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Gemma not taking enforced retirement too well

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    #2492
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 82,765 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    when feminists advocated for the burning of bra's , do you think for one second that anyone played the mental gymnastics of "they mean run up to random women and burn their bra's "

    No because feminists called on women to burn their own bras.

    Clutching at straws there EC


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    #2493
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Overheal wrote: »
    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    when feminists advocated for the burning of bra's , do you think for one second that anyone played the mental gymnastics of "they mean run up to random women and burn their bra's "

    No because feminists called on women to burn their own bras.

    Clutching at straws there EC

    If you want to talk about clutching at straws take a look in the mirror pal, youve been clutching at the made up idea that im advocating attacking young girls for pages now, its not sticking.


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    #2494
    Overheal
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    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    If you want to talk about clutching at straws take a look in the mirror pal, youve been clutching at the made up idea that im advocating attacking young girls for pages now, its not sticking.

    I don’t know what you mean,

    Someone linked to Gemma telling people to “burn any hijabs that you see”

    You gave an unqualified endorsement of that. You’ve since spent the morning trying to backpedal.


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    #2495
    AndrewJRenko
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    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    when feminists advocated for the burning of bra's , do you think for one second that anyone played the mental gymnastics of "they mean run up to random women and burn their bra's "

    Feminists had their own bras to burn. You and Gemma supporters don't have your own hijabs to burn.

    Gemma called on her supporters to burn any hijabs that they see. You said this was one of the few things that she got right.

    You're advocating violence against women and children. Classy.


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    #2496
    [Deleted User]
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    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    when feminists advocated for the burning of bra's , do you think for one second that anyone played the mental gymnastics of "they mean run up to random women and burn their bra's "

    The thing is that the call to burn bras is a myth, the call that tit made to her supporters isn't.


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    #2497
    Utter Consternation
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    DubInMeath wrote: »
    The thing is that the call to burn bras is a myth, the call that tit made to her supporters isn't.

    An incitement to hatred basically. I see on twitter that a Councillor has reported her to the Gardai over it.


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    #2498
    SoundsRight
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 408 ✭✭SoundsRight


    Surely the Gardai have better things to be doing than looking at some harmless tweets. This FG councillor must live in a very privileged area if this is what gets him all hot and bothered.


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    #2499
    cookie1977
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    SoundsRight wrote: »
    Surely the Gardai have better things to be doing than looking at some harmless tweets. This FG councillor must live in a very privileged area if this is what gets him all hot and bothered.
    You'd prefer to wait for someone to act out her request ala trump and his "punch him" comments??


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    #2500
    [Deleted User]
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    Utter Consternation wrote: »
    An incitement to hatred basically. I see on twitter that a Councillor has reported her to the Gardai over it.

    Could also be seen by some as an incitement to commit assault, given that unless her supporters are going to commit trespass or breaking and entering where are they going to find these garments in order to burn them.


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    #2501
    Overheal
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    SoundsRight wrote: »
    Surely the Gardai have better things to be doing than looking at some harmless tweets. This FG councillor must live in a very privileged area if this is what gets him all hot and bothered.

    ”harmless”

    https://www.irishpost.com/news/young-muslim-girls-kicked-egged-dublin-gang-allegedly-pulled-hijabs-off-170319


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    #2502
    SoundsRight
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 408 ✭✭SoundsRight


    Overheal wrote: »
    ”harmless”

    https://www.irishpost.com/news/young-muslim-girls-kicked-egged-dublin-gang-allegedly-pulled-hijabs-off-170319

    Yes, burning an item of clothing harms no-one.

    The 'assault' looks like any other egging by little scamps in Dublin, there was no evidence of any religious element to it. This is the most tolerant country in the world for Muslims. Maybe a little too tolerant.


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    #2503
    cookie1977
    Registered Users Posts: 6,794 ✭✭✭cookie1977


    SoundsRight wrote: »
    Yes, burning an item of clothing harms no-one.

    The 'assault' looks like any other egging by little scamps in Dublin, there was no evidence of any religious element to it. This is the most tolerant country in the world for Muslims. Maybe a little too tolerant.
    Prey tell how the average lunatic gets hold of a hijab they see and burns it without assaulting the wearer???


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    #2504
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    I can see why political correctness is so important. I hadn't read that quote from Gemma until now but reading Eric Cartman's posts, I knew he didn't literally mean violently remove the hijab and burn it or burn it off their backs. It's a turn of phrase. I'm sure Gemma didn't mean it literally either but here we are. Be politically correct if you don't want to be misunderstood. It's like the way Trump supporters constantly have to come to his defense, bending over backwards to tell you what he really meant with a controversial statement.


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    #2505
    Overheal
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    Or just don’t say things that violently irrational fringe lunatics won’t latch to


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    #2506
    SoundsRight
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    cookie1977 wrote: »
    Prey tell how the average lunatic gets hold of a hijab they see and burns it without assaulting the wearer???

