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Gemma not taking enforced retirement too well

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    #6182
    kowloon
    Registered Users Posts: 13,458 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Niner leprauchan wrote: »
    Oh ffs! Really? Wikipedia?

    Fascism is not left or right. It's notoriously hard to define and more often than not refers to methods used to achieve their political goals. Left wing groups can absolutely be fascist. Hitler claimed to be and did actually have socialist ideals.

    Far be it for me to argue with the anonymous author in Wikipedia but maybe try some actual scholars on the subject?

    If you were defining the methods you would more likely call them authoritarianism and totalitarianism. Stalin was both of these but isn't defined as fascist.
    An example of the term being misused by people would be the idea that the Nazis were left-wing socialists which is being pushed by the likes of Dinesh D'Souza/PragerU, but they're not taken seriously by actual academics in universities that actually exist.
    The people protesting the lockdown aren't fascist either, they're looking for individual rights despite them being dangerous to the common good. Not fascists, just plain garden variety fcuking morons.
    davedanon wrote: »
    Hey, it's National Socialism. Clue's in the name, dude...
    There's a lot of that going around.


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    #6183
    Shefwedfan
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    Carfacemandog wrote: »
    More importantly, behind her. Who dragged ing someone with downs syndrome?

    Thats not an insult either, it genuinely seems like some a*sehole decided to bring someone with downs syndrome down this road of derangement.


    Down syndrome people make their own decisions, fro all you know they could be the ring leader


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    #6184
    storker
    Registered Users Posts: 5,669 ✭✭✭storker


    davedanon wrote: »
    Hey, it's National Socialism. Clue's in the name, dude...

    You must think North Korea is democratic, then.


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    #6185
    kowloon
    Registered Users Posts: 13,458 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    storker wrote: »
    You must think North Korea is democratic, then.

    I assume they were taking the piss out of people who say that.


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    #6186
    Annasopra
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    Niner leprauchan wrote: »
    Great. None of which suggests my original comment or follow ups were incorrect. Can you point out the parts that say fascists can be right wing only?

    Oh are we going down that rabbit hole. Let me guess this is where you start going going on about Hitler being a socialist...

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #6187
    Annasopra
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    kowloon wrote: »
    The people protesting the lockdown aren't fascist either, they're looking for individual rights despite them being dangerous to the common good. Not fascists, just plain garden variety fcuking morons.

    There's a mixture in there for sure but at this stage you really can't deny that Gemma O'Doherty, Dolores Webster, John Waters, Rowan Croft all have fascist far right links.

    https://medium.com/@farrightobservatory/covid-19-conspiracy-and-irelands-far-right-3501e07b6756

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #6188
    The Nal
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    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    There's a mixture in there for sure but at this stage you really can't deny that Gemma O'Doherty, Dolores Webster, John Waters, Rowan Croft all have fascist far right links.

    https://medium.com/@farrightobservatory/covid-19-conspiracy-and-irelands-far-right-3501e07b6756

    Thats excellent. Poor Jim Corr. Someone should use him as a reference point in a study for social media radicalisation. Hes clearly an easily influenced twitter addict whos mind has been poisoned.

    Its mad how people who get heavily into theories prioritise social media and social media buddies over everything else and even over their own families in some cases. Family and friends disowned and blocked. Over an app. Very sad. And its not like this is news. There are 10 year old studies on the dangers of social media to certain types of people.


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    #6189
    kowloon
    Registered Users Posts: 13,458 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    The Nal wrote: »
    Thats excellent. Poor Jim Corr. Someone should use him as a reference point in a study for social media radicalisation. Hes clearly an easily influenced twitter addict whos mind has been poisoned. .

    I've always thought Jim Corr just wants some of the attention his sisters got. :D


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    #6190
    The Nal
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    kowloon wrote: »
    I've always thought Jim Corr just wants some of the attention his sisters got. :D

    No hes started off on 9/11. Came to the conclusion it was a conspiracy instantly because someone sent him a video. Everything has come from that. A very gullible man.


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    #6191
    lawrencesummers
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    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Down syndrome people make their own decisions, fro all you know they could be the ring leader

    That’s a spectacularly ignorant Thing to say.


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    #6192
    Annasopra
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    lawrencesummers wrote: »
    That’s a spectacularly ignorant Thing to say.

    Seriously? Are you suggesting People with down sydndrome are all helpless people with no mind of their own and incapable of independent thought and action?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #6193
    Be right back
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    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Seriously? Are you suggesting People with down sydndrome are all helpless people with no mind of their own and incapable of independent thought and action?

    I think he was the only individual who seemed unhappy to be there!!


