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Beasty

McMurphy wrote: »

Maybe have a word with one of the mods so, because when I queried the yellow I was told "they're aware and it's been reported to admin and being investigated"

As admin, you're presumably part of the crowd that's investigating it, and I'm not the only poster that's noted the rereg either.

I have had limited time on the site recently due to a number of medical issues

I've now seen the post where you openly accused a poster of being a re-reg, and I can confirm I can find no evidence to support any such allegations. Maybe report rather than trying to take things into your own hands? Then you can advise us who you think they could be a re-reg of, as then I could do a more in-depth review

Anyway, this is all off-topic for this thread. Please take it to PM if you wish to discuss this further

osarusan

Thread like the Helen McEntee one make you wonder why you bother visiting a forum populated by such obnoxious d!ckheads.

osarusan

osarusan wrote: »

Thread like the Helen McEntee one make you wonder why you bother visiting a forum populated by such obnoxious d!ckheads.

Pretty much the usual cast of the undateables reboot, people who like to blame anyone else but themselves for what ever is wrong with their lives and shills that appear in most threads like it and others.

Fr_Dougal

osarusan wrote: »

Thread like the Helen McEntee one make you wonder why you bother visiting a forum populated by such obnoxious d!ckheads.

That thread wasn’t started in good faith. It was started as a dog whistle and achieved what it set out to do.

osarusan

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

That thread wasn’t started in good faith. It was started as a dog whistle and achieved what it set out to do.

Obviously so, and hopefully their blatant bad faith posting will be something the mods notice.

ancapailldorcha

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

That thread wasn’t started in good faith. It was started as a dog whistle and achieved what it set out to do.

I just don't post in the forum and as a result I enjoy my time on the site. It's the same nonsense over and over again. It's beyond me what people get posting the same things onto a message board repeatedly. A shame because you do get good contibutions here and there in fairness but the sheer volume of negativity, hatred and bigotry just isn't worth it IMO.

Hotblack Desiato

So Boards and its users should tolerate hatred and bigotry? "Sure just ignore it if you don't like it" ?

Really?

ancapailldorcha

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

So Boards and its users should tolerate hatred and bigotry? "Sure just ignore it if you don't like it" ?

Really?

I was just giving my own two cents. I neither set or have I any input whatsoever into Boards policy.

Invidious

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

So Boards and its users should tolerate hatred and bigotry? "Sure just ignore it if you don't like it" ?

The perennial problem is that many posters are eager to define any opinion with which they disagree as "hatred and bigotry," when often the views being expressed don't rise to that level at all.

ShineOn7

Very blatant Far Right propaganda nonsense from Gemma & Co is starting to infiltrate the Covid forum since the vaccine was announced

Please be more vigilant to it. Mis/Dis-information is going to be everywhere from these eejits

Maybe a rule that no one with less than 500 posts can start a new thread in this Sub?

Something like this is needed or the Mods are in for a tough 6-12 months ahead with troll accounts

.anon.

Invidious wrote: »

The perennial problem is that many posters are eager to define any opinion with which they disagree as "hatred and bigotry," when often the views being expressed don't rise to that level at all.

It depends on your perspective. A hate-filled bigot, for example, is unlikely to read some of the bigoted, hate-filled crap that gets spouted in Current Affairs and think to himself (or indeed herself), "there's a lot of hatred and bigotry in this forum". Whereas everyone else is disgusted by it.

.anon.

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Something like this is needed or the Mods are in for a tough 6-12 months ahead with troll accounts

Not necessarily - they could just carry on being absolutely pathetic and useless, doing fuck-all about the racism problem. Why bother dealing with it when it's easier to dish out infractions to anyone who calls a racist a racist.

.anon.

.anon. wrote: »

It depends on your perspective.

This part, correct.

The rest, meh.

EmmetSpiceland

.anon. wrote: »

It depends on your perspective. A hate-filled bigot, for example, is unlikely to read some of the bigoted, hate-filled crap that gets spouted in Current Affairs and think to himself (or indeed herself), "there's a lot of hatred and bigotry in this forum". Whereas everyone else is disgusted by it.

