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Gemma not taking enforced retirement too well

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    #4562
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users Posts: 28,969 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    the issue is who gets to decide what's hate speech. It has far more potential to shut down important discussion than it does to help stamp out racism.
    If you're talking about hate speech laws, then the Courts decide ultimately, based on laws passed by the Oireachtas.



    What kinds of important discussions do you think might be missed out?


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    #4563
    Daonnach
    Registered Users Posts: 5 ✭Daonnach


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    If you're talking about hate speech laws, then the Courts decide ultimately, based on laws passed by the Oireachtas.

    Genuine curosity:
    - Has anyone in the houses of Oireachtas hinted towards how hate speech would be defined?
    - Do we have examples from anywhere else in the world that has implemented laws like this recently?


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    #4564
    one world order
    Registered Users Posts: 592 ✭✭✭one world order


    Usually anything contrary to the mass produced mainstream media would be defined as hate speech.


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    #4565
    Daonnach
    Registered Users Posts: 5 ✭Daonnach


    I get the sentiment, and am aware of the dangers of policing thought/speech, but I wonder how such a thing would actually be worded in legislation?


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    #4566
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users Posts: 28,969 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    one world order wrote: »
    Usually anything contrary to the mass produced mainstream media would be defined as hate speech.
    Only if 'usually' means 'has never happened before anywhere and will never happen anywhere'.


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    #4567
    blueshade
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 428 ✭✭blueshade


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    which is exactly why we do need hate speech laws. racism is not acceptable, ever.

    It's exactly why we don't need hate speech laws. All they are is a licence for quangos that represent minorities to keep that nice big gravy train rolling. It is important that people are able to express their views. Anyone who has concerns should be allowed to express those concerns. In the past people were too afraid of being labelled racist, Islamophobic or bigoted for expressing those concerns so they kept their mouths shut.

    Now that more and more problems with multiculturalism both in Europe and at home, are being revealed there's a push for legislation that prevents anyone saying anything that a minority might find annoying. Angela Merkel has been forced to say that multiculturalism hasn't worked in Germany and that bringing so many migrants to Germany has been a disaster. Sweden is a basket case and is having to force integration on migrants.

    Britain was lost long ago which is why even many ethnic minorities voted pro Brexit. France is a sink hole. Calais saw businesses go bust and people having their homes burgled as well as people being attacked going about their business. Migration/asylum has been handled backwards, anyone migrating to or seeking asylum in a country should be forced to adapt to and abide by the laws and customs of the host nation, instead of the natives having to make more and more concessions to people who have polar opposite cultural and religious views to their own.


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    #4568
    8-10
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    blueshade wrote: »
    She didn't even consider moving to Brazil.

    How do you know this? Can you link?


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    #4569
    circadian
    Registered Users Posts: 6,956 ✭✭✭circadian


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    such an edge lord.

    you'd have pavee point and the immigrant council out shouting and screaming to shut down everything negative, direct provision centres popping up everywhere with all critacism banned.

    Hyperbole.


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    #4570
    whippet
    Registered Users Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭whippet


    I’d say if Gemma sat down with a mug of tea to watch Room to Improve last night she would have spat it all over her living room - clear RTE pushing an agenda to annoy her


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    #4571
    circadian
    Registered Users Posts: 6,956 ✭✭✭circadian


    What agenda is that then?


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    #4572
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 41,065 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    circadian wrote: »
    What agenda is that then?

    Lol. Gay parents with a non white child. You know Gemma... her conspiracy theories would go overdrive thinking this is a Soros Jewish Islamic ISIS Paedophilic Globalist plot.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #4573
    Big Vern
    Registered Users Posts: 602 ✭✭✭Big Vern


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Lol. Gay parents with a non white child. You know Gemma... her conspiracy theories would go overdrive thinking this is a Soros Jewish Islamic ISIS Paedophilic Globalist plot.

    You forgot Cultural Marxist!!


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    #4574
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    blueshade wrote: »
    It's exactly why we don't need hate speech laws. All they are is a licence for quangos that represent minorities to keep that nice big gravy train rolling. It is important that people are able to express their views. Anyone who has concerns should be allowed to express those concerns. In the past people were too afraid of being labelled racist, Islamophobic or bigoted for expressing those concerns so they kept their mouths shut.

    Now that more and more problems with multiculturalism both in Europe and at home, are being revealed there's a push for legislation that prevents anyone saying anything that a minority might find annoying. Angela Merkel has been forced to say that multiculturalism hasn't worked in Germany and that bringing so many migrants to Germany has been a disaster. Sweden is a basket case and is having to force integration on migrants.

    Britain was lost long ago which is why even many ethnic minorities voted pro Brexit. France is a sink hole. Calais saw businesses go bust and people having their homes burgled as well as people being attacked going about their business. Migration/asylum has been handled backwards, anyone migrating to or seeking asylum in a country should be forced to adapt to and abide by the laws and customs of the host nation, instead of the natives having to make more and more concessions to people who have polar opposite cultural and religious views to their own.

