Royal Ascot, day 2 - Wednesday

Earendil

Thrashssacre wrote: »

Do you tend to get you’re money back for a horse that doesn’t leave the trap?

Depends on the bookie. Who was it with?

The Mig

Nice pick MH

Thrashssacre

Earendil wrote: »

Depends on the bookie. Who was it with?

Paddy power done the bet through the app and it’s coming through as a loss so I’d imagine it’s a no

PhuckHugh22

No if the horse comes under starters orders in the stalls or at tape(in the case of NH races) then the bet is in play. By the letter of the law it is classed as a loser unfortunately.

IAMAMORON

Thrashssacre wrote: »

Paddy power done the bet through the app and it’s coming through as a loss so I’d imagine it’s a no

They strictly don't have too. PP are not the worst and have been known to refund refusers before, hang tight they could review it.

Did the horse leave the stalls ?

PhuckHugh22

Ickworth i assume.

BHA reviewed and horse was classed as a runner. So only way you get your money back is if the bookies offer some sort of concession.

Thrashssacre

Just got a 5 euro free bet, fair play to them considering they didn’t have too.

Earendil

Thrashssacre wrote: »

Just got a 5 euro free bet, fair play to them considering they didn’t have too.

Oh my sweet summer child :pac:

IAMAMORON

I see a gamble going on Dashing Willoughby. Nathaniels' definitely like soft ground and the horse should stay. not sure about 5/1 though.

PhuckHugh22

I think i rathered the old 2mile Queens Vase race. Granted there have been 2 decent winners since the changed the conditions.

SonOfGoat

This will be my biggest bet of the meeting, I lumped onto Norway @ 3/1

Chancer3001

some finish to that.

The favourite came 2nd last ....

Thrashssacre

Managed to get a winner with the free bet cheers paddy power lol

The Mig

Drinks on Oisin tonight

PhuckHugh22

PhuckHugh22 wrote: »

Queen Mary: Theory of Time 14/1(1 point win)
Queens Vase: Norway @3/1(1 point win)
Prince of Wales: Crystal Ocean @4/1(1 point win)
Duke of Cambridge: Veracious @10/1(2 points each way 1/5 4 places)
Royal Hunt Cup: Petrus @33/1(1 point each way 1/5 7 places), Mitchum Swagger @40/1(.5 points each way 1/5 6 places, Zwayan @40/1(.5 points each way 1/5 7 places)

*There are better prices and terms available for some of these but these are the prices and terms I could get on at so not going to put up something I can't get.
**Adding a bet in the Queen Mary

Staked: 11 points

With the conditions turning a bit sticky. Have added another 1 point win on Crystal Ocean still at 4/1.

Total staked today: 12

Mostly Harmless

Doubled down on Sea Of Class at around 5/1 on betfair here, market schmarket, best horse in race

FatRat

FatRat wrote: »

In the 3.05 I think Dashing Willoughby will improve again up another 2f. I don't think the race was ran right for him when he finished close 3rd behind Norway at Chester. He set quite a slow gallop from the start. This will be a much different race now and probably will be a more staying test. Norway probably has his measure but at 10/1 he is worth a few pound.

Delighted with this Norway's run too bad to be true there

Mostly Harmless wrote: »

Doubled down on Sea Of Class at around 5/1 on betfair here, market schmarket, best horse in race

Agreed

IAMAMORON

Haggas has pulled Seniority from the Hunt Cup. Given that (Seniority) is the Queen of England's horse he obviously is ok with running Sea of class on the ground.

He is going for it. I think 4/1 is a nice price, she is a cracking filly.

Just interviewed at the saddling enclosure there, " nervous " but " we need to get a run into her " " she is a racehorse" .

You have to admire the Japanese horse, I love the name. Can you imagine shouting " hon Deirdre , gwan Deirdre , get up Deirdre"

Always Tired

Haggas sounding like Sea of Class has no chance.

Won't get any points for originality but I'll take Magical. A good few of the horses who have won or been close in that Tattersalls Gold Cup have won or been shd 2nd in this race. Easy to say she didn't beat a whole lot there but she hacked up. Back in 2012 So You Think won that race by 6L and followed up in this.

I think Magical will handle the ground okay, she seems versatile that way having ran so well in the Breeders Cup

mailburner

magical but not at the price

hard to know what to make of sea of class after listening to haggas

Slattsy

Sea of Class at the prices.

Always Tired

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Haggas has pulled Seniority from the Hunt Cup. Given that (Seniority) is the Queen of England's horse he obviously is ok with running Sea of class on the ground.

He is going for it. I think 4/1 is a nice price, she is a cracking filly.

Just interviewed at the saddling enclosure there, " nervous " but " we need to get a run into her " " she is a racehorse" .

You have to admire the Japanese horse, I love the name. Can you imagine shouting " hon Deirdre , gwan Deirdre , get up Deirdre"

I would not touch Sea of Class after his comments. Wasnt going to anyway. Dont think theyll give her a hard race here and coming from the back as is her style aint gonna happen under these circumstances

PhuckHugh22

Sea of Class 13/2 on the exchange now.
Friendless!

