Werewolf: Friends

Conor WW

Angus WW wrote: »

Righteo took that up wrong! So what does that mean? Someone else shot Katie and Jake had to reveal his identity as a result of Katie picking him. That would still lead me to believe the Eddie chaos was giving the wolves a bullet. I can’t imagine Chandler shooting Katie like that last night. That would mean Chandler has one more bullet left.

Unless the bullet was a result of Eddie finding Mindy, did one of them have a gun and the other a bullet? Then that leaves the question of what was the chaos?

Has anyone looked at Derry’s interactions? And Isla did you do an updated table with Gabriel in it? Don’t want to steal your thunder again

I did a post earlier with all of Derry's posts in it and mentioned (but didn't quote, it was long enough already) the interactions he'd had.

Gertrude WW

Isla WW wrote: »

This could be an SK power. The wolves have powers but the SK doesn't have any outlined in the OP. Perhaps they get seer checks, or different powers throughout the game.

Maybe.

Just thinking there, I got my first gift on Monday morning at 9am. If Wolves had their first mindy peek and won then the Monday morning kill was them. Also means we might be able to find mindy by going through earlier posts siving out whose dead. When chandler comes out after he’s used his last bullet he can clear that up.

Oh and by the way wolves, I bluffed last night, I didn’t have my power until after this mornings munch! That’s why I found Holly’s efforts to get me to talk about my gift so dodgy. It felt like fishing.

Soz wolves, but not really

Isla WW

My prime candidate for Mindy currently.

Ewan WW wrote: »

Whenever I hear the name Mindy I think of Mork.

Ewan WW wrote: »

Ewan WW wrote: »

Whenever I hear the name Mindy I think of Mork.

Ewan WW wrote: »

You trying to Convert Somone? E-a.m-o?


Also, what made him lovely?

Ewan WW wrote: »

Must be a vig in play. If Barry had met Mindy wouldnt there be some announcement about a change or conversion talking place?

Ewan WW wrote: »

Conversion gets announcements. I'd rule out Mindy/Barry and think it's either Chandler or Eddie.

Also firmly believe Babs was SK kill, laugh gives it away.

Ewan WW wrote: »

Mindy is interesting. If we kill Barry then Mindy remains on Team village right?This could give us an extra person to fight wolves.

I dont believe Mindy has been converted yet. Pretty sure an announcement would be made.

Orla WW

Conor, these scenarios:

"
1. Steve is Jack Gellar, Gabs is final wolf, all is rosy in our little world.
2. Steve is Jack Gellar, Gabs is not final wolf and wolves have a bullet due to Mindy, they'll probably shoot him.
3. Steve is SK, Gabs is not final wolf and wolves have a bullet due to Mindy, they'll probably shoot him.
4. Steve is SK, Gabs is final wolf, munch count will half tomorrow. Should maybe policy lynch Steve tomorrow to be sure he's on the level.
5. Steve is Mindy, munch count stays the same tomorrow, again, maybe policy lynch Steve tomorrow."

Scenario 3 and 4: If Steve is SK, he can't know whether Mindy is converted and so whether wolves might have an extra bullet. Even if he thinks that Mindy is converted but that Mindy shot Katie, it's all a guess and he's risking bringing himself into the spotlight to take down a wolf with a while left to go.
Scenario 5 - I just can't see Steve bussing Gabs at this stage in order to get a clear that's far from 100%

After that, i'm leaning more towards Steve being village...

Gertrude WW

Isla WW wrote: »

My prime candidate for Mindy currently.

Hmm, interesting, it’s like you are already in my BR and my mind, read:

Gertrude WW wrote: »

Maybe.

Just thinking there, I got my first gift on Monday morning at 9am. If Wolves had their first mindy peek and won then the Monday morning kill was them. Also means we might be able to find mindy by going through earlier posts siving out whose dead. When chandler comes out after he’s used his last bullet he can clear that up.

Only chandler will be able to confirm which shot he didn’t take.

