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Gemma not taking enforced retirement too well

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  • Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    But the far right is an actual threat, that's my point. Realistically, what is the threat we face from the "far left", in this country?

    no they're not. The far right in this country haven't killed anybody. I don't know what the firebombing the car is about, was that not the shinners??

    the only thing the far right have done here is make youtube videos and protested outside google.


  • Registered Users Posts: 465 ✭✭southstar


    Dee in the last few days, made that point that:- on Friday, 30th Oct. - it will be made 'mandatory'? that now there will be Fines for all /every breach of the new 'legislated 'rules', including Vaccination. People will be put in new 'Mental Hostels' for any non-compliance and cannot be released by their family, or doctor; unless - they comply.

    People like Dee don't arrive at the juncture Dee is at now;- without prob.having experienced decades of the almost sub-sonic Oppressive bearing down of State massively paid 'professionals' and bureaucracy here.



    Sounds like a blend of English and Klingon...wait.I smell a rat..


  • Registered Users Posts: 41,065 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    no they're not. The far right in this country haven't killed anybody. I don't know what the firebombing the car is about, was that not the shinners??

    the only thing the far right have done here is make youtube videos and protested outside google.

    The Shinners car was firebombed because he stood upto the racist scum opposing DP

    They firebombed a proposed DP centre

    They beat up Izzy Kamikaze with a wooden stick

    They called for President Higgins to be murdered and TDs to be hanged.

    Nice try but theres lots of evidence out there that the far right in this country are violent thugs.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users Posts: 374 ✭✭NovemberWren


    gmisk wrote: »
    You don't honestly believe that come on... you know she is talking through her hole like everything else she says...

    You mean the state that have supported her for a large portion of her life, paid her "disability" etc?
    Oh how oppressed she has been!

    recently, some tactic by organised thugs [and the Gardaí] has been in use, 'kettling'; I suppose this is block a, infiltrated, march, front and back - and so in the steam, they will assault each other.

    ain't nothin' new here? has 'kettling' been done by Estate Agents/Banks/Auctioneers for a 100 years now? Block access to making commerce a viable way of life for people like Dee; and the poor have no recourse but to the highly paid and even vast bureaucracy, who are highly imaginative in creating 'labels' for disability.

    Bet those evil TDs are, even now, planning how to grab Cheap Commercial Real Estate and Investor properties - for themselves.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,622 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    WTF are you talking about? Totally incoherent and I can't work out what you are even trying to say.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 32,777 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    recently, some tactic by organised thugs [and the Gardaí] has been in use, 'kettling'; I suppose this is block a, infiltrated, march, front and back - and so in the steam, they will assault each other.

    ain't nothin' new here? has 'kettling' been done by Estate Agents/Banks/Auctioneers for a 100 years now? Block access to making commerce a viable way of life for people like Dee; and the poor have no recourse but to the highly paid and even vast bureaucracy, who are highly imaginative in creating 'labels' for disability.

    Bet those evil TDs are, even now, planning how to grab Cheap Commercial Real Estate and Investor properties - for themselves.
    So your saying....Da banks and da gubbermint made Dee go on da dole?

    That's my best guess, your post honestly makes so little sense.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,783 ✭✭✭knucklehead6


    Wow. And here I was thinking your man Jemel or whatever his name is from 4 pages back was incoherent.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,425 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    gmisk wrote: »
    So your saying....Da banks and da gubbermint made Dee go on da dole?

    That's my best guess, your post honestly makes so little sense.

    god bless you for trying. it was a noble effort but ultimately doomed to failure.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,906 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    recently, some tactic by organised thugs [and the Gardaí] has been in use, 'kettling'; I suppose this is block a, infiltrated, march, front and back - and so in the steam, they will assault each other.

    ain't nothin' new here? has 'kettling' been done by Estate Agents/Banks/Auctioneers for a 100 years now? Block access to making commerce a viable way of life for people like Dee; and the poor have no recourse but to the highly paid and even vast bureaucracy, who are highly imaginative in creating 'labels' for disability.