    It's a hack of a leap to go from 'burn hijabs' to 'assault women and burn their hijabs'. If people are uncomfortable with the practice of keeping women under male control, they have a right to protest against it.


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    #2507
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    I can see why political correctness is so important. I hadn't read that quote from Gemma until now but reading Eric Cartman's posts, I knew he didn't literally mean violently remove the hijab and burn it or burn it off their backs. It's a turn of phrase. I'm sure Gemma didn't mean it literally either but here we are. Be politically correct if you don't want to be misunderstood. It's like the way Trump supporters constantly have to come to his defense, bending over backwards to tell you what he really meant with a controversial statement.

    I think you mean correct grammar, something an ex journalist should be capable of. But maybe she's just dumbing down to the level of her supporters.


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    #2508
    cookie1977
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    SoundsRight wrote: »
    It's a hack of a leap to go from 'burn hijabs' to 'assault women and burn their hijabs'. If people are uncomfortable with the practice of keeping women under male control, they have a right to protest against it.
    It really isn't. This isn't a woman who wants to empower women based on all her other comments.


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    #2509
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    SoundsRight wrote: »
    It's a hack of a leap to go from 'burn hijabs' to 'assault women and burn their hijabs'. If people are uncomfortable with the practice of keeping women under male control, they have a right to protest against it.

    Nice try but given some of your post history you haven't any issues with women being controlled.


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    #2510
    Annasopra
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    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    when feminists advocated for the burning of bra's , do you think for one second that anyone played the mental gymnastics of "they mean run up to random women and burn their bra's "

    This isnt about Gemmas asking Muslims to burn their hijabs though. Its Gemma asking far right Islamophobes to burn any hijsb they see. Big difference.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #2511
    Annasopra
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    cookie1977 wrote: »
    You'd prefer to wait for someone to act out her request ala trump and his "punch him" comments??

    We don't have to wait.

    https://www.joe.ie/news/gardai-investigating-assault-dundrum-678588

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #2512
    SoundsRight
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    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    We don't have to wait.

    https://www.joe.ie/news/gardai-investigating-assault-dundrum-678588

    And when two white European girls go walking round a Muslim country, they are treated with such respect.

    https://news.sky.com/story/fifteen-men-charged-over-beheadings-of-female-hikers-in-morocco-11595382


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    #2513
    cookie1977
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    SoundsRight wrote: »
    And when two white European girls go walking round a Muslim country, they are treated with such respect.

    https://news.sky.com/story/fifteen-men-charged-over-beheadings-of-female-hikers-in-morocco-11595382
    oooh we're back to more whataboutism. Yippee.


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    #2514
    Homesick Alien
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    Saw her chatting to a lad with an Infowars hat on just now 🙄


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    #2515
    batgoat
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    SoundsRight wrote: »
    And when two white European girls go walking round a Muslim country, they are treated with such respect.

    https://news.sky.com/story/fifteen-men-charged-over-beheadings-of-female-hikers-in-morocco-11595382

    So you've moved on to trying to justifying assaults based on a person's religion.


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    #2516
    bobmalooka
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    SoundsRight wrote: »
    And when two white European girls go walking round a Muslim country, they are treated with such respect.

    https://news.sky.com/story/fifteen-men-charged-over-beheadings-of-female-hikers-in-morocco-11595382

    What’s your logic here? We should try to bridge the gap of depravity?


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    #2517
    SoundsRight
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    bobmalooka wrote: »
    What’s your logic here? We should try to bridge the gap of depravity?

    We are the most tolerant country in the world. It's embarrassing how people are twisting this 'assault' into something it's not. Why didn't she call the gardai, instead of taking a video? Would be interesting to see what happened in the lead up to it.


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    #2518
    batgoat
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    SoundsRight wrote: »
    We are the most tolerant country in the world. It's embarrassing how people are twisting this 'assault' into something it's not. Why didn't she call the gardai, instead of taking a video? Would be interesting to see what happened in the lead up to it.

    It is being investigated by the Gardai, fact that they pulled off her Hijab would tend to reinforce the probability that it was a hate crime. So you'd genuinely benefit from having a bit of cop on.


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    #2519
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,100 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    SoundsRight wrote: »
    And when two white European girls go walking round a Muslim country, they are treated with such respect.

    https://news.sky.com/story/fifteen-men-charged-over-beheadings-of-female-hikers-in-morocco-11595382


    So because two women were murdered by muslims in another country, its ok to drag the hijabs off random muslim women and humiliate them......


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    #2520
    Franz Von Peppercorn II
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    I doubt if these scrotes were readers of Gemma’s blogs or feed.

    Not that I wouldn’t welcome hate crime legislation in these kind of cases.


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    #2521
    Annasopra
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    SoundsRight wrote: »
    We are the most tolerant country in the world.

    You appear to be stuck on repeat. Whats your basis for this statement? Are you suggesting this incident in Dundrum is fake?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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