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Gemma not taking enforced retirement too well

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  • Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    All four or five of them can have a meeting in a phonebox, and spout extreme left wing ****e, but no, no they're not anywhere near as nuts as Gemma and Dee. They don't (to my knowledge) spread bull**** about 5G, chemtrails, vaccines, "Covid is a conspiracy to get us all to just obey the government."

    Because "America has brainwashed us all to hate communism" "Ireland needs to ban American tourism and impoverish rural Ireland so they can see the light of communism" " close down the meat factories and install communism" "fine geal are facsists out to oppress the poor for their American overlords" "we should be defending ultras (football hooligans) groups as theyre a working class army to help with the revolution" is so much better.

    Its nuts, its classist hate crime against those who've done well, theyre advocating for violence against the middle and upper echelons of society and blaming America or the Torys for everything. Inciting violence, praising dictators like Stalin and Castro.

    Don't get me wrong, Gemma and dee are nuts but I can't recall off the top of my head when either of them praised the works of Adolf hitler by name, this crowd proudly espouse the works of Stalin, a more brutal dictator with a higher kill count.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,425 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Just looked up the CYM, they don't even veil it with 'socialism' theyre full blown communists and Facebook is full of posts alleging every soviet failure is a CIA conspiracy.

    These people are actually just as, if not more nuts than Gemma etc..

    that they style themselves the Connolly Youth Movement should be a pretty broad clue as to their beliefs. But they are a youth movement and young people tend to have pretty strong beliefs until they get a bang of the real world. the likes of Gemma have no such excuse. Plus the CYM don't go around harassing people on camera nor do they believe anything half as nutty as Gemma so I don't see the comparison between them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,050 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Deshawn wrote: »
    Cup of soup.
    Cup-a-soup.

    Different

    You're right, of course. Individual, branded, cup-a-soups? Far too expensive for Aramark to be using, even at cash-and-carry prices. Clearly they would have used a huge catering-brand/generic tub of the stuff to prepare and dished it out into cups with a ladle.


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    You're right, of course. Individual, branded, cup-a-soups? Far too expensive for Aramark to be using, even at cash-and-carry prices. Clearly they would have used a huge catering-brand/generic tub of the stuff to prepare and dished it out into cups with a ladle.

    the picture clearly shows actual vegetable soup, not water and powder in a cup. It wasn't a bad meal, and sure if they don't like it they can go home to where a gormless government doesn't spend billions giving them everything under the sun.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 192 ✭✭Deshawn


    You're right, of course. Individual, branded, cup-a-soups? Far too expensive for Aramark to be using, even at cash-and-carry prices. Clearly they would have used a huge catering-brand/generic tub of the stuff to prepare and dished it out into cups with a ladle.

    Like in a canteen? Large tubs of commercial size soup.

    Outrageous


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  • Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    that they style themselves the Connolly Youth Movement should be a pretty broad clue as to their beliefs. But they are a youth movement and young people tend to have pretty strong beliefs until they get a bang of the real world. the likes of Gemma have no such excuse. Plus the CYM don't go around harassing people on camera nor do they believe anything half as nutty as Gemma so I don't see the comparison between them.

    Im sure their members regularly harass people while protesting, just under the antifa banner instead.

    IMO believing in communism, or that its a viable system is way more nuts than 5G or antivaxx stuff, both of which are pretty high up on the scales of stupid things to believe in. But we'll have to agree to disagree as I'd imagine you don't see it as the horror show of humanity that I do.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,425 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Im sure their members regularly harass people while protesting, just under the antifa banner instead.

    Did you have to hire a crane to move those massive goalposts?
    IMO believing in communism, or that its a viable system is way more nuts than 5G or antivaxx stuff, both of which are pretty high up on the scales of stupid things to believe in. But we'll have to agree to disagree as I'd imagine you don't see it as the horror show of humanity that I do.

    they're more marxist than communist.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Because "America has brainwashed us all to hate communism" "Ireland needs to ban American tourism and impoverish rural Ireland so they can see the light of communism" " close down the meat factories and install communism" "fine geal are facsists out to oppress the poor for their American overlords" "we should be defending ultras (football hooligans) groups as theyre a working class army to help with the revolution" is so much better.

