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charolais0153

Interesting how 3 utd keepers picked, really shows that sad could pick good goalie! Really interesting thread to observe

Morzadec

All time English league draft

Dozyart wrote: »

Lads i missed one pick,every other pick was within 12 hours.,should have made this a 1 day thing because the waiting is killing some of you....I cant guarantee ill be on within 5 mins of the last pick,if anyone else wants in then i'll happily stand aside

Yeah sorry I missed the fact there was a pick this morning and I thought we were still waiting for you from yesterday evening, so I thought we were coming on to about 20 hours which is why I suggested lining up the replacement

jayo26

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Morzadec wrote: »

Yeah sorry I missed the fact there was a pick this morning and I thought we were still waiting for you from yesterday evening, so I thought we were coming on to about 20 hours which is why I suggested lining up the replacement

Never mind your apologies go get picking :P

Morzadec

All time English league draft

jayo26 wrote: »

Never mind your apologies go get picking :P

Doing the write up as we speak, just double checking he hasn't been picked because, yet again, we have another player where it's an ABSOLUTE DISGRACE that he's fallen down this far!

jayo26

All time English league draft

Morzadec wrote: »

Doing the write up as we speak, just double checking he hasn't been picked because, yet again, we have another player where it's an ABSOLUTE DISGRACE that he's fallen down this far!

If it's someone I want your BARRED!!!!

Trigger

All time English league draft

jayo26 wrote: »

I think subs would be cool and maybe 24 hours where we could trade players if someone you missed out on and someone wants one of yours prob get too confusing haha.

This isnt FUT :pac:

SlickRic

Suarez and Tevez on the same team.

Christ!

redzerdrog

All time English league draft

I thought there was a good chance he would make it another round or two

martyos121

All time European cup competitions draft

The paranoia is setting in now.

Thought of a great player to fit my system, but not one deserving of a pick until the later rounds, and now I’m terrified someone will steal him off me and ruin the master plan. Also, picking him too soon might reveal my formation and tactics.

If I take him in the next round or two, I’ll be missing out on some top class players still on my shortlist, but if I wait too long, someone else might steal him and I’m left with no suitable alternative.

It’s a cruel game lads.

Trigger

All time English league draft

martyos121 wrote: »

The paranoia is setting in now.

Thought of a great player to fit my system, but not one deserving of a pick until the later rounds, and now I’m terrified someone will steal him off me and ruin the master plan. Also, picking him too soon might reveal my formation and tactics.

If I take him in the next round or two, I’ll be missing out on some top class players still on my shortlist, but if I wait too long, someone else might steal him and I’m left with no suitable alternative.

It’s a cruel game lads.

The paranoia set in for me after the second round, every single player I was thinking of that would suit my setup was taken. Another one just gone in Dembele

redzerdrog

All time English league draft

Carra and carvalho a very well balanced partnership

Had dembele earmarked as a potential round 9 pick

correction

Current Premier League Draft

Haven't picked a defender yet and really should with my next pick but there's someone left on the board that quite surprises me so may have to take him if he drops to me.

SlickRic

Dembele was vital for balance for me.

Personally I think I may have taken him a round early, but I didn't want to take the risk.

martyos121

All time European cup competitions draft

SlickRic wrote: »

Dembele was vital for balance for me.

Personally I think I may have taken him a round early, but I didn't want to take the risk.

Perfect timing I’d say, I had him in mind myself and I doubt I’m the only one. Great pick.

martyos121

All time European cup competitions draft

Table after round 5:

lassykk

Loving the suarez and tevez partnership... That's two that would give any defence nightmares

SlickRic

Sanchez didn't even occur to me.

Smashing pick.

redzerdrog

All time English league draft

Surprised how long Ballack had in the premier league. I had it in my head that he was only with Chelsea for a short time.

Liam O

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redzerdrog wrote: »

Surprised how long Ballack had in the premier league. I had it in my head that he was only with Chelsea for a short time.

I was considering him alright. Probably slightly past his best but definitely very good in his time. Definitely outperformed certain other signings Chelsea made during that time.

redzerdrog

All time English league draft

Definitely wasn't peak Ballack that played in premier league but still a very good player at the time

IncognitoMan

Current Premier League Draft

Think he was 29 when he joined, his peak overall was probably just before but he still had loads to give. Chelsea where a bit all over the place manager wise for most of his time but he was a class act. Probably got better the longer he was there as well.