Chandler I’m not suggesting or promoting you to come out. This is just a theory we are working on, you take your time and do what you have been doing. Maybe have a 9.59 reveal post ready.

Conor WW

Desmond WW wrote: »

Mini Game within the game:
How many times will Fiona WW say the word strange?
Desmond: 17
...

OK. So this might be the most ridiculous thing ever but I'm going there...

Des could be Mindy. Why? Well, I Googled and her full name is pre-wedding is Mindy Hunter. MH. Look at first 2 lines. Then after she marries Barry it's Mindy Hunter-Farber. Which has 17 letters.

I know it's a massive leap but I'm searching for Mindy outside of the obvious 2.

Isla WW

Yeah, to me it looks like they tried to outline it with the Mork and Mindy thing. Then when they weren't converted early a number of times they suggest that Mindy has not yet been converted. That seems to me to be someone trying to get wolves to notice.

Conor WW

Isla WW wrote: »

Yeah, to me it looks like they tried to outline it with the Mork and Mindy thing. Then when they weren't converted early a number of times they suggest that Mindy has not yet been converted. That seems to me to be someone trying to get wolves to notice.

Ok. Yours is more plausible than mine. Much more

I've been clearing Ewan on the basis of Vernon's post but it's only now dawning on me that Aura Reader may not be the exact same mechanic as Seer.

Isla WW

Conor WW wrote: »

OK. So this might be the most ridiculous thing ever but I'm going there...

Des could be Mindy. Why? Well, I Googled and her full name is pre-wedding is Mindy Hunter. MH. Look at first 2 lines. Then after she marries Barry it's Mindy Hunter-Farber. Which has 17 letters.

I know it's a massive leap but I'm searching for Mindy outside of the obvious 2.

I like the out there idea but the gif being from a scene where Mindy's wedding is discussed seems like a slightly more likely idea than the above. And I know the gif thing is wrong.

I can't see how anyone would decipher that. Not saying Desmond isn't Mindy but I think Ewan is a better shout.

Gertrude WW

Isla WW wrote: »

You probably thinking to yourself

Me

If nothing else I’ve picked somebody whose sense of humor I can enjoy. This pleases me immensely..

Conor WW

Phoebe's power allowed her to "read people aura’s and see their true colours." It doesn't make it clear whether this means she will get their full role or if she's just told their alignment. If it was just alignment and the wolves HADN'T found Mindy at that point then Ewan would read as good when Phoebe/Vernon peeked.

Isla WW

Now I'm not convinced about Ewan because of the following

Phoebe Buffay (Aura Reader) – Phoebe has the ability to read people aura’s and see their true colours. She can chose one player each night phase to read.

I would imagine Vernon read Ewan after picking them - unless they weren't allowed. It depends on what they'd be told about the person - i.e. full role or just alignment. If just alignment it fits with my idea that Ewan wasn't converted early and would have read as good at the time, thus making Vernon think they were good.

Isla WW

Conor WW wrote: »

Phoebe's power allowed her to "read people aura’s and see their true colours." It doesn't make it clear whether this means she will get their full role or if she's just told their alignment. If it was just alignment and the wolves HADN'T found Mindy at that point then Ewan would read as good when Phoebe/Vernon peeked.

Conor WW

The reason I'd be averse to lynching Ewan tonight is that he is on the 'semi-cleared' list along with Steve.

Gertrude is the only other fully clear. If we have 2 evils remaining, and both Ewan and Steve ARE good, or even one of them is, the logical play for them is to go for Gertrude and one of those 2.

Isla WW

Conor WW wrote: »

The reason I'd be averse to lynching Ewan tonight is that he is on the 'semi-cleared' list along with Steve.

Gertrude is the only other fully clear. If we have 2 evils remaining, and both Ewan and Steve ARE good, or even one of them is, the logical play for them is to go for Gertrude and one of those 2.