    Its nuts, its classist hate crime against those who've done well, theyre advocating for violence against the middle and upper echelons of society and blaming America or the Torys for everything. Inciting violence, praising dictators like Stalin and Castro.

    Don't get me wrong, Gemma and dee are nuts but I can't recall off the top of my head when either of them praised the works of Adolf hitler by name, this crowd proudly espouse the works of Stalin, a more brutal dictator with a higher kill count.

    It's pretty clear that tangible consequences from Gemma and Co are far more apparent than that of a group that most people never heard of until now. She targeted Children because they weren't white which cause a global pile on from white supremacists globally. She drove a couple out of the country because they were mixed race in a lidl ad.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,839 ✭✭✭Odelay


    You're right, of course. Individual, branded, cup-a-soups? Far too expensive for Aramark to be using, even at cash-and-carry prices. Clearly they would have used a huge catering-brand/generic tub of the stuff to prepare and dished it out into cups with a ladle.

    I think you’re getting very worked up over a simple soup and sandwich lunch meal. I doubt it was the only thing on the menu, but that won’t suit some people’s agenda.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,050 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Odelay wrote: »
    I think you’re getting very worked up over a simple soup and sandwich lunch meal. I doubt it was the only thing on the menu, but that won’t suit some people’s agenda.

    "Menu" - lol, good one!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 28,959 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Odelay wrote: »
    I think you’re getting very worked up over a simple soup and sandwich lunch meal. I doubt it was the only thing on the menu, but that won’t suit some people’s agenda.

    There is no menu. They don't get to choose.
    “We know how the catholic church treated people in the past” is your justification for allowing the promotion and celebration of a religion in which :

    Their main prophet married a 9 year old
    People who drew cartoons of that prophet were massacred in france.
    Women are treated with as much agency and autonomy as a lamp
    Lgbt teachings in uk schools are firmly protested
    Gay people are thrown off buildings in some countries
    Childrens concerts are bombed in the name of islam.

    This “but the catholic church” is the most bad faith argument in favour of islam that could possibly be conceived.


    Fishing boats with children on board bombed in the name of Ireland. How can you promote and celebrate Ireland when people bombed fishing boats with children on board for Ireland?

    That's how the 'guilt by association' tactic works, right?


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,959 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    :pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

    a- You seem to for some reason believe a Twitter post, by some randomer who by her name does not live in a DP centre and by her attitude probably doesn't work in one either (probably doesn't work anywhere TBH but anyway)

    b- Let's assume it is real. Are you aware that in the Anglosphere there are different meals per day?

    Brekkie in the morning. Lunch perhaps around 1pm if the cooked dinner isn't due til 5 or 6.

    Grainne seems to be suggesting that the residents were given a small sandwich and a soup for their Christmas dinner.

    Do you have proof that this is the case, or that this wasn't merely to tide them over between brekkie and dinner, or that Grainne even has a mole inside the DP centre?

    You remind me of the type of person who believes the Pakistani security guard in work who tells him he is only in the job because racist Ireland refuses to recognise his heart surgery qualifications. :pac::pac::pac:
    Where exactly did Grainne suggest that this was their Christmas dinner? She specifically referred to lunch in her tweet.

    You're right that she doesn't work in DP or live in DP, because those people are under threats from their employer/host NOT to share photos on social media, so they have to go through 3rd parties. You'd wonder what they are afraid of.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,050 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    There is no menu. They don't get to choose.




    Fishing boats with children on board bombed in the name of Ireland. How can you promote and celebrate Ireland when people bombed fishing boats with children on board for Ireland?

    That's how the 'guilt by association' tactic works, right?

    Oh, I already replied to all of Eric's Islamophobic points on that post, but he had no comeback, so he started talking about all those times the Connolly Youth Movement harassed all those people with livestreamed in-your-face harassment...


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,702 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Oh my - you mean they'll get a total of two slices of tomato?

    They'll eat like kings tonight for sure.

    Should anyone who rocks up in this country be "eating like a king"?

    There are a lot of Irish people who aren't eating like kings.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,959 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Should anyone who rocks up in this country be "eating like a king"?

    There are a lot of Irish people who aren't eating like kings.

    DJ was telling us how they're treated like royalty in Direct Provision.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=115674303


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,616 ✭✭✭dasdog


    If anyone wants a giggle aciquestion has posted a few videos of Dee's convoy to the North this afternoon. As someone pointed out - it's like a skit from Paths to Freedom.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,702 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Surely staff from social welfare would be interested in some of these videos?

