Hay

BENDYBINN

2smiggy wrote: »

be more about €20 off the field here with the volume of hay made around the place !!

Anyone sellin hay for €20 are barely breaking even...better of storin it ..

Buford T. Justice XIX

_Brian wrote: »

Super.

Yeah and it's good hay, saved without rain. The field is about 6 miles away so he needed a bit with the going rate so happy out with it.

It should do me for a good few years, weather permitting.

squinn2912

Taking it in on loads of about 40. Christ it’s a tough job fir two but 1 would be a rotten mission

_blaaz

Say my name wrote: »

Probably ammonium/nitrogen, some carbon, washed off bacteria, and maybe some other nutrients too.

Poor (rained out) hay is ammonium treated in various parts of the world to increase it's feeding value.

Father told me in olden times,they used add salt to the cocks/reeks (idk difference) to sweeten hay that had got rain

80sDiesel

Curious, what happens to hay that can't be sold, given away or stored. Or is it the case that there is always someone who will take it.

Bass Reeves

BENDYBINN wrote: »

Anyone sellin hay for €20 are barely breaking even...better of storin it ..

Yes if you can store and sell some other time all very well. Other than that the Market is the market. just like in late March of a bad winter you will get 50/bale

80sDiesel wrote: »

Curious, what happens to hay that can't be sold, given away or stored. Or is it the case that there is always someone who will take it.

I have seen it dumped into the side of hedges and ditches. Large square bales can be reeked in a field or yard quite sucessfully. Round are trickier to reek. It can be done but you must fill the holes or if reeked standing on end build some sort of cap and cover with plastic

wrangler

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Yes if you can store and sell some other time all very well. Other than that the Market is the market. just like in late March of a bad winter you will get 50/bale



I have seen it dumped into the side of hedges and ditches. Large square bales can be reeked in a field or yard quite sucessfully. Round are trickier to reek. It can be done but you must fill the holes or if reeked standing on end build some sort of cap and cover with plastic

More fodder is made this year than usual too, crops 25%heavier etc, seems to be less cattle out on the land too and more fields in hay.
There's plenty out there too that hadn't the slightest intention of storing it as well.

2smiggy

Finished all of it, agreed a price to see all of it off the field. They started drawing today, and have 150 bales gone already. We have room to store the volume we made. A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the Bush and all that!!

80sDiesel

"Large square bales can be reeked in a field or yard quite sucessfully. Round are trickier to reek. "

What does reeking mean?

Odelay

80sDiesel wrote: »

"Large square bales can be reeked in a field or yard quite sucessfully. Round are trickier to reek. "

What does reeking mean?

Stacking outside with a plastic cover over it.

cute geoge

Reeking round bales if you stack the rounds 3 on the ground 2 in the second row and 1 on top then trow a bit of plastic over like this
https://www.donedeal.ie/farmproduce-for-sale/tarpaulin-covers-for-bales-straw-turf-wood/19284039

Bass Reeves

cute geoge wrote: »

Reeking round bales if you stack the rounds 3 on the ground 2 in the second row and 1 on top then trow a bit of plastic over like this
https://www.donedeal.ie/farmproduce-for-sale/tarpaulin-covers-for-bales-straw-turf-wood/19284039

They take up a large area. 100 round bales reeked like that would be an area 13'X70'. What would really catch you is trying to keep them off the ground. With the majority of the bales sitting on the ground you would loose a bit of hay unless you keep them off the ground. Pallets would be the best option at one pallet/bale you would need 50 of them

kk.man

Hay and hayledge all done!
Baled hay in usual meadow fields and hayledge in fresher ground. Hay is like corn really it comes in quicker on older ground despite the same down time.