He's the sort of midfielder who can do it all which is rare enough at this stage of the draft.

The 2008 Man Utd side almost had that season ruined by Chelsea who kept up right to the end in both competitions and Ballack was key to that especially their win over United late on in the season.

He also was a key player in Anchlotti double winners in 2010.

He wouldn't have been a good pick in an earlier round but at this stage with the midfielders on the board still I'm happy enough to take him.

There's one midfielder who has a great career longevity wise who I wouldn't put near him in terms of actual ability.

Also feel like I've longevity in spades in my side.

martyos121

All time European cup competitions draft

I'll post my pick as soon as I can, busy at the moment but I got the PM and haven't forgotten in case anyone thinks I have.

SlickRic

Ballack is a good pick for this stage of the draft.

in the right system, he will be a lovely one to have. there is no doubt he was productive at Chelsea, while not being the Bayern and Leverkusen version of himself.

charolais0153

Think it's a bit early for Erik's on,
Baines is a solid pick

Ferris_Bueller

Current Premier League Draft

I was probably going to select Eriksen in one my my next two picks so he definitely would not have made it back to Trigger, IMO he is a better pick than Ballack (based on his PL years), although two very different players.

Morzadec

All time English league draft

Eriksen is the most consistent assister over the last 5 years or so. That's a decent chunk of time.

Baines I think is a good pick, got into some teams of the season at a time when Evra and A.Cole were playing.

SlickRic

with the likes of Eriksen and Ballack, you're splitting hairs as to which is the better pick in players versus player.

a lot has to be about the system they're implemented in.

SlickRic

Coutinho is a solid pick. I considered him, but he doesn't suit the way I want the team to play.

redzerdrog

All time English league draft

Hopefully we get through the remaining 5 picks up to me tonight because will have her little internet access for tomorrow

IncognitoMan

Current Premier League Draft

redzerdrog wrote: »

Hopefully we get through the remaining 5 picks up to me tonight because will have her little internet access for tomorrow

You could pm a couple of picks to someone who isn't in the draft that could put up your pick for you?

redzerdrog

All time English league draft

IncognitoMan wrote: »

You could pm a couple of picks to someone who isn't in the draft that could put up your pick for you?

Yeh will work something out depending on how many picks away I am. But priority can change depending on the players picked before me.

I know exactly who I want now but if one of those gets picked by someone then plans change

lassykk

redzerdrog wrote: »

Yeh will work something out depending on how many picks away I am. But priority can change depending on the players picked before me.

I know exactly who I want now but if one of those gets picked by someone then plans change

I'll be online tomorrow and tonight if you want to do that. Happy to send you details of other picks via text message too

redzerdrog

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lassykk wrote: »

I'll be online tomorrow and tonight if you want to do that. Happy to send you details of other picks via text message too

Cheers but should be on and off throughout the day

redzerdrog

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First time in a draft there is potential for a player to be sent off for assaulting their own player

jayo26

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redzerdrog wrote: »

First time in a draft there is potential for a player to be sent off for assaulting their own player

Haha

Trigger

All time English league draft

Just putting it out there, Azpi was shoite against Bohs last night so my decision is going to be affected by that when it comes to voting

:pac:

Liam O

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Trigger wrote: »

Just putting it out there, Azpi was shoite against Bohs last night so my decision is going to be affected by that when it comes to voting

:pac:

His peak was a few years back man

He had a bit too much paella this Summer. Normal service will be resumed by game time

SlickRic

Duff was my next pick. But I'd already resigned myself to not getting him this round. I knew the last round was the time if I was desperate for him.

It's all getting very interesting now.

Morzadec

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Was interested to see when Pogba would go, I had him earmarked as a possible pick. Inconsistent but undoubtedly talented. I'm not sure there's many (any?) truly world class centre mids left

bucketybuck

I wondered and doubted if anybody would go with Pogba. I think it is a really risky choice, especially when there are still some really good midfielders available, guys who have actually performed well in the PL.