    All they need to do is invite her in for a chat.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,050 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Surely staff from social welfare would be interested in some of these videos?

    Well, you'd think...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭doublejobbing 2


    Just looked up the CYM, they don't even veil it with 'socialism' theyre full blown communists and Facebook is full of posts alleging every soviet failure is a CIA conspiracy.

    These people are actually just as, if not more nuts than Gemma etc..

    Death tolls of scores of millions under communism is also a conspiracy theory* put out by the CIA.

    I don't quite get where this theory ends and Holocaust Denial begins, but they clearly know the difference :pac:

    *: that being deaths of regular Joe Publics. Mass executions of enemies of the state are celebrated.


  • Registered Users Posts: 41,062 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Death tolls of scores of millions under communism is also a conspiracy theory* put out by the CIA.

    I don't quite get where this theory ends and Holocaust Denial begins, but they clearly know the difference :pac:

    *: that being deaths of regular Joe Publics. Mass executions of enemies of the state are celebrated.

    Whatabout whataboutery.... kinda hilarious here how some go out of their way to do all this whataboutery

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭doublejobbing 2


    The thing is the issues of conditions in direct provision are well established, you simply ignore them. You've been offered plenty of accounts and investigations into the conditions of direct provision.

    Legitimate accounts? By who, down the years?

    Sorcha Pollak? Who is so confused about exactly what the asylum system is built for she happily reported the New To the Parish story of a Brazillian lad who came here with his family, lodged an application, returned home for a year, got bored at home and came back here, and was aghast to find his asylum application had been binned seeing as Brazil appeared to be a safe enough place to see out the awful Irish winter?

    Or Kitty Holland may have wrote a piece. Holland the investigative journalist who didn't once query how some Kurdish lad was handed a 700K one bed flat in the middle of a housing crisis.

    Ebun Joseph prpbably raised it at some stage between ranting on live TV at Niall Boylan and trying to get some teenager sacked from a bar for getting her drink order wrong.

    Amnesty International and Colm O'Gorman perhaps. Just because they lied through their teeth about how Ibrahim Halawa ended up in prison doesn't mean they would lie about DP does it.

    Ruth Coppinger maybe? Her who led a campaign that drove a rugby player acquitted of rape out of the country but didn't do a thing about a Nigerian LOI player actually convicted of a sex offence here who then continued to play?

    Or should I believe the Migrant Council, the Refugee Council and any other bloated quango who need to invent a problem to justify their own government funded budgets?

    RTE have sent their hidden cameras in to nursing homes, local councillors offices, overcrowded Dublin houseshares, creches, our hospitals and a few other state/ state regulated sectors, exposing corruption, poor/ dangerous living conditions, violence etc etc etc.

    Why no DP expose? Perhaps because canteen food and no Sky Sports package on the centre TV is a minor inconvenience, not mistreatment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭doublejobbing 2



    , this crowd proudly espouse the works of Stalin, .

    No probably about it, Stalinist and proud. Even laud Kin Jong.

    I had a scroll earlier and while I couldn't find a Pol Pot endorsement, I really wouldn't be surprised.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭V8 Interceptor


    dasdog wrote: »
    Many of the last few posts are Trumpism which is a dying breed. They do however speak their own warped truth. Remedial is some respects.
    Could you expand on that Sir?
    It’s better than the pope celebrating a mass in the Phoenix park, and we all know how the Catholic Church treated people in Ireland.

    So because the RCC was bad your solution is to import another religion/way of life that is even worse???
    dasdog wrote: »
    As far as I'm concerned, worship whatever sky-fairy you want, I don't care, as long as it doesn't impact on me or mine. If that means the Christian World Meeting of Families or an Eid celebration in Croke Park, grand, let them at it.

    That is either very selfish or extremely short sighted.

    Islam might not be impinging on you now but it will eventually if it keeps growing. Or it could be the case that you live in an area that will never be affected by this type of immigration.

    I don't know how these kinds of posts keep garnering so many "likes". Joey made a false statement about the Muslims not getting dispensation for Eid and it got a whole host of "likes". But when corrected, that post didn't get any and Joey never acknowledged his error.