I think Ewan is Mindy so he won't be eating himself, and it's not in the SK's interest to reduce the kill rate so they won't go after Ewan either. Ewan will probably have to be lynched at this stage. If he's a possible lynch candidate at any stage then he won't be munched/killed. Much like I'm unlikely to be munched/killed - partially because I may well be lynched tonight but if I'm not I'm likely to be lynched again. SK doesn't know if I'm mindy and Mindy doesn't know if I'm SK but neither will want me dead if they think I could be the other as the reduction in the kill rate wouldn't be great for them.

Holly WW

Lock Clear :pac::pac::pac:
Gertrude

Semi Clear
Steve
Ewan

Remainders
Abigail
Angus
Conor
Desmond
Eva
Holly
Isla
Orla
Phil

Desmond WW

Conor WW wrote: »

OK. So this might be the most ridiculous thing ever but I'm going there...

Des could be Mindy. Why? Well, I Googled and her full name is pre-wedding is Mindy Hunter. MH. Look at first 2 lines. Then after she marries Barry it's Mindy Hunter-Farber. Which has 17 letters.

I know it's a massive leap but I'm searching for Mindy outside of the obvious 2.

That’s mad stuff altogether ted.

I’ve already outed myself as NRV Pete Becker as Holly wanted to know earlier.

Holly WW

Holly WW wrote: »

Name | Status | Notes
Abigail| Alive | Claimed Dead Duck - no posts since
Angus| Alive | Seemed very pockety last night
Conor | Alive |
Desmond| Alive |
Eva | Alive | People Suspect Mind Control
Ewan |Alive |
Gertrude | Alive | Claimed Rachel - No Counter
Holly | Alive |
Isla | Alive | Knows Wagonomics
Orla| Alive |
Phil| Alive | Received a Gift Message - only one to defend jake, based on walkie talkie shenanigans
Steve | Alive | Claimed Jack Gellar - Inquisitor


||
Wendy - NRV| Dead (SK & Wolves) |
Barbara - NRV - Duck | Dead (Shot) |
Tegan - NRV | Dead (Lynch) |
Fiona - Joey (Hero) | Dead (Shot) |
Henry - Bobby | Dead |
Vernon - Phoebe (Aura Seer) | Dead (Killed) |
Nigel - Ross (Jailer) | Dead (Killed) |
Katie - Paolo (Oracle) | Dead (Shot) |
Jake - Ursula (Imposter) | Dead (Lynched - Thanks Katie) |
Brendan - Monica (Fun Seeker) | Dead (Killed) |
Derry - Barry Faber (Alpha Wolf) | Dead (Lynched) |
Gabriel - Eddie (Shaman Wolf) | Dead (Shot) |
||
Liam - Mr. Heckles (NRV) | Dead (ModKilled) |

Just reading back over my tables...

Can anyone confirm what i've got above RE: Shots... There are four there, which would mean Chandler is out, and Mindy has used hers. Unless there was a gift of a bullet.

Orla WW

Wendy and Babs are other way around.
Fiona shot by Henry (fun bobby)
3 shots remain in table

Holly WW

Orla WW wrote: »

Wendy and Babs are other way around.
Fiona shot by Henry (fun bobby)
3 shots remain in table

I feel like we've probably discussed this already, but my mind can't find it in my memories, but how did bobby shoot someone?

Conor WW

Isla WW wrote: »

I think Ewan is Mindy so he won't be eating himself, and it's not in the SK's interest to reduce the kill rate so they won't go after Ewan either. Ewan will probably have to be lynched at this stage. If he's a possible lynch candidate at any stage then he won't be munched/killed. Much like I'm unlikely to be munched/killed - partially because I may well be lynched tonight but if I'm not I'm likely to be lynched again. SK doesn't know if I'm mindy and Mindy doesn't know if I'm SK but neither will want me dead if they think I could be the other as the reduction in the kill rate wouldn't be great for them.

Ok. That's reasoning I can get behind. I want to think about it a bit but it is logical and I like logic.

Of course if Mindy is embedded in the heart of the friendly village then we're in trouble.

I'd like to look at the timing of the posts Ewan made vs the post Vernon made. Crazy busy as I forgot I'd invited pals over for dinner but hopefully will get to it.

