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Gemma not taking enforced retirement too well

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    #3242
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 82,779 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Isn't CAO data pretty useful here


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    #3243
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Well you know you seem to think Irish people offering their homes to refugees/asylum seekers is a great idea.

    Willing people. I'm not one of them. Are you?


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    #3244
    recedite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    If you want the exact number, you'll have to ask one of the lefty professors in one of the colleges who organise this virtue signalling crap.


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    #3245
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 82,779 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Willing people. I'm not one of them. Are you?

    Why then do you have the right to lecture solutions to other people you will not do yourself? Far cry from leadership by example.


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    #3246
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 41,062 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Willing people. I'm not one of them. Are you?

    Oh right ok. So you don't think it's a great idea at all then.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #3247
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 41,062 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    recedite wrote: »
    If you want the exact number, you'll have to ask one of the lefty professors in one of the colleges who organise this virtue signalling crap.

    Right yeah. Racist scaremongering as I indicated earlier.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #3248
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 82,779 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    recedite wrote: »
    If you want the exact number, you'll have to ask one of the lefty professors in one of the colleges who organise this virtue signalling crap.

    Which is a roundabout raspberrying way of saying No, there is no data to even remotely support your accusation:
    And BTW, even if an asylum seeker student gets low points in the Leaving Cert, they're gonna be able to go to college because there is plenty of funding allocated to them, and scarce places are given out on "scholarships" at the expense of Irish students with higher points, who then miss out.

    And you dare lecture ANYONE else on this forum about Defamation, Slander, or Libel? :eek: Here you are admitting point blank that you are typing out complete falsehoods with no substantiated or even alleged facts behind you, to take broad swipes at "lefty professors" who are "organizing" this fickle little conspiracy theory you've concocted - and yet you are presenting it as a matter of fact.


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    #3249
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Oh right ok. So you don't think it's a great idea at all then.

    Do you not understand what "willing people" means?


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    #3250
    recedite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    Overheal wrote: »
    Which is a roundabout raspberrying way of saying No, there is no data to even remotely support your accusation:
    And you dare lecture ANYONE else on this forum about Defamation, Slander, or Libel? :eek:
    Of course there is data. I'm not privy to it though, and I'm not even going to go searching for it because even if it was publicly available, it is likely to be hidden away, or disguised, or made inaccessible in some way.
    Do you not understand that allocating college places is a zero sum game? That is the whole purpose and function of the CAO - to decide who gets a place and who does not.

    Scholarships which artificially lower the points requirement for certain "preferred people" subvert this (otherwise merit-based) process.


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    #3251
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 41,062 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    recedite wrote: »
    Of course there is data. I'm not privy to it though, and I'm not even going to go searching for it because even if it was publicly available, it is likely to be hidden away, or disguised, or made inaccessible in some way.
    Do you not understand that allocating college places is a zero sum game? That is the whole purpose and function of the CAO - to decide who gets a place and who does not.

    Scholarships which artificially lower the points requirement for certain "preferred people" subvert this (otherwise merit-based) process.

    So you have no proof whatsoever of your claims and you refuse to provide it.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #3252
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    recedite wrote: »
    Of course there is data. I'm not privy to it though, and I'm not even going to go searching for it because even if it was publicly available, it is likely to be hidden away, or disguised, or made inaccessible in some way.
    Do you not understand that allocating college places is a zero sum game? That is the whole purpose and function of the CAO - to decide who gets a place and who does not.

    Scholarships which artificially lower the points requirement for certain "preferred people" subvert this (otherwise merit-based) process.

    It's a bit like gender quotas. Not earned.
    A step backwards in evolution.

    The strongest or brightest should be at the top as they have earned it. Otherwise it doesn't work.

    It's insulting to women too. You got the job because you were born female. Well done


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    #3253
    recedite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    It's a bit like gender quotas. Not earned.
    A step backwards in evolution.
    Exactly.


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    #3254
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 41,062 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Maybe we should reverse the whole sufragette movement and bring in the handmaids tale to please some posters around here.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #3255
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 82,779 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    recedite wrote: »
    Of course there is data. I'm not privy to it though, and I'm not even going to go searching for it because even if it was publicly available, it is likely to be hidden away, or disguised, or made inaccessible in some way.
    Which is a meandering manner of saying you pulled it entirely out of your hat.
    Scholarships which artificially lower the points requirement for certain "preferred people" subvert this (otherwise merit-based) process.

    Which scholarship/points-tweaking activities are you referring to exactly?