50HX

cute geoge wrote: »

Reeking round bales if you stack the rounds 3 on the ground 2 in the second row and 1 on top then trow a bit of plastic over like this
https://www.donedeal.ie/farmproduce-for-sale/tarpaulin-covers-for-bales-straw-turf-wood/19284039

Would they not sweat/heat like mad under the plastic

cute geoge

I made a reek with the bales sitting on their end stacked 3 high and 3 wide one year .I put small sheets of ply over the spaces between the bales and a sheet of plastic on top weighed down with sand bags and strapped down as well.This was done in late October before the 1st storm carried the plastic down the field.I spent another hard day pulling the plastic up on it again and of course it was the winter we had a storm every week ,i ended up feeding all hay to the cattle for the months of November and December,nice bit of waste as well as the wet would soak down trough the bales.In matter of fact my neighbour who left his hay bales stacked along the ditch had less waste with only about 3/4 inches of the outside layer being damaged in his bales!!!

gozunda

kk.man wrote: »

Hay and hayledge all done!
Baled hay in usual meadow fields and hayledge in fresher ground. Hay is like corn really it comes in quicker on older ground despite the same down time.

Same here. Last bit done today. Couple of old paddocks, made beautiful hay - even better than last years I reckon ..

Tileman

gozunda wrote: »

Same here. Last bit done today. Couple of old paddocks, made beautiful hay - even better than last years I reckon ..

All baked up and wrapped as well. It was very close to being in hay but away with work next week and couldn’t be arsed looking at it over next few days and threat of rain so said id wrap. At least I can sell over winter rather than looking at grass growing up around it. All stacked now in field beside gate. Do you need to put paint x on bales to keep crows away?

Muckit

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Whats the going rate to bale small bales?

Asked a lad lately what he is charging. 70cent. I think that the lower end of things.

Box09

Muckit wrote:

Asked a lad lately what he is charging. 70cent. I think that the lower end of things.

50 cent going rate near me

Sami23

Box09 wrote: »

50 cent going rate near me

Same here

cute geoge

What is the going rate for round bales of hay

Sami23

cute geoge wrote: »

What is the going rate for round bales of hay

5 euro

Water John

Wrapped yesterday rather than leaving to go to hay. Wrapping is a cost but easier storage. Ground that only had 60 bales last year had 110 this year.
Finished at 12 o'clock last night with bales stacked two high on slab.
Will have wholecrop oats in a few weeks. What price per bale will that be worth?

Donald Trump

_blaaz wrote: »

Father told me in olden times,they used add salt to the cocks/reeks (idk difference) to sweeten hay that had got rain

Well you'd gather it into the cocks in the field then draw them in and consolidate and build them into ricks in the yard.


If you don't have too much hay, yet you want give the impression to the ladies that you have a decent bit of land when you are out chatting them up, they generally prefer to hear that you describe that you have one massive cock rather than having a small rick..........

Track9

Baled up 1000 + bales yesterday ( in S West )
Put 500 in shed last evening & today stood the other 500 ( Yup they were the small squares )
& will sell that 500 off the field.
Great breeze this evening , will season the small squares over the wknd.
The best lad yestersday evening on the loading was 15yrs old & he had the least to say .
Theres lot good ladfs comming up these days.

Genghis Cant

Track9 wrote: »

Baled up 1000 + bales yesterday ( in S West )
Put 500 in shed last evening

Any heat in them today?
I don't think I ever baled square bales an put them straight in the shed.
We'd always leave them out a week or two.

Hard Knocks

Genghis Cant wrote: »

Any heat in them today?
I don't think I ever baled square bales an put them straight in the shed.
We'd always leave them out a week or two.

Often done it & had no issues
Just don’t have them over tight

Muckit

Track9 wrote: »

The best lad yestersday evening on the loading was 15yrs old & he had the least to say .
Theres lot good ladfs comming up these days.

Was he on the trailer? Some lad if he forking them up.
You are right. The youth are often all painted with the one brush. All stuck in phones. All lazy.
But sone of the most progressive farmers with hunger in their bellies around here are in their teens/early twenties.

_Brian

Cheap hay.