What I find strange is when the racist, etc., posters get “done” for their nonsense and then you find them starting threads in the “Dispute Resolution” forum bleating about being “targeted” by the mods.

And, worse still, they start dragging in other posters like a school child after they’ve been scolded, bottom lip trembling ‘but dey cwall’d me a...a...a WAAAYSIST!!!’.

On a separate point, the “Wokeism of the Day” thread in AH is like having a CA embassy in there. I think it could really come into its “own” if it were sent over there. Just a suggestion.

Quantum Erasure

Surprised you didnt suggest that sooner, tbh

ExMachina1000

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

What I find strange is when the racist, etc., posters get “done” for their nonsense and then you find them starting threads in the “Dispute Resolution” forum bleating about being “targeted” by the mods.

And, worse still, they start dragging in other posters like a school child after they’ve been scolded, bottom lip trembling ‘but dey cwall’d me a...a...a WAAAYSIST!!!’.

On a separate point, the “Wokeism of the Day” thread in AH is like having a CA embassy in there. I think it could really come into its “own” if it were sent over there. Just a suggestion.

Yes. I agree. Send it our way so it can be given the attention it deserves

EmmetSpiceland

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

Surprised you didnt suggest that sooner, tbh

I’m not sure, but I may have mentioned it in the early stages of the thread, itself, Q.

Aside from being a CA “staging point” my other fear is that it would get locked in AH and, to me, that would be a shame because it’s actually a decent thread. Aside for some “uncivil”, and personal, attacks which, I’m sure, we would all condemn.

ShineOn7

.anon. wrote: »

Not necessarily - they could just carry on being absolutely pathetic and useless, doing fuck-all about the racism problem. Why bother dealing with it when it's easier to dish out infractions to anyone who calls a racist a racist.

Have never seen a racist post or poster last longer than an hour max on Boards

It's, rightly, stamped out immediately

ShineOn7

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Have never seen a racist post or poster last longer than an hour max on Boards

It's, rightly, stamped out immediately

I've seen plenty of dog whistle threads go on for a fair bit and the posters haven't been banned. Can also think of a poster who is still happily posting horrible views after saying refugees on boats should be killed.

excludedbin

Invidious wrote: »

The perennial problem is that many posters are eager to define any opinion with which they disagree as "hatred and bigotry," when often the views being expressed don't rise to that level at all.

The perennial problem is that many posters are eager to excuse any and all bigotry as "just a different opinion" or set a standard so comically high that it's functionally impossible to meet.

.anon. wrote: »

Why bother dealing with it when it's easier to dish out infractions to anyone who calls a racist a racist.

That remains the most mystifying aspect of rule enforcement on the site, symptomatic of the wider problem of punishing the people who respond to trolls rather than the trolls themselves.

Past a point, all the bluster about racism not being allowed appears to be nothing more than arse-covering. How many times now has it been brought to their attention and yet nothing beyond meaningless platitudes are offered? **** or get off the pot; don't say it's not tolerated and then brazenly tolerate it. Don't put rules in charters about it and then do nothing with them.

If you're scared about driving away potential traffic then consider the kind of people you're driving away instead and what kind of userbase you're eventually going to be left with. CA may not yet be as bad as, say, Voat, but that's the direction it's headed in.

Acosta

The CA forum is an absolute sewer at the moment. I've never seen it this bad in my time here. If it gets much worse they'll have the rename it the national party forum.

ExMachina1000

Acosta wrote: »

The CA forum is an absolute sewer at the moment. I've never seen it this bad in my time here. If it gets much worse they'll have the rename it the national party forum.

Could you post some examples for all to see.

Gatling

Acosta wrote: »

The CA forum is an absolute sewer at the moment. I've never seen it this bad in my time here. If it gets much worse they'll have the rename it the national party forum.

No it's not ,

It's always find it funny how people who don't post in certain forums are happy to sit there making various claims about what's in threads and never backing it up ,
I've seen claims of threats of violence and other fantastical claims being made in various threads but yet nobody else sees it including mods ,cmods and admins.

