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Gemma not taking enforced retirement too well

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    Kimsang wrote: »
    They are de-monetizing just about everyone who engages in anything political/controversial anymore. Go check for yourself. All 'sides' are now being hit. I hope this is what the left want, this is what they asked for.

    She frequently breaks the rules on both twitter and YouTube. So you think the platforms are not entitled to enforce their rules? It's not because she's political. Same applies to all those other people who tend to get banned. They engage in hate speech and use conspiracies as propaganda.
    Blueshoe wrote: »
    You must be delighted. Plenty of right wing personalities with both large and small followings are being demonized or banned from social media. And Tommy Robinson heading for prison.

    You are winning and will eventually reach your goal of having no right wing opinions being broadcast on social media. A great day for lefties

    Pretty great to see rules being enforced. Being right wing doesn't give carte blanche to do whatever you want.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    batgoat wrote: »
    She frequently breaks the rules on both twitter and YouTube. So you think the platforms are not entitled to enforce their rules? It's not because she's political. Same applies to all those other people who tend to get banned. They engage in hate speech and use conspiracies as propaganda.



    Pretty great to see rules being enforced. Being right wing doesn't give carte blanche to do whatever you want.

    It's pretty clear which way things are going.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭Kimsang


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    You are winning and will eventually reach your goal of having no right wing opinions being broadcast on social media. A great day for lefties

    They don't realize that when that day comes; they are usually the first lined up against a wall and shot.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    It's pretty clear which way things are going.

    Nope, literally all of the people I can think of that were banned for "right wing" views tended to say some desperate things. They engaged in abuse and targeted individuals much of the time. It wasn't simply expressing a view.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    batgoat wrote: »
    She frequently breaks the rules on both twitter and YouTube. So you think the platforms are not entitled to enforce their rules? It's not because she's political. Same applies to all those other people who tend to get banned. They engage in hate speech and use conspiracies as propaganda.

    What rules has she broken and don't say something subjective like hate speech
    Pretty great to see rules being enforced. Being right wing doesn't give carte blanche to do whatever you want.

    And being left wing doesn't give you card blanche to throw harmful substances at people. Most lefties are of the belief that anyone with right wing with anti immigration views is automatically guilty of incitement to hatred.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    batgoat wrote: »
    Nope, literally all of the people I can think of that were banned for "right wing" views tended to say some desperate things. They engaged in abuse and targeted individuals much of the time. It wasn't simply expressing a view.

    Yes. And they are all being removed one by one.
    How right wing can views be now before they are considered far right? Social media leftists will decide and the social media companies will ban as requested.

    That is the path being chosen so yes you have won. I don't mind admitting it. I can see the writing on the wall


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    What rules has she broken and don't say something subjective like hate speech



    And being left wing doesn't give you card blanche to throw harmful substances at people. Most lefties are of the belief that anyone with right wing with anti immigration views is automatically guilty of incitement to hatred.

    I don't favour throwing harmful liquids at people...

    Rules she's broken, online harassment would be one that automatically comes to mind. She's regularly targeted people critical of her. Eg Fiona O Leary. That's against the rules and resulted in plenty of real life harassment in addition to online. Pretty sure there's plenty of others who have been subject to it as well. And hate speech is against YouTube rules so no you don't get to discount it... So there's two rules she regularly flouts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 536 ✭✭✭Harvey Weinstein


    batgoat wrote: »
    She frequently breaks the rules on both twitter and YouTube. So you think the platforms are not entitled to enforce their rules? It's not because she's political. Same applies to all those other people who tend to get banned. They engage in hate speech and use conspiracies as propaganda.



    Pretty great to see rules being enforced. Being right wing doesn't give carte blanche to do whatever you want.

    Being left wing though does give you carte blanche to do whatever you want...like depicting lgbt Children in a semi pornographic manner a la Desmond

    Just how far are you willing to go?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    batgoat wrote: »
    I don't favour throwing harmful liquids at people...

    Rules she's broken, online harassment would be one that automatically comes to mind. She's regularly targeted people critical of her. Eg Fiona O Leary. That's against the rules and resulted in plenty of real life harassment in addition to online. Pretty sure there's plenty of others who have been subject to it as well. And hate speech is against YouTube rules so no you don't get to discount it... So there's two rules she regularly flouts.