2smiggy

BENDYBINN wrote: »

Anyone sellin hay for €20 are barely breaking even...better of storin it ..

Ended up with 1300 bales, storage is not an option. Market dictates the price. Cut, tedded, and rowed ourselves, baled 900 ourselves. Last year would have been 25 a bale. Only dealing with 2 people who load themselves, and never had a bother with quick payment. 300 bales gone since Friday evening.

dmcsweeney

Got mine finished Saturday, great crop. The (square) baler broke down Friday evening, which I was very glad of considering we were short handed. The best move I've ever made is to stop using the bale trailer. We used an Ifor Williams behind the tractor. Could get 18 bales on the floor, but more importantly, because it's so low, no one on the trailer. Started off with two of us, the wife driving and me loading/unloading but thank God got the father and brother in law in the shed after two loads. I was convinced the bales were damp by the end, they god very heavy after handling a few hundred! I was luck that I left the last field standing as I'd have struggled to find space for it. Think I'll bale it and sell it off the field if I get the weather.

Keepgrowing

Track9 wrote: »

Baled up 1000 + bales yesterday ( in S West )
Put 500 in shed last evening & today stood the other 500 ( Yup they were the small squares )
& will sell that 500 off the field.
Great breeze this evening , will season the small squares over the wknd.
The best lad yestersday evening on the loading was 15yrs old & he had the least to say .
Theres lot good ladfs comming up these days.

Have to agree, some great chaps on the way. Loads of 14-17 year olds boys and girls looking for relief milking and summer work. Great to see.

Picking stones off reseeds last Thursday I brought my lads and 3 of their buddies, head down ass up all day and not a word out of them. Was a very warm day and they worked solid from 8am till 5.30.

Only thing was they were still full of craic by evening whereas us adults were bollixed

Timmaay

Agreed fully KG, unlimited number of older teens out there looking for summer work, and well able to learn fast and apply themselves properly once you show them. If you as a farmer cannot find labour during the summer holidays it more reflects on yourown mindset and ability as a boss.

I see the other end of it as a coach in the local club, always a big rush among all the teens in the early summer to get a job anywhere because they know there is like one job for every 5 kids out there. One 17yr old lad I got talking to did himself up business cards offering to do gardening work and odd jobs, and stuck them in letterboxes of about 20houses up and down his road, he was telling me he was getting a consistant 30 or 40hrs a week work at 10e/hr cash, and word of mouth spreading around nicely about him ha.

Keepgrowing

Timmaay wrote: »

Agreed fully KG, unlimited number of older teens out there looking for summer work, and well able to learn fast and apply themselves properly once you show them. If you as a farmer cannot find labour during the summer holidays it more reflects on yourown mindset and ability as a boss.

I see the other end of it as a coach in the local club, always a big rush among all the teens in the early summer to get a job anywhere because they know there is like one job for every 5 kids out there. One 17yr old lad I got talking to did himself up business cards offering to do gardening work and odd jobs, and stuck them in letterboxes of about 20houses up and down his road, he was telling me he was getting a consistant 30 or 40hrs a week work at 10e/hr cash, and word of mouth spreading around nicely about him ha.

Very good, my eldest did that in 6th class. Got loads of lawn mowing and garden tidy up jobs. He’s graduated to weekend milking roster and tractor driving so has passed work on to his next brother
Edit: business may not survive I fear, not the same drive

Track9

Muckit wrote: »

Was he on the trailer? Some lad if he forking them up.
You are right. The youth are often all painted with the one brush. All stuck in phones. All lazy.
But sone of the most progressive farmers with hunger in their bellies around here are in their teens/early twenties.