    Bet those evil TDs are, even now, planning how to grab Cheap Commercial Real Estate and Investor properties - for themselves.

    God how is anyone able to have a job and pay for stuff in Ireland everyone but the elite are just able to do nothing!!! :p:p:p:p


  • Registered Users Posts: 41,065 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    recently, some tactic by organised thugs [and the Gardaí] has been in use, 'kettling'; I suppose this is block a, infiltrated, march, front and back - and so in the steam, they will assault each other.

    ain't nothin' new here? has 'kettling' been done by Estate Agents/Banks/Auctioneers for a 100 years now? Block access to making commerce a viable way of life for people like Dee; and the poor have no recourse but to the highly paid and even vast bureaucracy, who are highly imaginative in creating 'labels' for disability.

    Bet those evil TDs are, even now, planning how to grab Cheap Commercial Real Estate and Investor properties - for themselves.

    Dee is a racist who makes violent threats and coughs on people during a pandemic. You cannot be taken seriously.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,617 ✭✭✭dasdog


    If Gemma and Dee's followers are a yardstick to extremism there should be nothing to worry about. Gem is possibly a paranoid schizophrenic although she is consistent so maybe just paranoid. Dee is an angry ant and the followers just tagging along maybe as their own lives are miserable. Patriots my hole.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,310 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    dasdog wrote: »
    If Gemma and Dee's followers are a yardstick to extremism there should be nothing to worry about. Gem is possibly a paranoid schizophrenic although she is consistent so maybe just paranoid. Dee is an angry ant and the followers just tagging along maybe as their own lives are miserable. Patriots my hole.

    They're not though. They're useful idiots to be be gotten behind to then push it further. Look at the hack of some of the 'followers'.

    And then you get disengenuous spoofers here...


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,617 ✭✭✭dasdog


    Birneybau wrote: »
    They're not though. They're useful idiots to be be gotten behind to then push it further. Look at the hack of some of the 'followers'.

    And look at they way they are pushing their 'cause'. There is none - they have no common cause. It is a fractured rabble and they will have more splits than a INLA meeting could dream of.


  • Registered Users Posts: 285 ✭✭jelem


    dasdog wrote: »
    And look at they way they are pushing their 'cause'. There is none - they have no common cause. It is a fractured rabble and they will have more splits than a INLA meeting could dream of.
    i like the "useful idiots" term as it does point to the government FG and FF parties as Useless Idiots.
    this being the opposite of what you voice against and as such support the Useless Idiots


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,617 ✭✭✭dasdog


    jelem wrote: »
    i like the "useful idiots" term as it does point to the government FG and FF parties as Useless Idiots.
    this being the opposite of what you voice against and as such support the Useless Idiots

    If you are assuming I support or vote FFG you are very mistaken.


  • Registered Users Posts: 34,816 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    I would consider Gemma, Dee and a lot of friends an A-political reactionary group of conspiracy theorists.

    What about all the racist crap they come out with? Is that "A-political" as well?

    no they're not. The far right in this country haven't killed anybody.

    Yet. If they continue whacking unarmed people over the head with flagpoles, it's only a matter of time.
    And "they haven't killed anybody" - talk about a low bar :rolleyes:
    I don't know what the firebombing the car is about, was that not the shinners??

    No it was an SF TD's car firebombed because he criticised the far-right. NB I've zero time for SF, either.
    the only thing the far right have done here is make youtube videos and protested outside google.

    and beat up people in the street
    and called for gays to be lynched

    Gemma alone is directly responsible for stirring up a hate campaign against the mixed-race couple in the Lidl ad - they had to leave the country. Also after a woman in Longford criticised Gemma to her face for photographing and racially abusing her child, Gemma's followers have been harassing her online and offline for over a year now.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,310 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    The Village is looking for the usuals...


