Gemma not taking enforced retirement too well

NickNickleby

irishgrover wrote: »

I think the main spine of your assumption is incorrect.
Gemma is very clearly a racist agitator and a coward. She is a piece of **** and knowns expactly what she is doing and why she is doing it. She is not attacking Moirketing types, she is attacking people who are not white and christian. She may used various guises to "legitimise" her approach and make people "think" that mabye she is really attacking "politically correct moirketing", but she is not. She is just a bog standard racist c*nt.

Wow, I presume you're not one of her followers then:pac:

Well, as I said, my post was written in the context of the report in the IT and my reading of the tweet in that report.

In all honesty, that's as much as I know about the woman. I've no doubt that your strongly expressed feelings are genuine and based on much more information than I have (at the moment). I'm going to look at some more of her stuff, although Twitter isn't something I use, so I'll need to familiarise myself with it. As you read in my post, Twitter is not something I consider to be worthy of my valuable time, and I'd guess our protagonist uses it as probably one of the few places available to her to get publicity for her, er, musings.

Again, the real problem is that while we can all reject her stuff as racist tripe, I believe there's a greater problem - Twitter! If it was just her typing racist stuff and conning fools like me to see a legitimate argument, so what. But its the racists/xenophobes that latch on to her that is the real problem. Without wanting to break a famous Internet 'law' , we all know that to persuade the populace that there is a bogeyman can end in tragedy.

Lastly, do you think she could ever persuade us all to become racists? I personally don't. Racists already exist with or without her. But thankfully in Ireland they would seem to be a very tiny minority. That doesn't mean I think 'freedom of speech' can be used by anyone like that as a cover.

topper75

Johnny Mathis - that can't be real, can it?

"A ray of hope - flickers in the sky..." ♪♫

Yeah, probably too early for that.

From my own perspective - if the proportion of dark-skinned people in ads relates to that of the population - fine. Beyond that (in either direction) you probably have to wonder what is going on.

NickNickleby

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

incels?

hahaha, had to look that up. In my day, that WASN'T a badge of honour.

irishgrover

NickNickleby wrote: »

Wow, I presume you're not one of her followers then:pac:

I "follow" her on twitter, not on ideology

NickNickleby wrote: »

Well, as I said, my post was written in the context of the report in the IT and my reading of the tweet in that report.

Fully understand the context of your post. Was responding to your hypothesis and nothing else

NickNickleby wrote: »

In all honesty, that's as much as I know about the woman. I've no doubt that your strongly expressed feelings are genuine and based on much more information than I have (at the moment). I'm going to look at some more of her stuff, although Twitter isn't something I use, so I'll need to familiarise myself with it. As you read in my post, Twitter is not something I consider to be worthy of my valuable time, and I'd guess our protagonist uses it as probably one of the few places available to her to get publicity for her, er, musings.

agreed, her capacity to product content for mass consumption is being reduced as providers of content platforms don't want to be associated with or be seen to facilitate her racism and hate speech

NickNickleby wrote: »

Again, the real problem is that while we can all reject her stuff as racist tripe, I believe there's a greater problem - Twitter! If it was just her typing racist stuff and conning fools like me to see a legitimate argument, so what. But its the racists/xenophobes that latch on to her that is the real problem. Without wanting to break a famous Internet 'law' , we all know that to persuade the populace that there is a bogeyman can end in tragedy.

F*uck Godwin, she's an all out national socialist

NickNickleby wrote: »

Lastly, do you think she could ever persuade us all to become racists? I personally don't. Racists already exist with or without her. But thankfully in Ireland they would seem to be a very tiny minority. That doesn't mean I think 'freedom of speech' can be used by anyone like that as a cover.

Your last point is interesting and one that I struggle with on a personal level. Do you ignore the people that propagate hate or do you shine a light on them? Cut off their oxygen by ignoring them, or shine a light in their face so they cant hide in the corners?
I was previously of the school of thought that you ignore them. However I am no longer of that opinion. If people have a platform for hate and racism then I think it is part of my civic duty to call them out on it. This kind of hatred is a pox on our society. If you ignore it then if festers and breeds. Do I think that Gemma can turn the whole country racist. No I don't. Do I think that she could directly or indirectly encourage some random non white non christian person to get harassed, or the **** beaten out of them, or murdered? Yes, I absolutely do. So I am clear and unequivocal, she is a nasty racist who is a danger to society.