As a United fan, I think I would look at a team with Pogba there and see that as a mark against.

correction

Current Premier League Draft

SlickRic wrote: »

Duff was my next pick. But I'd already resigned myself to not getting him this round. I knew the last round was the time if I was desperate for him.

It's all getting very interesting now.

I spent a fair amount of time debating going for Duff with my Sanchez pick. Think Duff would've been a great pick for me even then but I just couldn't turn down that match winning ability Alexis had

jayo26

All time English league draft

bucketybuck wrote: »

I wondered and doubted if anybody would go with Pogba. I think it is a really risky choice, especially when there are still some really good midfielders available, guys who have actually performed well in the PL.

As a United fan, I think I would look at a team with Pogba there and see that as a mark against.

Agree I don't understand some of the praise in the thread for players that have been good in average teams and lack of acknowledgement for players that helped achieve great things We shall see how it pans out.

Lucas Hood

Current Premier League Draft

Azpilicueta was my next pick.

Grrr

Lucas Hood

Current Premier League Draft

bucketybuck wrote: »

I wondered and doubted if anybody would go with Pogba. I think it is a really risky choice, especially when there are still some really good midfielders available, guys who have actually performed well in the PL.

As a United fan, I think I would look at a team with Pogba there and see that as a mark against.

You're not a great judge of players in fairness.

You said Pat Jennings was better than Manuel Neuer in one of these before.

Morzadec

All time English league draft

bucketybuck wrote: »

I wondered and doubted if anybody would go with Pogba. I think it is a really risky choice, especially when there are still some really good midfielders available, guys who have actually performed well in the PL.

As a United fan, I think I would look at a team with Pogba there and see that as a mark against.

Yeah I imagined this might be the case and that definitely was giving me pause for thought, but I might well have taken him if available at a later round.

The poster has maybe framed it well saying that he has Keane beside him for discipline, and you could make the argument that peak Pogba is proven in teams with other world class players beside him. But I'm sure opponents might pick on him as a potential weakness

redzerdrog

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I think in the right team and system then Pogba is definitely worth the risk but it's a gamble.

Not sure having him is a team with Keane is the right thing though as Keane was truly a proper CM (in a midfield 2) whereas is you want the best of out Pogba you need to play 3 with a dedicated DM

Sure as hell gona be interesting as teams take shape though

bucketybuck

Lucas Hood wrote: »

You're not a great judge of players in fairness.

You said Pat Jennings was better than Manuel Neuer in one of these before.

What an amazingly classless post.

For the record, I believe this is the thread from 6 years ago that this guy is referring to, if anybody is interested in the context.

Trigger

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Morzadec wrote: »

Yeah I imagined this might be the case and that definitely was giving me pause for thought, but I might well have taken him if available at a later round.

The poster has maybe framed it well saying that he has Keane beside him for discipline, and you could make the argument that peak Pogba is proven in teams with other world class players beside him. But I'm sure opponents might pick on him as a potential weakness

The problem is that Pogba has never done it in the PL for a prolonged period of time, if people are going to judge him on this it should be just on his PL performances and not on what he did for Juve, having Keane beside him would definitely free him up but he had 2or 3 WC midfielders beside him at Juve, not one so depends on the setup. But saying that he has also failed to perform in an attacking sense with 2 workhorses beside him and no focus on defense.

He is undoubtedly talented and It really is a going to be a tough one but will depend entirely on who he comes up against I suppose. If the OP can give a good assessment on why he thinks Pogba will work in his system against the opposition it could sway the votes

Morzadec

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Trigger wrote: »

The problem is that Pogba has never done it in the PL for a prolonged period of time, if people are going to judge him on this it should be just on his PL performances and not on what he did for Juve, having Keane beside him would definitely free him up but he had 2or 3 WC midfielders beside him at Juve, not one so depends on the setup. But saying that he has also failed to perform in an attacking sense with 2 workhorses beside him and no focus on defense.

He is undoubtedly talented and It really is a going to be a tough one but will depend entirely on who he comes up against I suppose. If the OP can give a good assessment on why he thinks Pogba will work in his system against the opposition it could sway the votes

I think you can arguably factor in his performances for France at the world cup in 2018. He was at United at the time. