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Gemma not taking enforced retirement too well

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    #1892
    Annasopra
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    tigger123 wrote: »
    What's that based on?!

    Probably because she called for greater action against racism. Some people are angry that she doesn't like being racially abused and they want free speech to racially abuse her.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #1893
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users Posts: 20,977 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Hazel Chu is a facist and an idiot . Ryan tubridy is a bubble dwelling tax dodging coward.
    Neither are worth paying any attention to.

    Never thought I'd be defending tubridy but are you calling him a tax Dodger because he's a contractor?


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    #1894
    Utter Consternation
    Registered Users Posts: 926 ✭✭✭Utter Consternation


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Probably because she called for greater action against racism. Some people are angry that she doesn't like being racially abused and they want free speech to racially abuse her.

    It's so incredibly sad that this is the truth.

    But here we are...


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    #1895
    Seanachai
    Registered Users Posts: 2,540 ✭✭✭Seanachai


    FTA69 wrote: »
    I think the likes of O’Doherty and Croft etc are 100% manifestations of a global upsurge in far right or quasi-fascist politics; however they’re also politically insignificant, mired in conspiracy and would be viewed as off the wall by nearly everyone. Contrast the muppets outside Google with the numbers and sorts of people the far right in England have pulled off (Tommy Robinson and the DFLA etc) and you’ll have an idea of the scale of the problem.

    I think a far more worrying development in real terms will be the emergence of a new populist right that will gain traction amongst swathes of middle Ireland who are annoyed with long commutes, crap services, high taxes etc; there could well be mass scapegoating of Travellers, migrants, unemployed etc and you could see the rise of someone like Peter Casey on steroids.

    If I was concerned about the right and far-right I don’t think the biggest problem is Black and Tan Torino or some shrill idiot banging on about 5G.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/National-Populism-Against-Liberal-Democracy/dp/0241312000/ref=sr_1_1?adgrpid=65611339913&gclid=CjwKCAjwnMTqBRAzEiwAEF3nduCAvlUMnGxuT99KB9Bhgfjuy6PrOYC-xGZ-45czXv9zrY0_OE_A2RoCc-cQAvD_BwE&hvadid=320653031269&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=1007850&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t2&hvqmt=e&hvrand=14065138668341908554&hvtargid=kwd-555571695259&hydadcr=24629_1795953&keywords=national+populism+book&qid=1565620647&s=gateway&sr=8-1


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    #1896
    cookie1977
    Registered Users Posts: 6,794 ✭✭✭cookie1977


    Seanachai wrote: »
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/National-Populism-Against-Liberal-Democracy/dp/0241312000/ref=sr_1_1?adgrpid=65611339913&gclid=CjwKCAjwnMTqBRAzEiwAEF3nduCAvlUMnGxuT99KB9Bhgfjuy6PrOYC-xGZ-45czXv9zrY0_OE_A2RoCc-cQAvD_BwE&hvadid=320653031269&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=1007850&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t2&hvqmt=e&hvrand=14065138668341908554&hvtargid=kwd-555571695259&hydadcr=24629_1795953&keywords=national+populism+book&qid=1565620647&s=gateway&sr=8-1
    I'm not sure if you're pro or anti the link but I wouldn't be interested in reading anything from someone who's so confident in himself he had to eat a page of his own book after previous stupid statements:
    https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/june2017/2017/06/watch-politics-expert-matthew-goodwin-eats-his-own-book-live-tv-after


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    #1897
    MontgomeryClift
    Registered Users Posts: 1,058 ✭✭✭MontgomeryClift


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    I didn't see much diversity in the counter protest

    Ah, be fair now. It had a great variety of cat ladies, lesbians and bug men.


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    #1898
    Seanachai
    Registered Users Posts: 2,540 ✭✭✭Seanachai


    cookie1977 wrote: »
    I'm not sure if you're pro or anti the link but I wouldn't be interested in reading anything from someone who's so confident in himself he had to eat a page of his own book after previous stupid statements:
    https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/june2017/2017/06/watch-politics-expert-matthew-goodwin-eats-his-own-book-live-tv-after

    So he was wrong about a result, he doesn't claim to be psychic. I think his read on what's happening now is pretty succinct though. He's basically affirming what you said about the opening for populism here.


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    #1899
    Annasopra
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    Utter Consternation wrote: »
    It's so incredibly sad that this is the truth.

    But here we are...

    I don't accept it as merely sad. It's fascist hate that should be resisted at every opportunity.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #1900
    cookie1977
    Registered Users Posts: 6,794 ✭✭✭cookie1977


    Seanachai wrote: »
    So he was wrong about a result, he doesn't claim to be psychic. I think his read on what's happening now is pretty succinct though. He's basically affirming what you said about the opening for populism here.
    We can all be wrong, that's a given, but I'm always wary of people (on any side) who have absolute confidence in their opinion such that they'd happily say they'll eat their book if they were wrong.


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    #1901
    ollkiller
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    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Hazel Chu is a facist and an idiot . Ryan tubridy is a bubble dwelling tax dodging coward.
    Neither are worth paying any attention to.

    I'll bite. How is Hazel a facist?............this should be good.


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    #1902
    sk8erboii
    Site Banned Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭sk8erboii


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Hazel Chu is a facist and an idiot . Ryan tubridy is a bubble dwelling tax dodging coward.
    Neither are worth paying any attention to.

    LOOOOOOOOOOOOL

    Desperate damage control


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    #1903
    davedanon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭davedanon


    ollkiller wrote: »
    I'll bite. How is Hazel a facist?............this should be good.

    She hates faces.


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    #1904
    whippet
    Registered Users Posts: 7,682 ✭✭✭whippet


    Seems
    Like the guards have had enough of her nonsense !! Check out her screeching and whataboutery on Facebook now !!!