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    #6194
    lawrencesummers
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    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Seriously? Are you suggesting People with down sydndrome are all helpless people with no mind of their own and incapable of independent thought and action?

    Seriously? Are you suggesting people with Down Syndrome are all capable of independence.


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    #6195
    Annasopra
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    lawrencesummers wrote: »
    Seriously? Are you suggesting people with Down Syndrome are all capable of independence.

    :rolleyes:

    Of course not but quite a lot are so it's really stupid to claim otherwise

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #6196
    lawrencesummers
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    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    :rolleyes:

    Of course not but quite a lot are so it's really stupid to claim otherwise

    I’m well aware of it. More aware of it that most, and That’s why I didn’t say it. The Original post was the stupid and completely ignorant claim I picked up on and then You jumped to the wrong conclusion about it.


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    #6197
    pinkyeye
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    Carfacemandog wrote: »
    More importantly, behind her. Who dragged ing someone with downs syndrome?

    Thats not an insult either, it genuinely seems like some a*sehole decided to bring someone with downs syndrome down this road of derangement.

    And putting their lives in danger. A person with downs syndrome would have an compromised immune system in the first place.

    Absolute gob****es. :rolleyes::rolleyes:


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    #6198
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    There's a mixture in there for sure but at this stage you really can't deny that Gemma O'Doherty, Dolores Webster, John Waters, Rowan Croft all have fascist far right links.

    https://medium.com/@farrightobservatory/covid-19-conspiracy-and-irelands-far-right-3501e07b6756


    Rowan croft does, the rest are just nutters, waters with a Catholic Church link but thats it. Just because a far right person believes in a cause it does not make it far right. Gemma is her own bag of mental but she's just a conspiracy loon without political affiliation or adherence to a spectrum of politics, calling her or most of her band of attention seekers far right diminishes the much more sinister playbook behind them.


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    #6199
    Be right back
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    pinkyeye wrote: »
    And putting their lives in danger. A person with downs syndrome would have an compromised immune system in the first place.

    Absolute gob****es. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

    Good point. He could possibly have heart issues.


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    #6200
    Shefwedfan
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    Maybe some of you need to read this....

    https://www.dsmig.org.uk/covid-19-and-down-syndrome/


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    #6201
    lawrencesummers
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    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Maybe some of you need to read this....

    https://www.dsmig.org.uk/covid-19-and-down-syndrome/

    Why?
    It strikes me from your poorly formed and uneducated opinion of DS that you need to educate yourself on it. Not others.


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    #6202
    Annasopra
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    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    Rowan croft does, the rest are just nutters, waters with a Catholic Church link but thats it. Just because a far right person believes in a cause it does not make it far right. Gemma is her own bag of mental but she's just a conspiracy loon without political affiliation or adherence to a spectrum of politics, calling her or most of her band of attention seekers far right diminishes the much more sinister playbook behind them.

    Gemma has links to Rowan Croft and Justin Barrett. There is no but... Gemma has many links to far right fascists and promotes many far right fascist causes.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #6203
    Ten of Swords
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    Mod

    Can we move on from the DS conversation please, it is off topic

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    Category Moderator: Social & Fun



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    #6204
    TheBMG
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    Was in communication recently with somebody who was involved in one of Gemmas pet projects against Tusla (they now regret ever having been involved).

    This person is convinced there is a genuine mental illness and the phrase ‘suicide by cop’ comes to mind. The laughing at her antics and negative reaction has no effect on her. Ultimately it’s a crusade against the cops and the media and everything else is secondary.


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    #6205
    AngryHippie
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    everyone who showed up with a tricolor should have been charged with Oxygen theft on their way out of the court.


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    #6206
    Birneybau
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    Jesus

    https://twitter.com/n_sweeny/status/1255075292705632256


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    #6207
    Penfailed
    Registered Users Posts: 7,587 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Birneybau wrote: »
    Jesus

    https://twitter.com/n_sweeny/status/1255075292705632256

    What a looper!

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Ride, PJ Harvey, Pixies, Public Service Broadcasting, Therapy?, IDLES(x2)



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    #6208
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    God love em, thick as sh1t
    https://twitter.com/SMurphyTV/status/1255106207662178305?s=20


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    #6209
    Odhinn
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    Again, it seems unfair & inconsistent that a group of striking workers were moved on, despite their keeping 2 metres apart, yet this bunch are allowed crowd around.


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    #6210
    Harry Palmr
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    It's very odd, unless it's a state conspiracy to allow mass infection among the doolally


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    #6211
    shanec1928
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    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    It's very odd, unless it's a state conspiracy to allow mass infection among the doolally

    One could only hope.. it would do society a massive favour.


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