Holly WW

Holly WW wrote: »

I feel like we've probably discussed this already, but my mind can't find it in my memories, but how did bobby shoot someone?

I remember, it was brendo as monica right? ok, so there are 5 bullets to account for. 4 of which have been used. so there is Definitely 1 bullet left as mindy hasn't come clean so she's gotta be converted.

Whether it's chandler's bullet or mindy's we don't know

Holly WW

Holly WW wrote: »

I remember, it was brendo as monica right? ok, so there are 5 bullets to account for. 4 of which have been used. so there is Definitely 1 bullet left as mindy hasn't come clean so she's gotta be converted.

Whether it's chandler's bullet or mindy's we don't know

To clarify, brendo found bobby and gave him the gift of the bullet, said it was between two people and they went fifi

Angus WW

Didn’t want to quote the whole lot of second post but can’t edit it on mobile. So Derry said he thought we should flip Gabriel. Have to see if Gabriel was in danger at that point so it was him safeguarding himself for if Gabriel flipped first. Makes me question everyone though with how natural that came across :eek:

First one Derry was looking into Isla and Katie for being last on Tegan. We know Katie is good so was this a case of him trying to shade two villagers or again safeguarding himself in case Isla flips?

Derry WW wrote: »

I'll try.

so they are in relation to this.
|Lynch Results Day 1|
|Tegan WW | Gabriel, Henry, Abigail, Nigel, Isla, Katie|
|Gabriel WW | Eva, Tegan, Steve, Angus, Holly|
|Holly WW | Jake, Fiona|
|Nigel WW | Derry, Phil|
|Katie WW | Desmond, Orla|
|Fiona WW | Brendan, Vernon|
|Abigail WW | Conor|
|Steve WW | Ewan|
|Did not vote | Liam |

specifically this line.
Tegan WW # Gabriel, Henry, Abigail, Nigel, Isla, Katie

A) katie was last onto tegan. isla voted late but katie even later. it doesnt make you a wolf but don't look great if gabs flips red.

b) both isla and katie voted real late on tegam, isla reading both as good, so its only to be used if gabs flips red.

nope, dont see the contradiction. if gabs flips bad, isla was a late voter on the counter wagon. she is just stating that because katie voted after her, it looks worse for katie.

Derry WW wrote: »

What we know.

Lynch Votes|

Tegan WW | Gabriel, Henry, Abigail, Nigel, Isla, Katie
Gabriel WW | Eva, Tegan, Steve, Angus, Holly
Holly WW | Jake, Fiona
Nigel WW| Derry, Phil
Katie WW | Desmond, Orla
Fiona WW | Brendan, Vernon
Abigail WW | Conor
Steve WW | Ewan
Eva WW | Gertrude
Did not vote | Liam

I think vernon breadcrumbed ewan as peeked clean.
I believe gertie and brendan.
so.
Lynch Votes|

Tegan WW | Gabriel, Henry, Abigail, Nigel, Isla, Katie
Gabriel WW | Eva, Tegan, Steve, Angus, Holly
Holly WW | Jake, Fiona
Nigel WW| Derry, Phil
Katie WW | Desmond, Orla
Fiona WW | Brendan, Vernon
Abigail WW | Conor
Steve WW | Ewan
Eva WW | Gertrude
Did not vote | Liam

jake voting holly when in danger screams wolf v villager.

Lynch Votes|
Tegan WW | Gabriel, Henry, Abigail, Nigel, Isla, Katie
Gabriel WW | Eva, Tegan, Steve, Angus, Holly
Holly WW | Jake, Fiona
Nigel WW| Derry, Phil
Katie WW | Desmond, Orla
Fiona WW | Brendan, Vernon
Abigail WW | Conor
Steve WW | Ewan
Eva WW | Gertrude
Did not vote | Liam

going to shif all these colours onto n2 lynch

Lynch Results|

Jake WW | Angus, Eva, Conor, Gabriel, Steve, Isla, Holly, Ewan, Gertrude, Brendan, Derry, Orla
Abigail WW | Phil, Jake
Isla WW | Desmond