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    #1905
    davedanon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭davedanon


    She's on with Matt Cooper right now. Fairly reasonable-sounding, for a fascist.


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    #1906
    Blueshoe
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    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    I don't accept it as merely sad. It's fascist hate that should be resisted at every opportunity.

    Those who don't respect the vote for Brexit or Trump as president are also facist by definition.

    Hazel Chu is also a facist


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    #1907
    cookie1977
    Registered Users Posts: 6,794 ✭✭✭cookie1977


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Those who don't respect the vote for Brexit or Trump as president are also facist by definition.

    Hazel Chu is also a facist
    1+1=2019???


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    #1908
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    cookie1977 wrote: »
    1+1=2019???

    Definition of facism by Britannica.com : including extreme militaristic nationalism, contempt for electoral democracy and political and cultural liberalism, a belief in natural social hierarchy and the rule of elites, and the desire to create a Volksgemeinschaft (German: “people’s community”), in which individual interests would be subordinated to the good of the nation.

    See the part about contempt for electoral democracy. People who don't accept the leave vote or Trump as president are by definition facists.

    Chu is also a facist


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    #1909
    Overheal
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    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Definition of facism by Britannica.com : including extreme militaristic nationalism, contempt for electoral democracy and political and cultural liberalism, a belief in natural social hierarchy and the rule of elites, and the desire to create a Volksgemeinschaft (German: “people’s community”), in which individual interests would be subordinated to the good of the nation.

    See the part about contempt for electoral democracy. People who don't accept the leave vote or Trump as president are by definition facists.

    Chu is also a facist

    Sure that makes anyone who was ever upset about an election outcome a fascist. So, everyone. Lol


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    #1910
    ollkiller
    Registered Users Posts: 854 ✭✭✭ollkiller


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Those who don't respect the vote for Brexit or Trump as president are also facist by definition.

    Hazel Chu is also a facist

    Its fascist isn't it (I know I spelt it incorrectly myself earlier). Anyway that's the biggest load of codswallop ever. That's not what a fascist is lad.


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    #1911
    Overheal
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    Her Facebook videos are great craic- ‘oh they’re coming with the vans soon, this will be it for me...’ a poorly skilled edgelord who isn’t getting the response she wants.


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    #1912
    davedanon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭davedanon


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    See the part about contempt for electoral democracy. People who don't accept the leave vote or Trump as president are by definition facists.

    Chu is also a facist


    That is really quite special.


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    #1913
    cookie1977
    Registered Users Posts: 6,794 ✭✭✭cookie1977


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Definition of facism by Britannica.com : including extreme militaristic nationalism, contempt for electoral democracy and political and cultural liberalism, a belief in natural social hierarchy and the rule of elites, and the desire to create a Volksgemeinschaft (German: “people’s community”), in which individual interests would be subordinated to the good of the nation.

    See the part about contempt for electoral democracy. People who don't accept the leave vote or Trump as president are by definition facists.

    Chu is also a facist
    contempt for electoral democracy - brexit bus nhs figures
    the rule of elites - Boris ignoring the will of parliament, Trump ignoring the law
    individual interests would be subordinated to the good of the nation - Boris and Trump


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    #1914
    Blueshoe
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    ollkiller wrote: »
    Its fascist isn't it (I know I spelt it incorrectly myself earlier). Anyway that's the biggest load of codswallop ever. That's not what a fascist is lad.

    Find me a different definition.

    Prove me wrong lad


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    #1915
    davedanon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭davedanon


    ollkiller wrote: »
    Its fascist isn't it (I know I spelt it incorrectly myself earlier). Anyway that's the biggest load of codswallop ever. That's not what a fascist is lad.


    Yep, fascist, from fasces which is Latin for 'bundle of sticks', used to beat people. So right from the get-go, fascism was essentially about violence.

    "The fist is our policy"


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    #1916
    cookie1977
    Registered Users Posts: 6,794 ✭✭✭cookie1977


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Find me a different definition.

    Prove me wrong lad
    Well the actual britannica.com definition is actually more of a historical description of fascism and it actually says:
    https://www.britannica.com/topic/fascism
    Although fascist parties and movements differed significantly from one another, they had many characteristics in common,...
    So they were describing historical not modern fascism/populism.


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    #1917
    Blueshoe
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    cookie1977 wrote: »
    contempt for electoral democracy - brexit bus nhs figures
    the rule of elites - Boris ignoring the will of parliament, Trump ignoring the law
    individual interests would be subordinated to the good of the nation - Boris and Trump

    I don't like the vote. We need to have another one

    Not my president

    Blah blah facism


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    #1918
    cookie1977
    Registered Users Posts: 6,794 ✭✭✭cookie1977


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    I don't like the vote. We need to have another one

    Not my president

    Blah blah facism
    blah blah blah?


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    #1919
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    cookie1977 wrote: »
    blah blah blah?

    Racist!!

    On another note. Did you see this?

    https://youtu.be/UPLQNUVmq3o

    These people left reality behind a long time ago


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    #1920
    The Nal
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    That migrant was just on Today FM. The amount of hate shes received in the last few days is sickening.


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    #1921
    davedanon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭davedanon


    The Brexit vote was on a knife-edge, in no way a landslide, and it was NEVER about no-deal. They specifically ruled it out. Agitating for democratic change and a second vote isn't fascism. It's democracy.

    Trump is a white nationalist, a thug and a racist. He's also a demagogue who cosies up to dictators and strongmen. At NO TIME has anyone disputed his democratic election, despite the GOP's despicable vote-rigging, partisan gerrymandering and the Russians' online efforts to interfere in the election - which Trump welcomed.

    And the word, which you evidently don't understand, and can't even spell - is Fascism


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