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭Nokia6230i


    Deranged Dolores has a video up in which she plays out some "Priest"; he's of the Bible bashing, craw thumping era; it doesn't particularly sound like any Priest these days; such hammerings got toned down when bums on seats became scarce & the coffers began emptying.

    So best guess is it's Siol Na H-Eireanns Niall McConnell or similar & it's a total set-up; she indicates she came across it randomly on her phone or radio? Aye luv, you did and all......

    Was alerted to GOD & Fiona Petit-O'Leary going to be doing a debate (surprised Fi'd agree to this being honest) & lo & behold, a message on GODs site saying there was a malicious hacking......call me cynical but the feedback will be it was done from FO'P-Ls supporters or similar....


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,965 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    jelem wrote: »
    Is this any diferent than the government enforced (dont quote vote result)
    legalising unnatural male pen-s in male an_s which is not natural by Nature
    and as such perverse = perverted.
    oh they government and cant be wrong and thats why ireland is F
    D.
    i am for equal rights BUT on condition that is for all and not just favoured vote collection.

    Just curious - is male pen-s in female an_s natural in your opinion?


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    What about all the racist crap they come out with? Is that "A-political" as well?




    Yet. If they continue whacking unarmed people over the head with flagpoles, it's only a matter of time.
    And "they haven't killed anybody" - talk about a low bar :rolleyes:



    No it was an SF TD's car firebombed because he criticised the far-right. NB I've zero time for SF, either.



    and beat up people in the street
    and called for gays to be lynched

    Gemma alone is directly responsible for stirring up a hate campaign against the mixed-race couple in the Lidl ad - they had to leave the country. Also after a woman in Longford criticised Gemma to her face for photographing and racially abusing her child, Gemma's followers have been harassing her online and offline for over a year now.

    I agree theyre racists , but racism can be a-political , sure dee was a supporter of paul murphy, pictured with him a few times. A lot of them are very left wing economically , they are nationalist - socialists to the extreme and need to be condemned.

    Izzy kamikaze didnt deserve to be hit, but they wasnt an innocent bystander, they went there to pick a fight with these yobs.

    We need to stem the rise of these reactionary racist conspiracy groups , but calling them ‘far right’ or ‘right wing’ is disingenuous considering they are just really nationalist authoritarian socialists living off the state.


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    I agree theyre racists , but racism can be a-political , sure dee was a supporter of paul murphy, pictured with him a few times. A lot of them are very left wing economically , they are nationalist - socialists to the extreme and need to be condemned.

    Izzy kamikaze didnt deserve to be hit, but they wasnt an innocent bystander, they went there to pick a fight with these yobs.

    We need to stem the rise of these reactionary racist conspiracy groups , but calling them ‘far right’ or ‘right wing’ is disingenuous considering they are just really nationalist authoritarian socialists living off the state.
    Counter protesting doesn't mean Izzy wasn't innocent, you say she's undeserving of such an attack but then justify it to some extent which is bizarre.

    You seem to be trying to deny or downplay that they're far right... Some may have been in the Irish left at one point or another but they clearly found a more welcoming home for their views in the far right.


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Counter protesting doesn't mean Izzy wasn't innocent, you say she's undeserving of such an attack but then justify it to some extent which is bizarre.

    You seem to be trying to deny or downplay that they're far right... Some may have been in the Irish left at one point or another but they clearly found a more welcoming home for their views in the far right.

    Izzy was acting in bad faith im justifying nothing , but going into a crowd of these tracksuit clad yobs and getting hit is hardly a surprising outcome, whats that movie where bruce willis wears the sandwich board with the n word written on it...

    Im not downplaying that these people exist, theyre awful and I condemn them , but the left- right of the political spectrum has a huge weighting on economics, i accept that racist views can have an element to it but these people also believe in chemtrails, are against masks and vaccines, anti 5g etc.. theyre a bunch of dole loving nationalist conspiracy theorist loons, if anything just calling them ‘the far right’ down plays the danger these people and their views are. They trick the gullible into believing absolute crap


  • Registered Users Posts: 41,065 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    I agree theyre racists , but racism can be a-political , sure dee was a supporter of paul murphy, pictured with him a few times. A lot of them are very left wing economically , they are nationalist - socialists to the extreme and need to be condemned.