Did not vote | Abigail & Liam

is jake bussing abi?
why didn't abi vote?
when was there last post?

did abi seem like a villager that gave up or a wolf that gave up?

abi, if you are a villager, please post tomorrow.

orla made this read that i'm unsure of
Abigail - I just don't see a wolf team member missing a lynch PLUS going off the deep end with the role claim

villagers usually fight their ground. a caught wolf gives up.
okay, i just went to find abi last post
#1206 24-06-2019, 21:20

Think we might need to flip gabs, to make sense of two top wagons.
There is two different stratagies to follow depending how they flip.

if top two wagons are green, then maybe one wolf on each top wagon and sk possibly too.

if gabs flips wolf, then maybe wolves tried to save them.

if gabs flips sk, then maybe wolves were spread out.



summary, need to hear from abi tomorrow, may vig shoot gabs to sort the wagons. I'll run the numbers now.

D1 N1 D2 N2
Start/Check 25 23 22 18 15
RV 6 6 6 3 3
NRV 14 12 11 10 8
Convert 1 1 1 1 1
RW 3 3 3 3 2
SK 1 1 1 1 1

Dead 2 1 4 3

Total Remain 25 23 22 18 15


15, does that include liam modkill?

1Abigail WW
2Angus WW
3Brendan WW
4Conor WW
5Derry WW
6Desmond WW
7Eva WW
8Ewan WW
9Gabriel WW
10Gertrude WW
11Holly WW
12Isla WW
13Orla WW
14Phil WW
15Steve WW

yes, 15

15 worst case scenario
11 v 3 v 1 (mindy convert included)

2 mislynches

5 v 3 v 1

frendly fire
4 v 3 v 1

even with a friendly fire, we still have at least two mislynches left.

gabs has claimed nrv, and vig can't shoot themselves, so it a low risk shot.
only unclaimed rv left is vig.

Holly WW

Quote: jake voting holly when in danger screams wolf v villager.

Holly WW

Looks like Derry really didn't like his wolf buddies hahaha

Holly WW

Guys can we get FFA's and vote declarations in as early as possible so we have time to discuss before the potential madness.

The earlier we know where the votes lie, the more time a potential wolf or SK has to either sit back or try get us off them.

Orla WW

Per Hollibob's request:

Most Wolfy/SK

Ewan - The One Where I Did An ISO Wolfy Lean And Haven't Taken Note Of Anything Since. But then other people did a Lot Of Work on pushing him to be Mindy so I stole that work.
Isla - The One Where I Think Someone Knows More Than They're Posting (see ISO earlier today) However, I've been SLIGHTLY swayed by today's work on where's wally and have moved her down slightly.
Steve - The One Where The Role Reveal Could Have Been A Last Gift From Eddie... Could You Be SK Steve?
Angus - The One Where Someone Was Just Too Nice To Be Nice (see mini ISO earlier today)
Holly - The One Where Someone Was Too Keen to Have The Village Reveal (my mini-ISO on Holly yesterday leaned good so I'm not too sure here)
Conor - The One Where I've not Had A Chance to Look at Someone So They Live Comfortably In The Middle Of The Pack
Eva - The One Where Someone Was So Crazy She Turned Sane (she has her own brand of logic, but she sticks too it - see earlier ISO)
Phil - The One Where Someone Was So Pocketed To Be Wolfy (I believe Phil in the Phil v Jake saga... for now)
Abigail - The One Where Someone Was Too Crazy To Be Wolfy (see my comment re. missing vote plus calling herself duck, plus Derry didn't agree with that read)
Gertrude - The One Where Someone Had Iconic Hair (claimed Rachael)
Me - Like, could I BE any more village (that is not me claiming Chandler you crazy cats)

Most village

#FFA3
Ewan
Isla
Steve

I'll be out after 8pm tonight so if we could bring forward the utter madness that is pre-lynch posting, that would be great.

Holly WW

Isla WW

#FFA3

Only one person for the moment - Ewan. They're Mindy.

Vote in for Ewan aka Mindy.