KaneToad

topper75 wrote: »

Johnny Mathis - that can't be real, can it?

"A ray of hope - flickers in the sky..." ♪♫

Yeah, probably too early for that.

From my own perspective - if the proportion of dark-skinned people in ads relates to that of the population - fine. Beyond that (in either direction) you probably have to wonder what is going on.

Lidl are no fools. They, and their ad agency, do their research. They choose their participants based on their target market. They don't give two hoots about being socially 'woke'. They just care about maximising their profit. They've no hidden agenda.

This family composition appeals to their market. And why shouldn't it, we are not the mono cultural nation we once were. Gemma can go fu(k herself.

Stark

That or Lidl put a callout for families to feature in their ads, this family applied (they said themselves they were cash strapped and this was a good way to earn an extra few quid) and Lidl being the woke, PC, far-left, snowflakes that they are, decided not to reject them just because they were mixed race.

Gregor Samsa

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Because diversity in advertising doesnt extend to names as people dont like names that dont sound familiar,

Yeah, this is why Lidl are suppressing those weird foreign sounding surnames.

Oh, wait...



https://www.lidl.ie/the-big-save/the-families/the-big-save-the-henry-ilhas

As for the Ryans, they make it pretty clear who the family consists of:

https://www.lidl.ie/the-big-save/the-families/the-big-save-the-ryan-family

They're the only family out of the 5 in the campaign that are extended in any way, and that just means her parents are included. It's not like they've a load of hidden cousins doing secret shopping we're not being told about.

One would be really, really, really clutching at straws to claim that there's some kind of deception going on here. And Lidl no longer sell straws to clutch

NickNickleby

irishgrover wrote: »

........... directly or indirectly encourage some random non white non christian person to get harassed, or the **** beaten out of them, or murdered? Yes, I absolutely do. So I am clear and unequivocal, she is a nasty racist who is a danger to society.

Its good to see that written down. I always fall into the trap of thinking about racism or any of the 'phobias' at a societal level. Hence my "Ireland isn't racist" remark. But as you rightly highlight, that doesn't matter at an individual level.

I have three adult children now, and they all have the greatest respect for everyone and are oblivious as to colour or race. Their friends would be of similar persuasion. I believe they will pass on these values when the time comes. All is not lost.

ArmaniJeanss

Critiqued wrote: »

I agree with Gemma in this instance. Why did they have to lie about the chaps name? Could they not find an Irish man with an Irish name. Or is this a diversity ad?

Just in case you think there's some 'agenda' on Lidl's part here, it should be pointed out that they do use a lot of Irish people with Irish names.
e.g, everyone featured on their front page (roughly 15 people across different ads) this week is white. That's the way it is most weeks.
https://www.lidl.ie/

Gemma homed in on that ad that week because she is a racist.

Edit - Hah, should have gone to last page before replying as poster Gregor Samsa has got there before me.

alastair

NickNickleby wrote: »

Lastly, do you think she could ever persuade us all to become racists? I personally don't. Racists already exist with or without her. But thankfully in Ireland they would seem to be a very tiny minority. That doesn't mean I think 'freedom of speech' can be used by anyone like that as a cover.

You underestimate Germa, not only has she opened my eyes to the Great Replacement, she’s also exposed me to smart dust, the exclusively transgender recruitment policy of Lidl, the brave men of 1916 not dying for massage-on-a-barge, and communist-shaped shop architecture. She’s also confirmed my long-held suspicion that Irish people don’t care for spicy food.

She’s a national treasure.

padd b1975

alastair wrote: »

Because it’s their name? Going out on a limb there, but you know...

It's her name only.

alastair

padd b1975 wrote: »

It's her name only.

Nope - it’s the name of all the family, except her partner.

https://www.lidl.ie/the-big-save-the-ryans

pjohnson

padd b1975 wrote: »

It's her name only.