    There are people on twitter who's feed is entirely made up of insults and mocking croft and o doherty. That's all they do. There is even a parody account set up just to insult o doherty


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 136 ✭✭FartyBlartFast


    Does the colour of the characters skin in a retelling, change the story somehow?

    Hahahahahahaha.... Really?

    Really?

    Hahahahahahahahahaha.

    Brilliant.

    The left really need to start being consistent with their outrage of cultural appropriation.
    Why, in your own opinion and words, should people be outraged by this?

    If they make a big deal of it ala Ghostbusters, the little mermaid will be a flop and laughing stock as that was. If they don't, it can work out very well ala... well ala the Little Mermaid from 1989. I don't recall as a big a stink over that, but then again we didn't have quite so much snowflakey outrage culture either.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    batgoat wrote: »
    Rules she's broken, online harassment would be one that automatically comes to mind. She's regularly targeted people critical of her. Eg Fiona O Leary. That's against the rules and resulted in plenty of real life harassment in addition to online. Pretty sure there's plenty of others who have been subject to it as well. And hate speech is against YouTube rules so no you don't get to discount it... So there's two rules she regularly flouts.

    I don't remember her harassing Fiona O'Leary perhaps her supporters were harrassing her but that's nothing to do with her. The only interaction I've seen those too having was when she was defending against allegation which O'Leary was making.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 136 ✭✭FartyBlartFast


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Gemma's whinging again because youtube have suspended her channel

    You must be delighted. Plenty of right wing personalities with both large and small followings are being demonized or banned from social media. And Tommy Robinson heading for prison.

    You are winning and will eventually reach your goal of having no right wing opinions being broadcast on social media. A great day for lefties
    I am delighted Tommy Robinson is going to prison.

    That is what should happen to people who repeatedly break the law. Why would you want someone to repeatedly get away with breaking the law?


  • Registered Users Posts: 41,062 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    I don't remember her harassing Fiona O'Leary perhaps her supporters were harrassing her but that's nothing to do with her. The only interaction I've seen those too having was when she was defending against allegation which O'Leary was making.

    She absolutely 110% did harass Fiona O'Leary. She said Fiona must be "dealt with". She published videos calling her all sorts of names. The videos had to be taken down because they were so bad. It was all very threatening and bullying.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,070 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    She absolutely 110% did harass Fiona O'Leary. She said Fiona must be "dealt with". She published videos calling her all sorts of names. The videos had to be taken down because they were so bad.

    https://twitter.com/gemmaod1/status/1108484160904183808


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    I am delighted Tommy Robinson is going to prison.

    That is what should happen to people who repeatedly break the law. Why would you want someone to repeatedly get away with breaking the law?

    He already been in jail for the same offence and was let out. Even if he did break the law I've never heard of someone being put back in jail for the same offence after they've been released unless they've breached a release condition of some sort which Tommy has not done at least to the best the public's knowledge.


  • Registered Users Posts: 41,062 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    john4321 wrote: »

    Exactly. It was so bad youtube had to remove it for breaking their terms and conditions.

    Its actually quite hilarious that her supporters now try to deny Gemmas nasty bullying and threatening behaviour against Fiona.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    Being left wing though does give you carte blanche to do whatever you want...like depicting lgbt Children in a semi pornographic manner a la Desmond

    Just how far are you willing to go?

    Erm, you guys really seem to make weird conclusions about what people think. I will happily say that I don't support the depiction of children in any such way.
    She absolutely 110% did harass Fiona O'Leary. She said Fiona must be "dealt with". She published videos calling her all sorts of names. The videos had to be taken down because they were so bad. It was all very threatening and bullying.

    Her videos also frequently reference her. She has been subject to lots of real life harassment as a direct result as well. Stephen and Co are either incredibly ignorant or they're just fine with it tbh. Inclined to say latter.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    I am delighted Tommy Robinson is going to prison.

    That is what should happen to people who repeatedly break the law. Why would you want someone to repeatedly get away with breaking the law?

    Definitely not. He is going to prison not the Us. I wouldn't fancy being in his shoes


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,070 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    He already been in jail for the same offence and was let out. Even if he did break the law I've never heard of someone being put back in jail for the same offence after they've been released unless they've breached a release condition of some sort which Tommy has not done at least to the best the public's knowledge.

