Gemma not taking enforced retirement too well

Snickers Man

davedanon wrote: »

I do hope that no-one gets sick as a result of it, but at least it was for an important reason, and not just to sit in the park or on the beach eating ice cream and getting a tan.

Didn't that odious little prick Dominic Cummings make a similar point about taking his kids to see their grandparents? He was rightly ripped out of it by most sensible people because we can ALL think up good reasons why we should ignore the lockdown restrictions because of our own important issues. But we stick with them anyway because of the bigger issue.

You're no better than he.

Consider yourself insulted :P

davedanon

growleaves wrote: »

It is very, very important that we lock down and practice social distancing - except when it isn't.

As also evidenced by events in London, Amsterdam & elsewhere, the sheer weight of people's outrage overwhelmed the instinct to obey the rules. I didn't say it was all fine and dandy. I know there were risks taken by people. But this has become a worldwide phenomenon, and people obviously felt it was too important not to mark these occasions with their presence. Next Saturday's event has been cancelled, too.

Funny how you're more exercised about me, and that march, than President Caligula turning the USA into Gilead, though.

davedanon

Snickers Man wrote: »

Didn't that odious little prick Dominic Cummings make a similar point about taking his kids to see their grandparents? He was rightly ripped out of it by most sensible people because we can ALL think up good reasons why we should ignore the lockdown restrictions because of our own important issues. But we stick with them anyway because of the bigger issue.

You're no better than he.

Consider yourself insulted :P

Jesus. My poor ego. I don't think anyone on that march knowingly had covid, though. Unlike Cummings' wife.

And I'm pretty sure no-one was directly involved in crafting a country's official pandemic guidelines. Unless Tony Holohan was there.

growleaves

Politics > public health

Thanks for demonstrating the emptiness of the restrictions, which were instantly forgotten by vain protestors as if they never existed.

Hypocrites, in this country and internationally, did more to turn people against the lockdown than I could ever hope to.

davedanon

growleaves wrote: »

Politics > public health

Thanks for demonstrating the emptiness of the restrictions, which were instantly forgotten by vain protestors as if they never existed.

Hypocrites, in this country and internationally, did more to turn people against the lockdown than I could ever hope to.

Not 'politics'. Humanity. Injustice. Outrage. A person got murdered, in case you've forgotten.

But of course you have.

And 'vain' tells me all I need to know about you.

Overheal

growleaves wrote: »

Politics > public health

Thanks for demonstrating the emptiness of the restrictions, which were instantly forgotten by vain protestors as if they never existed.

Hypocrites, in this country and internationally, did more to turn people against the lockdown than I could ever hope to.

Racism is a far more pressing issue, and people clearly feel more strongly about it than their concerns about getting sick.

As a health official today said, regarding if a second wave happens: “Blame racism.”

Carfacemandog

dan1895 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/No_MoreBullcrap/status/1267885824072433664?s=19

They were met with a counter protest yesterday.

I agree with the protest in Dublin the other day leading to legal action for the Gards, but why is it that this crowd don't have similar for every single one they have had?

I think they got one, but if I recall that was it.

growleaves

davedanon wrote: »

Not 'politics'. Humanity. Injustice. Outrage. A person got murdered, in case you've forgotten.

But of course you have.

And 'vain' tells me all I need to know about you.

Humanity, Injustice, Outrage > Public health

Better now?

growleaves

Hm some reports say the upcoming protests are going ahead.

Dave will you be joining the anti-racist petri-dish in Ballsbridge to take a potentially lethal yet morally justified stand against the secret controller of the Minnesota Police Department, Donald Trump?

Annasopra

davedanon wrote: »

As also evidenced by events in London, Amsterdam & elsewhere, the sheer weight of people's outrage overwhelmed the instinct to obey the rules. I didn't say it was all fine and dandy. I know there were risks taken by people. But this has become a worldwide phenomenon, and people obviously felt it was too important not to mark these occasions with their presence. Next Saturday's event has been cancelled, too.

Funny how you're more exercised about me, and that march, than President Caligula turning the USA into Gilead, though.