Do you think the son should be renamed then?

padd b1975

alastair wrote: »

Nope - it’s the name of all the family, except her partner.

https://www.lidl.ie/the-big-save-the-ryans

Right.

#smashthepatriarchy.

pjohnson

padd b1975 wrote: »

#smashthepatriarchy.

You seem very confused now. Wrong agenda.

alastair

padd b1975 wrote: »

Right.

#smashthepatriarchy.

The dad is called Ryan too.

NickNickleby

alastair wrote: »

You underestimate Germa, not only has she opened my eyes to the Great Replacement, she’s also exposed me to smart dust, the exclusively transgender recruitment policy of Lidl, the brave men of 1916 not dying for massage-on-a-barge, and communist-shaped shop architecture. She’s also confirmed my long-held suspicion that Irish people don’t care for spicy food.

She’s a national treasure.

Thanks alastair. you've saved me a lot of Twitter trawling :pac:.

on the highlighted bit, leave my mother-in-law out of this.

This woman (Gemma, I mean:D) seems worthy of further investigation. Although I'll probably just get annoyed.

padd b1975

pjohnson wrote: »

You seem very confused now. Wrong agenda.

Am I still a 'waycist'?

pjohnson

alastair wrote: »

The dad is called Ryan too.

Maybe they should all surrender the respectful "Ryan" name if they are going to darken the gene-pool so disgracefully?

alastair

NickNickleby wrote: »

Thanks alastair. you've saved me a lot of Twitter trawling :pac:.

on the highlighted bit, leave my mother-in-law out of this.

This woman (Gemma, I mean:D) seems worthy of further investigation. Although I'll probably just get annoyed.

You’ll probably be amused, there’s the odd gold nugget in the cookie cutter alt right mix - right up until you hear her speak. Her intonation is a horror. And kebabs are like kryptonite to her.

pjohnson

padd b1975 wrote: »

Am I still a 'waycist'?

I dunno. You might just be stupid re how surnames work in general. It mightnt actually be a race issue just an intelligence issue.

How you randomly hashtag patriarchy in this discussion seems to indicate its an intelligence issue.

padd b1975

pjohnson wrote: »

I dunno. You might just be stupid re how surnames work in general. It mightnt actually be a race issue just an intelligence issue.

*mightn't.

alastair

pjohnson wrote: »

Maybe they should all surrender the respectful "Ryan" name if they are going to darken the gene-pool so disgracefully?

The Ryan name is in safe hands.
https://www.newsweek.com/april-ryan-angela-rye-donald-trump-white-house-black-women-reporter-america-645702

Ulysses Gaze

You can't even call into question whether Germa is a racist.

She's peddling the "Great Replacment" myth which is just the codeword for the Coudenhove-Kalergi Plan conspiracy that has been extremly popular amongst White Nationalist groups for over 20/25 years.

And of course the central antagonists of this conspiracy are "The Evil Jewz"

It used to be The Rothschilds who were behind this. Now it is Soros. Apparently.

Surely no-one can defend her bull**** anymore.

davedanon

Critiqued wrote: »

I agree with Gemma in this instance. Why did they have to lie about the chaps name? Could they not find an Irish man with an Irish name. Or is this a diversity ad?

They are a real family, you absolute idiot.

Critiqued

davedanon wrote: »

They are a real family, you absolute idiot.

Keep yer knickers on there dotsy. I was only asking a question. Dont be so touchy.

PopePalpatine

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Surely no-one can defend her bull**** anymore.

I wish I had your faith in humanity.

Wombatman

Either the Gernon's are planning to stop the Great Replacement singlehandedly or the Lidl discount condoms are useless.

davedanon

Critiqued wrote: »

Keep yer knickers on there dotsy. I was only asking a question. Dont be so touchy.

Touchy? I thought it was just fair comment.

Critiqued

davedanon wrote: »

Touchy? I thought it was just fair comment.

Yeah well you thought wrong. Sitting behind your keyboard calling people idiots, you wouldn't do it in the real world.