    Yeah; nonsense.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-election/merkel-has-no-regrets-over-refugee-policy-despite-political-cost-idUSKCN1B70F2


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    #4575
    TaurenDruid
    Registered Users Posts: 4,051 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    alastair wrote: »
    Yeah; nonsense.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-election/merkel-has-no-regrets-over-refugee-policy-despite-political-cost-idUSKCN1B70F2

    Ah, don't go refuting the Gemmaroid with things like facts, now - that's unfair! :D


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    #4576
    blueshade
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 428 ✭✭blueshade


    alastair wrote: »
    Yeah; nonsense.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-election/merkel-has-no-regrets-over-refugee-policy-despite-political-cost-idUSKCN1B70F2


    Here's an article from 2010 where she is quoted as saying Germany's attempts to integrate the 4 million Muslim migrants has ''utterly failed''. Hey, it's not like they did anything like plough down people at Christmas markets....oh wait.....


    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/oct/17/angela-merkel-german-multiculturalism-failed


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    #4577
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,427 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    blueshade wrote: »
    Here's an article from 2010 where she is quoted as saying Germany's attempts to integrate the 4 million Muslim migrants has ''utterly failed''. Hey, it's not like they did anything like plough down people at Christmas markets....oh wait.....


    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/oct/17/angela-merkel-german-multiculturalism-failed

    probably best if you read the article mentioned before responding. As the reuters article is about a decision in 2015 i'm not sure how her thoughts in 2010 are relevant.
    German Chancellor Angela Merkel said she has no regrets about her 2015 decision to open the country’s borders to hundreds of thousands of refugees and added she will not be deterred from campaigning by angry hecklers.


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    #4578
    blueshade
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 428 ✭✭blueshade


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    probably best if you read the article mentioned before responding. As the reuters article is about a decision in 2015 i'm not sure how her thoughts in 2010 are relevant.

    I think you'll find that you are wrong and this social experiment that Merkel created and then inflicted on the rest of Europe has been an utter disaster. France is a toilet, Germany is a disaster, Sweden has all but been destroyed. Importing huge numbers of people who worship a prophet who was a warmongering, slave trading pedophile is an appalling stupid move and makes no sense.

    We've reached a point in the west were we have better gender equality than ever before and where things are better than ever for LGBTQ people and then someone decides to import millions of people who despise LGBTQ people, who see women as second class citizens and in some cases men who have brought their child brides with them.


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    #4579
    Ha Long Bay
    Registered Users Posts: 15,172 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    Does she ever stop trying to sue people?

    https://twitter.com/gemmaod1/status/1183794145825054727?s=20


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    #4580
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    john4321 wrote: »
    Does she ever stop trying to sue people?

    https://twitter.com/gemmaod1/status/1183794145825054727?s=20

    So cancelling bookings made under false pretense is now a thing that venues can be sued for, yeah OK.

    As for the Irish patriot line, having relatives who fought in the war of independence and in Spain, she wouldn't be someone who they would have defined as the same as them, including her best buds Justin and Grand.


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    #4581
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    john4321 wrote: »
    Does she ever stop trying to sue people?

    https://twitter.com/gemmaod1/status/1183794145825054727?s=20

    what meeting was supposed to be held ?


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    #4582
    Ha Long Bay
    Registered Users Posts: 15,172 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    what meeting was supposed to be held ?

    No idea im guessing something to do with 5G or chemtrails killing everyone.


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    #4583
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    john4321 wrote: »
    No idea im guessing something to do with 5G or chemtrails killing everyone.

    or mixed race supermarket couples, she's like a box of chocolates where most of them are bounties.


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    #4584
    gandalf
    Registered Users Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    john4321 wrote: »
    Does she ever stop trying to sue people?

    https://twitter.com/gemmaod1/status/1183794145825054727?s=20

    Have any if the threatened cases actually progressed at all? From what I can see they are all pending. I think she realises that she has a snowballs chance in hell of winning any of them.


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    #4585
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users Posts: 28,969 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    blueshade wrote: »
    It's exactly why we don't need hate speech laws. All they are is a licence for quangos that represent minorities to keep that nice big gravy train rolling.
    There is no connection between hate speech laws and quangos. You can have hate speech laws without quangos. Laws are enforced by the Courts, not by quangos.


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    #4586
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users Posts: 28,969 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    john4321 wrote: »
    Does she ever stop trying to sue people?

    https://twitter.com/gemmaod1/status/1183794145825054727?s=20


    She's putting your name in her book now.


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    #4587
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 41,065 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    what meeting was supposed to be held ?

    Some Danish woman was supposed to speak. https://amp.ibtimes.co.uk/who-iben-thranholm-denmarks-pro-russia-journalist-who-thinks-only-christianity-can-save-europe-1613043

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #4588
    Ha Long Bay
    Registered Users Posts: 15,172 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Some Danish woman was supposed to speak. https://amp.ibtimes.co.uk/who-iben-thranholm-denmarks-pro-russia-journalist-who-thinks-only-christianity-can-save-europe-1613043


    She sounds like Gemma's Danish sister from that article.


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    #4589
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 41,065 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    john4321 wrote: »
    She sounds like Gemma's Danish sister from that article.

    Sort of a Hatie Kopkins Gemmaroid alright

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #4590
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,427 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Walkingstik wrote: »
    Islam is right about soft heads
    The far right nazzzees should team up with isis and we'll see whose a bigot then
    Don't come crying to us then you softhead

    can you try that again in english?


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    #4591
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    can you try that again in english?

    They can try again after they rereg for the umpteenth time.


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