that disproves it? Really?



It sounds like you were a child a while ago when institutions regular abused children.

I'll forgive the lego not to go back to those times.

The poor little murderers, eh? :rolleyes::rolleyes:

GarIT

Somedaythefire wrote: »

So you want them beaten around for asking a question?

Some other posters have pointed out he hadn't been found guilty at the time which does change things. But I do believe people found guilty should fear the consequences of having such entitlement.

ohnonotgmail

GarIT wrote: »

Some other posters have pointed out he hadn't been found guilty at the time which does change things. But I do believe people found guilty should fear the consequences of having such entitlement.

so you think he should be beaten if he asks for it now?

GarIT

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

so you think he should be beaten if he asks for it now?

I don't know if my answer would be allowed on boards.

ohnonotgmail

GarIT wrote: »

I don't know if my answer would be allowed on boards.

I'll take that as a yes.

Gimme A Pound

Complaining about them getting ice cream shouldn't be in the context of "I didn't get ice cream when I was younger" ffs.

Franz Von Peppercorn II

The whole Lego thing is vastly off topic.

Necro

Thank God sense prevailed and both were found guilty. The lies and inconsistencies in Boy B's statements show imo he knew exactly what went down that day.

As for Boy A the evidence was irrefutable, how he thought he would ever get off is beyond me. I hope the judge takes that into account when sentencing - he could have spared Ana's parents of weeks and months of sensationalist media coverage. Instead the deluded monster thought that he somehow might be seen as innocent despite the overwhelming evidence against him.

Both should be locked in a cage for the rest of their lives and never see the sunlight again, I unfortunately have no faith that they won't be out by the time they are 21 like the Bulger murdering animals.