    Izzy kamikaze didnt deserve to be hit, but they wasnt an innocent bystander, they went there to pick a fight with these yobs.

    We need to stem the rise of these reactionary racist conspiracy groups , but calling them ‘far right’ or ‘right wing’ is disingenuous considering they are just really nationalist authoritarian socialists living off the state.

    The far right in this country is dangerous and violent. Stop trying to deny it and deflect elsewhere.

    Proposed DP centre set on fire - far right
    SF TDs car firebombed - far right
    Izzy Kamikaze beaten up - far right
    Constant Racist and violent threats against Aneta Safiak, Fiona Ryan, Hazel Chu, Emer O'Neill - Far right

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users Posts: 540 ✭✭✭PhoneMain


    I dont think Dee and Gemma are far right. They're just assholes, anti consensus, anti establishment. I really believe that if what they perceived to be the majority were anti lockdown and anti masks, they would be full on pro lockdown and masks! Same with things like abortion and gay marriage referendum, they'd just vote against the consensus. There's just people who are d1cks like that, just anti what they view the majority to be against. They're just reactionary and like to be in conflict with other people. I know a few people from home who come out with the most outlandish stuff online just to get a reaction and social media is the perfect echo chamber for their views to go unchallenged. There's 1 guy in particular who has 5000 Facebook friends and under his mad statuses regularly gets called a genius and with a solid world view. Yet anyone who knows him in reality knows he's an absolute eejit!
    Dee is one of these types!

    As the line goes from The Dark Knight goes "Some people just want to watch the world burn".

    I think Gemma has issues with rejection now, she courted the SF vote before the Presidential election and appealed to Panti Bliss, now shes very anti SF and very open in her homophobia since she was rejected by them.

    Now the likes of Niall McConnell in Donegal, he's def far right. And an asshole.

    Just what I believe.


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    The far right in this country is dangerous and violent. Stop trying to deny it and deflect elsewhere.

    Proposed DP centre set on fire - far right
    SF TDs car firebombed - far right
    Izzy Kamikaze beaten up - far right
    Constant Racist and violent threats against Aneta Safiak, Fiona Ryan, Hazel Chu, Emer O'Neill - Far right
    Threatened to Murder President Higgins - Far right

    Barrys tea - far right
    Bovril - far right
    Damien marley - far right
    Super valu - far right

    Just because you dont like something or somebody holds some beliefs you dont like doesnt make it far right


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,425 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    jelem wrote: »
    Is this any diferent than the government enforced (dont quote vote result)
    legalising unnatural male pen-s in male an_s which is not natural by Nature
    and as such perverse = perverted.

    oh they government and cant be wrong and thats why ireland is F
    D.
    i am for equal rights BUT on condition that is for all and not just favoured vote collection.

    You're complaining about something that happened nearly 30 years ago?


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,965 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Deshawn wrote: »
    Far left parties have no place in dail eireann. Yet here we are

    I think it is the electorate that decides who has a place in Dail Eireann, not you.
    Izzy was acting in bad faith im justifying nothing , but going into a crowd of these tracksuit clad yobs and getting hit is hardly a surprising outcome, whats that movie where bruce willis wears the sandwich board with the n word written on it...
    When 10 year old Bart tried that logic, we all laughed at how silly it was.



    They attacked a fifty-something woman, and you're victim blaming.


  • Subscribers Posts: 41,586 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Everyone left of the far right is 'far left'


  • Registered Users Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Mod

    @jelem, dont post in this thread again.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 192 ✭✭Deshawn


    I think it is the electorate that decides who has a place in Dail Eireann, not you.

    If a party who are openly far right ever got into the dail I wonder would you change your tune.


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