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    #3256
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Maybe we should reverse the whole sufragette movement and bring in the handmaids tale to please some posters around here.

    What is it with people on the left and handmaids tale crap, its a fictional show and at no point has Ireland been anything like that and nobody, not even the far right is looking for ireland to become anything remotely like that.

    The only group vaugely calling for opression of women in modern Ireland is the islamic community.


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    #3257
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Maybe we should reverse the whole sufragette movement and bring in the handmaids tale to please some posters around here.

    Maybe both genders should be treated as equal and jobs awarded on merit.

    The best person for the job and all that.

    Applies in all of life's situations.


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    #3258
    [Deleted User]
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    Why are so many racists also sexist?


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    #3259
    cookie1977
    Registered Users Posts: 6,794 ✭✭✭cookie1977


    recedite wrote: »
    If you want the exact number, you'll have to ask one of the lefty professors in one of the colleges who organise this virtue signalling crap.
    Yes, down with that sort of thing. To hell with facts! We need stories!


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    #3260
    Stephen15
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    I just posted a link to an article that says we're one the toughest countries, if not the toughest on immigration.

    Do you actually read any links people send?

    Are you so entrenched in your views that no amount of proof whatsoever will change them?

    The link you sent seems to be contradicted by this more recent article so which one is the truth

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/ireland-has-lowest-refusal-rate-of-asylum-applicants-920320.html


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    #3261
    cookie1977
    Registered Users Posts: 6,794 ✭✭✭cookie1977


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    The link you sent seems to be contradicted by this more recent article so which one is the truth

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/ireland-has-lowest-refusal-rate-of-asylum-applicants-920320.html


    Hmmm, quote:
    "The number of asylum seekers granted protection in Ireland last year represented 265 per million population — less than half the EU average of 650 per million."

    Please read your own stories before hanging your entire argument on them.


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    #3262
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Why are so many racists also sexist?

    Who are you calling Racist?


    By saying both genders should be treated equal?


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    #3263
    [Deleted User]
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    cookie1977 wrote: »
    Hmmm, quote:
    "The number of asylum seekers granted protection in Ireland last year represented 265 per million population — less than half the EU average of 650 per million."

    Please read your own stories before hanging your entire argument on them.


    That is quite the spectacular own goal there, Stephen.


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    #3264
    Stephen15
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    cookie1977 wrote: »
    Hmmm, quote:
    "The number of asylum seekers granted protection in Ireland last year represented 265 per million population — less than half the EU average of 650 per million."

    Please read your own stories before hanging your entire argument on them.

    Still should be lower


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    #3265
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 82,779 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    What is it with people on the left and handmaids tale crap, its a fictional show and at no point has Ireland been anything like that and nobody, not even the far right is looking for ireland to become anything remotely like that.

    The only group vaugely calling for opression of women in modern Ireland is the islamic community.

    So that's why the repeal of the 8th passed by a 90:1 margin and no challenges?


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    #3266
    AndrewJRenko
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    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    What is it with people on the left and handmaids tale crap, its a fictional show and at no point has Ireland been anything like that and nobody, not even the far right is looking for ireland to become anything remotely like that.
    The last Magdaline laundry closed in the 1990s. Homosexual sex was illegal into the 90s. Those of us who lived through the 70s and 80s remember well when Ireland was controlled by priests, brothers and other authoritarians.



    And some of us are going to make sure that we're not going back there.


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    #3267
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Overheal wrote: »
    So that's why the repeal of the 8th passed by a 90:1 margin and no challenges?

    That's kind of his point


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    #3268
    cookie1977
    Registered Users Posts: 6,794 ✭✭✭cookie1977


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    Still should be lower
    Magnanimous in defeat too.


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    #3269
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 82,779 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    That's kind of his point

    How so?


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    #3270
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    The last Magdaline laundry closed in the 1990s. Homosexual sex was illegal into the 90s. Those of us who lived through the 70s and 80s remember well when Ireland was controlled by priests, brothers and other authoritarians.



    And some of us are going to make sure that we're not going back there.

    How will you do this?
    By dilution of Catholics with Islam?
    Is that the grand plan


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    #3271
    Stephen15
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    The last Magdaline laundry closed in the 1990s. Homosexual sex was illegal into the 90s. Those of us who lived through the 70s and 80s remember well when Ireland was controlled by priests, brothers and other authoritarians.



    And some of us are going to make sure that we're not going back there.

    Do you support Islamic immigration?


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