Brock Turnpike

Always Tired wrote: »

Haggas sounding like Sea of Class has no chance.

His interview put me off the horse. Sounded really uncomfortable with even running the horse because of the rain.

Thrashssacre

Had hunting horn at 66/1 on an each way bet.... fuming.

PhuckHugh22

Oh Frankie that was magnifique

mailburner

perfect by frankie

NeonWolf

Not had a winner all week.

PhuckHugh22

NeonWolf wrote: »

Not had a winner all week.

We are only a day and a half in. Keep the faith

UrbanFret

Brock Turnpike wrote: »

His interview put me off the horse. Sounded really uncomfortable with even running the horse because of the rain.

What the **** did he run it for then? Never tried a yard anyway. Non Trier if ever there was one.

RivetingRoger

Stradivarius loses tomorrow and i am doing a Gav Shels on it and giving up this flat rat nonsense!

IAMAMORON

Joan Collins on the Champagne there. I have to admit she is a bit like marmite etc.

I definitely would though. She gets a nod on the " Wudja " scale.

I am a bad bad man.

GoneHome

What did Ryan Moore say there as he was going into the weigh room after that race, wasn't happy anyway but I couldn't catch what he said

IAMAMORON

GoneHome wrote: »

What did Ryan Moore say there as he was going into the weigh room after that race, wasn't happy anyway but I couldn't catch what he said

With any luck " I am retiring with immediate effect "

Mostly Harmless

show me the money.1 wrote: »

Southern Rock wins this I think.

Best tipster on the forum confirmed there

Peintre Celebre

Backed Hand on Heart 50's e/w 4 places. She is an improving filly and didn't get the rub of the green last time behind an in form rival. She's still lightly raced and could outrun her odds

realdanbreen

Mostly Harmless wrote: »

Best tipster on the forum confirmed there

Yeah it's brilliant when those 2/1 favs come in:D

TheMilkyPirate

UrbanFret wrote: »

What the **** did he run it for then? Never tried a yard anyway. Non Trier if ever there was one.

He said it himself before the race 'she's a racehorse I have to get a run into her'

And she stayed on well from the back certainly wouldn't call her a non trier. Pocket talk.

tryfix

PhuckHugh22 wrote: »

Oh Frankie that was magnifique

He's so hungry to win and seems to be reading many races to perfection.

That was a really top class race with the first three rated well into the 120s, even with the rain making things messy it was solid form. The winner looks like he could be a Ulysses this year. Couldn't necessarily see any of the field winning the Arc ( though I'm very soft on Magical for the Arc and Found had plenty of defeats on the way there ) but the top three are good enough to place in it and Sea Of Class can be excused today's run.

Need to find a 3yo who could put it up to them in the Arc, not an easy task.

Mostly Harmless

realdanbreen wrote: »

Yeah it's brilliant when those 2/1 favs come in:D

The man put up the winner of one race, that's good enough for me. Next time you back a winner, treat yourself to a sense of humour.

IAMAMORON

I am having a fiver on Preening. Fanshawe knows his fillies.

slimshady007

Dutching Pretty Baby and Di Fede in the next. Favourite's form is very up and down so doesn't appeal at all.

mailburner

Mostly Harmless wrote: »

Best tipster on the forum confirmed there

realdanbreen wrote: »

Yeah it's brilliant when those 2/1 favs come in:D

spent a long time here in the past and whilst I don't know who the best tipster is I certainly know who's the worst.
I don't want to go digging again dan but if I have to I will :cool:

BumperD

Settle for Bay to repeat last years victory? Hoping between him and what’s the story

UrbanFret

Nice to hear Haggas praising Doyle for "not trying" on Sea the Class in the big one. Hope the stewards had a word .

Mostly Harmless

One of my original bets, Breden, now a non runner in Hunt Cup, preferred So Beloved on form of the two I had bet but high draws look the way to go on all available evidence.

Small bit on Circus Couture instead of Breden to keep the high/low balance.

PhuckHugh22

tryfix wrote: »

He's so hungry to win and seems to be reading many races to perfection.

That was a really top class race with the first three rated well into the 120s, even with the rain making things messy it was solid form. The winner looks like he could be a Ulysses this year. Couldn't necessarily see any of the field winning the Arc ( though I'm very soft on Magical for the Arc and Found had plenty of defeats on the way there ) but the top three are good enough to place in it and Sea Of Class can be excused today's run.

Need to find a 3yo who could put it up to them in the Arc, not an easy task.

The conditions just turned completely into his favour. Frankie wise to Hunting Horn trying to set steady fractions and pushed him all the way. It was clever as he knew his horse stays well and lacks that finishing kick a la the 2 fillies.

PhuckHugh22

Am i right in saying Danny Tudhope is leading Jockey? Not watching the coverage since the Prince of Wales but he is on 3 winners right?

Mostly Harmless

PhuckHugh22 wrote: »

Am i right in saying Danny Tudhope is leading Jockey? Not watching the coverage since the Prince of Wales but he is on 3 winners right?

Assume so, riding at Ripon tomorrow though :pac:

munster87

I’ve backed Red Starlight in the 5:00. Drifted to a nice each way price now. 50/1 6 places Boyles