    There's an alarming amount of ignorance about Islam and its impact in the west on this Board. Especially so considering the same people rightly criticise the role of the RCC in the past but for some reason are blind to the threat of another more regressive cult emerging in this Country.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 192 ✭✭Deshawn


    Legitimate accounts? By who, down the years?

    Sorcha Pollak? Who is so confused about exactly what the asylum system is built for she happily reported the New To the Parish story of a Brazillian lad who came here with his family, lodged an application, returned home for a year, got bored at home and came back here, and was aghast to find his asylum application had been binned seeing as Brazil appeared to be a safe enough place to see out the awful Irish winter?

    Or Kitty Holland may have wrote a piece. Holland the investigative journalist who didn't once query how some Kurdish lad was handed a 700K one bed flat in the middle of a housing crisis.

    Ebun Joseph prpbably raised it at some stage between ranting on live TV at Niall Boylan and trying to get some teenager sacked from a bar for getting her drink order wrong.

    Amnesty International and Colm O'Gorman perhaps. Just because they lied through their teeth about how Ibrahim Halawa ended up in prison doesn't mean they would like about DP does it.

    Ruth Coppinger maybe? Her who led a campaign that drove a rugby player acquitted of rape out of the country but didn't do a thing about a Nigerian LOI player actually convicted of a sex offence here who then continued to play?

    Or should I believe the Migrant Council, the Refugee Council and any other bloated quango who need to invent a problem to justify their own government funded budgets?

    RTE have sent their hidden cameras in to nursing homes, local councillors offices, overcrowded Dublin houseshares, creches, our hospitals and a few other state/ state regulated sectors, exposing corruption, poor/ dangerous living conditions, violence etc etc etc.

    Why no DP expose? Perhaps because canteen food and no Sky Sports package on the centre TV is a minor inconvenience, not mistreatment.

    Post of the thread.

    Bualadh bos


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭doublejobbing 2


    Where exactly did Grainne suggest that this was their Christmas dinner? She specifically referred to lunch in her tweet.

    If she wasn't implying it was their dinner what was the problem with it being a lunch option?
    You're right that she doesn't work in DP or live in DP, because those people are under threats from their employer/host NOT to share photos on social media, so they have to go through 3rd parties. You'd wonder what they are afraid of.

    I do wonder what they are afraid of. As much as some of you think otherwise a DP centre is not akin to a magdalene laundry in 1952.

    I have not to date seen verifiable evidence of long standing abuse or mistreatment of DP residents. Like any organ of the state there may be a failure of service for a short period, but inferences that residents regularly face days, weeks, months of substandard food and accommodation are as of yet unsubstantiated no matter how much you wish it were not the case.


  • Registered Users Posts: 285 ✭✭jelem


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    If racist means loving your family and by extension to that your country and wanting to defend both as well the western way of life then I'm a racist and proud. In order to do that I believe your borders should be shut as the saying goes you don't lock your door because you hate the people outside you do because you love the people inside.

    Same concept here close the borders to defend our country it's culture, heritage and values.
    YOU are what some call british as "little englanders".
    amazing how people not realise when joining common "callings" they
    are of the same ilk


  • Registered Users Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    dasdog wrote: »
    If anyone wants a giggle aciquestion has posted a few videos of Dee's convoy to the North this afternoon. As someone pointed out - it's like a skit from Paths to Freedom.

    link?


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,425 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭V8 Interceptor


    Gemma targeted Children because they weren't white which cause a global pile on from white supremacists globally. She drove a couple out of the country because they were mixed race in a lidl ad.

    Well no she didn't actually.

    She put out a photo showing the alarming shrinkage of Irish children in many Irish schools. And the Lidl Ad was a farce from start to finish. The notion that bloody Gemma drove that couple out of Ireland is as ridiculous as the DP center giving a half cup of soup and a piece of bread for Christmas dinner.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭doublejobbing 2


    People moaning about the conditions in DP never fail to remind me of this scene from Naked Gun, 1 minute in :pac:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hghyz2yWtWQ

    Seriously. I fled Albania with just the clothes on my back after seeing my grandmother fed to a pack of starved army dogs and my father fired out of a giant catapult, but the last straw was when they sent me somewhere as boring as the outskirts of Mullingar where we had fish fingers and mash two days in a row last week.:(


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