Acosta

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Could you post some examples for all to see.

The child grooming thread over the past 24 hours is full of racist and islamophobic posts.

Gatling wrote: »

No it's not ,

It's always find it funny how people who don't post in certain forums are happy to sit there making various claims about what's in threads and never backing it up ,
I've seen claims of threats of violence and other fantastical claims being made in various threads but yet nobody else sees it including mods ,cmods and admins.

I regularly post on plenty of threads on the CA forum. These days I tend to stay well clear of the threads that attract far right undesirables. I do this because I have no interest in engaging with these people and I have previously reported racist posts which were not removed.
Not that anyone needs to post on these threads to report them if they feel the need. I'm sure many just read more than they post on boards. I do try to stay away from even reading these threads, but I ended up reading some of them yesterday and some of it was utterly disgusting.

By the way I am not saying that everyone I disagree with on these types of topics are racist or hateful.

TomTomTim

Acosta wrote: »

The child grooming thread over the past 24 hours is full of racist and islamophobic posts.

You still haven't shown us any racist posts. You say "full" yet haven't managed one example.

Gervais08

TomTomTim wrote: »

You still haven't shown us any racist posts. You say "full" yet haven't managed one example.

What they are full of are posters bafflingly deflecting and defending child rapists by the usual tactics of “racism” and “far right” accusations.

And one really pathetic example of conflating organized gangs of rapists from a particular cultural background with a report on a ”gang rape” which whilst sickening is nowhere near on the same level as 30-40 men targeting hundreds of vulnerable young children.

ExMachina1000

Acosta wrote: »

The child grooming thread over the past 24 hours is full of racist and islamophobic posts.
.

Be realistic. If the media has reported on a case of child grooming, named the suspects and those suspects are members of a Muslim community and this kind of thing has happened numerous times what do you expect people to post?

These are the facts of what happened and same has happened before. There was controversy with police not investigating previous now known incidents on a large scale and throughout the UK.

Virtue signalling is just ignoring what happened and being more focused on the language of posters.
People come to discuss what happened and society in general. Society is real life.

What you are on is some sort of side mission.

Gervais08

There are now four posters banned from the thread about the child sexual exploitation arrests thread for “taking it off topic” and yet they are trying to get it back ON topic following “but the priests did worse”.

The goal - stated outright - of some posters is to have the discussion ended. The moderation is helping them on that thread.

Acosta

TomTomTim wrote: »

You still haven't shown us any racist posts. You say "full" yet haven't managed one example.

I'm not sure it's appropriate for me to be posting what I believe to be racism on this thread. I'm pretty sure the procedure is to report these posts and let the mods deal with it. And I have already done this. I have told you where to find it.

Gervais08 wrote: »

What they are full of are posters bafflingly deflecting and defending child rapists by the usual tactics of “racism” and “far right” accusations.

And one really pathetic example of conflating organized gangs of rapists from a particular cultural background with a report on a ”gang rape” which whilst sickening is nowhere near on the same level as 30-40 men targeting hundreds of vulnerable young children.

If certain posters could discuss these issues without demonising an entire religion and rattling off the usual islamphobic and racist rubbish people wouldn't complain. It's clear a few people have an agenda given the amount of threads like this popping up almost daily.
Given the state of your posts over most of these threads I wouldn't expect you to agree.

Gervais08

Acosta wrote: »

I'm not sure it's appropriate for me to be posting what I believe to be racism on this thread. I'm pretty sure the procedure is to report these posts and let the mods deal with it. And I have already done this. I have told you where to find it.



If certain posters could discuss these issues without demonising an entire religion and rattling off the usual islamphobic and racist rubbish people wouldn't complain. It's clear a few people have an agenda given the amount of threads like this popping up almost daily.
Given the state of your posts over most of these threads I wouldn't expect you to agree.

I wouldn’t agree because you’re posting nonsense here.

How pray tell is it possible to discuss rape grooming gangs comprised of 84% Pakistani and Bangladeshi men without discussing why the percentage is so high??