Saturdays isnt. Mondays is.

dan1895

Waters and O'Doherthy are going to have to pay costs to the state. Wonderful news.

theballz

dan1895 wrote: »

Waters and O'Doherthy are going to have to pay costs to the state. Wonderful news.

Patiently waiting on her nonsensical tweet.

Carfacemandog

Now watch them be able to quietly and promptly pay it without any problem whatsoever, while very few question where that money came from.

micosoft

Carfacemandog wrote: »

Now watch them be able to quietly and promptly pay it without any problem whatsoever, while very few question where that money came from.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/high-court/o-doherty-and-waters-ordered-to-pay-legal-costs-of-case-against-state-over-covid-19-laws-1.4270600

Agree. Many of these "patriots" (especially "pro-lifers") seem happy to take money from foreign agents....

Edgware

Could someone start a gofundme to help out? I'm sure I have some Green Shield stamps I could contribute

Penn

dan1895 wrote: »

Waters and O'Doherthy are going to have to pay costs to the state. Wonderful news.

Considering Waters decided to be jailed for an afternoon to avoid paying a €40 parking fine he even admitted he was wrong on, I can't imagine the State are going to get much of the money unless Waters/Gemma fans fundraise the costs between themselves.

francois

This is hilarious, she's going to have to stump up at least 60k (more if she appeals).
Currently she's having a rant against the judge, claiming she won't pay.

j8wk2feszrnpao

francois wrote: »

This is hilarious, she's going to have to stump up at least 60k (more if she appeals).
Currently she's having a rant against the judge, claiming she won't pay.

Maybe they'll both take jail time instead. Half their fan base are there anyway.

Edgware

UpBack1234 wrote: »

Obviously they won't pay or will have it paid for them by the Iona Institute or some other bunch of wingnuts - but still good to see costs awarded against them. A nice kick in the teeth for this pair of malignant narcissists.

It will be a nice boost to Sebastians annual income in these difficult times. We didnt put him through law school to end up on a Covid 19 payment

tigger123

Its hysterical really. Hope she appeals and runs up even more of a bill.

tigger123

Just reading the IT article, basically the Judge said that if they had put any kind of a legal case at all, he would have considered not awarding costs against them.

Essentially, they were wasting everyone's time, and should pay accordingly.

davedanon

This has been a rare ray of light in these awful times. I reckon 3 or 4 months in chokey would do the two of them a power of good.

ZeroThreat

Probably not a good idea calling the judge corrupt on twitter...:rolleyes:

Another trumpesque moron whose rantings are inflicted on the public in age of social media.

ohnonotgmail

Edgware wrote: »

It will be a nice boost to Sebastians annual income in these difficult times. We didnt put him through law school to end up on a Covid 19 payment

you do realise that it is taxpayers money that will be spent if/when gemma and john dont pay up? the government will pay their own costs and seek to recoup. they will be doing well to get it.

brightspark

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

you do realise that it is taxpayers money that will be spent if/when gemma and john dont pay up? the government will pay their own costs and seek to recoup. they will be doing well to get it.

I think both Gemma and John own property, send in the bailiffs.

Odhinn

tigger123 wrote: »

Just reading the IT article, basically the Judge said that if they had put any kind of a legal case at all, he would have considered not awarding costs against them.

Essentially, they were wasting everyone's time, and should pay accordingly.

The sheer mindless arrogance of it though - they'd no idea how to put a case together, or the procedures and don't seem to have sought out any legal expertise at all.

ohnonotgmail

brightspark wrote: »

I think both Gemma and John own property, send in the bailiffs.

againt a family home?

brightspark

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

againt a family home?

I'd be happy enough if they took their cars, phones, computers etc., and emptied their bank accounts.

Acosta

tigger123 wrote: »

Just reading the IT article, basically the Judge said that if they had put any kind of a legal case at all, he would have considered not awarding costs against them.

Essentially, they were wasting everyone's time, and should pay accordingly.

Both appear to still have same small group of 15 or 20 clowns following them around now as they did before this lame and very costly publicity stunt. Maybe Flatley or Jimbo will give them a dig out.

Kermit.de.frog

Right decision on the costs imo irrespective of the people involved. A complete waste of time and resources.