==================================

You are right on , the lad was up on the load stowing the bales .
Noticed the lad did a quick look at phone lunchtime & then put his phone away
I wouldnt have any lad of 15 lifting hay bales .
The lad ( not related to me ) liked being busy & struck me as not money mad .
The grown ups were using energy into the ( who is the boss , routine )

There is promise in a lot of young people comming through .
More hay baling tomo.Still thankful no rain in South of the Country .

patsy_mccabe

Good idea with the pallets but still, someone making work for themselves.

https://www.donedeal.ie/farmproduce-for-sale/hay-for-sale-round-and-square-bales/22349884

Odelay

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Good idea with the pallets but still, someone making work for themselves.

https://www.donedeal.ie/farmproduce-for-sale/hay-for-sale-round-and-square-bales/22349884

The way I remember the ground around Crossmolina it would be no harm to stop them sinking!

Say my name

This'll bring back fond memories for the mods.


https://twitter.com/actonscottfarm/status/1148307015179165696?s=20

Albert Johnson

Odelay wrote: »

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Good idea with the pallets but still, someone making work for themselves.

https://www.donedeal.ie/farmproduce-for-sale/hay-for-sale-round-and-square-bales/22349884

The way I remember the ground around Crossmolina it would be no harm to stop them sinking!

Vets on call showcased a lot of the poorer land back in it's day, the OH comes from just outside Ballina so I'd have an idea of that part of the world. There's some great land between Ballina and Crossmolina although it's more on the Ballina side. The land in the add seems good enough and if the hay is nice quality it's not overly expensive imo. Once you cross the Shannon haulage costs start to erode any value in "cheap" southern hay, a local haulier is quoting €12 a bale to cart hay at the moment.

Water John

With the weather we've had and the weather to come tomorrow, I saw a fella mowing today in the rain!!!

Reggie.

Water John wrote: »

With the weather we've had and the weather to come tomorrow, I saw a fella mowing today in the rain!!!

Nothing is impossible nowadays

Panch18

Water John wrote: »

With the weather we've had and the weather to come tomorrow, I saw a fella mowing today in the rain!!!

Pure insanity

Thing is if its mowed wet it stays wet, you'll never dry it. you have some hope if mowed dry

Panch18

Reggie. wrote: »

Nothing is impossible nowadays

When you going to post some more pictures of the Dini in action??!!

Reggie.

Panch18 wrote: »

When you going to post some more pictures of the Dini in action??!!

Already done so on Twitter. She's well broken in now

whelan2

Reggie. wrote: »

Already done so on Twitter. She's well broken in now

Not everyone is on Twitter ya know

Reggie.

whelan2 wrote: »

Not everyone is on Twitter ya know

Your loss :P

Bass Reeves

Panch18 wrote: »

Pure insanity

Thing is if its mowed wet it stays wet, you'll never dry it. you have some hope if mowed dry

He may have started to mow it and just finished it off. It would also depend on what type of meadow he mowed. If it was stuff closed since it would be a lot heavier than a crop closed late April. As well ground is very dry and if it is a short growing crop it will be much lighter and no heavy butt to hold the moisture.

Panch18

Reggie. wrote: »

Your loss :P

come on Reggie - throw some up here for us

Some of us are too old for twitter

_blaaz

Albert Johnson wrote: »

Vets on call showcased a lot of the poorer land back in it's day, the OH comes from just outside Ballina so I'd have an idea of that part of the world. There's some great land between Ballina and Crossmolina although it's more on the Ballina side. The land in the add seems good enough and if the hay is nice quality it's not overly expensive imo. Once you cross the Shannon haulage costs start to erode any value in "cheap" southern hay, a local haulier is quoting €12 a bale to cart hay at the moment.

Why dont lads just get it transported via CIE.?

gozunda

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Good idea with the pallets but still, someone making work for themselves.

https://www.donedeal.ie/farmproduce-for-sale/hay-for-sale-round-and-square-bales/22349884

Anyone here remember Straddle stones being used for cocks of hay??

Pre runners of pallets - kept the hay dry and off the ground and rats out

These ones is in Bunratty afaik (reckon hay has gone a bit mouldy underneath the thatch tbh )