    Can you not use his real name? Stephen Yaxley-Lennon


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    john4321 wrote: »

    Is she living in a six bed courtesy of the taxpayer?

    Is it only harassment if o Doherty does it? There are some people on twitter who do nothing but insult and belittle o Doherty. There is even a parody page set up with the sole aim of insulting her


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  • Registered Users Posts: 41,062 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    You must be delighted. Plenty of right wing personalities with both large and small followings are being demonized or banned from social media. And Tommy Robinson heading for prison.

    You are winning and will eventually reach your goal of having no right wing opinions being broadcast on social media. A great day for lefties

    Thats just completely oversimplifying a whole rake of issues. Everyone who is left wing does not all right wing opinion shut down.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,070 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Is she living in a six bed courtesy of the taxpayer?

    I dont know or care if she is or not I dont know anything about her. Just took 5 seconds to see if what Stephen15 said was true or now.

    "I don't remember her harassing Fiona O'Leary perhaps her supporters were harrassing her but that's nothing to do with her."


  • Registered Users Posts: 41,062 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Is she living in a six bed courtesy of the taxpayer?

    Why? Are you going to bully and harass her too?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Is she living in a six bed courtesy of the taxpayer?

    Is she engaging in targeted harassment of an individual? She meets the criteria for such a house if she is btw. So trying to arrange a troll campaign to attempt to evict a woman and her family tends to further validate how she does break the terms of service...


  • Registered Users Posts: 41,062 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    john4321 wrote: »
    I dont know or care if she is or not I dont know anything about her. Just took 5 seconds to see if what Stephen15 said was true or now.

    "I don't remember her harassing Fiona O'Leary perhaps her supporters were harrassing her but that's nothing to do with her."

    Exactly. Gemma has been bullying and harassing Fiona O'Leary and now of course Gemmas supporters are trying to deny it all. And a lot of more of them are threatening her.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭Kimsang


    That is what should happen to people who repeatedly break the law. Why would you want someone to repeatedly get away with breaking the law?

    I'm sure you were happy with Galileo Galilei's imprisonment then also.

    Here is a Canadian litigator explaining the contempt orders issued against Robinson. He argues UK judges have a lot of power of discretion when it comes to contempt orders. Do you think its right someone can be found guilty and sentenced for 13months in a matter of 5 hours? Also do you think its right that the judge issues a gag order on this verdict?



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Why? Are you going to bully and harass her too?

    I am going to take it to be true then. You haven't said otherwise.

    I want a 6 bed courtesy of the taxpayer


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Thats just completely oversimplifying a whole rake of issues. Everyone who is left wing does not all right wing opinion shut down.

    There is nothing more you would love. You will have your wish by the looks of it too. The writing is on the wall.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    Kimsang wrote: »
    I'm sure you were happy with Galileo Galilei's imprisonment then also.

    Here is a Canadian litigator explaining the contempt orders issued against Robinson. He argues UK judges have a lot of power of discretion when it comes to contempt orders. Do you think its right someone can be found guilty and sentenced for 13months in a matter of 5 hours? Also do you think its right that the judge issues a gag order on this verdict?


    By reporting on the trial he risked a successful conviction.... So hardly Gallileo... He did so for his own profile and now it's royally backfired on him.
    Blueshoe wrote: »
    There is nothing more you would love. You will have your wish by the looks of it too. The writing is on the wall.

    You realise you've not addressed anything with your responses? We've already illustrated how the various victims of ban hammers were legitimately banned/suspended... Not a great sign when you can't counter any of the points made.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    She absolutely 110% did harass Fiona O'Leary. She said Fiona must be "dealt with". She published videos calling her all sorts of names. The videos had to be taken down because they were so bad. It was all very threatening and bullying.

    Whatever about online abuse which is less serious than physical abuse. So far only a left wing supporter of Fiona O'Leary in Leah Doherty has engaged in the physical abuse of Rowan Croft. Fairly sure Fiona has said similar about Gemma.

    Leah has also accused Gemma of being involved in terrorism.

    https://twitter.com/LeahNiD/status/1143256828496752641?s=19


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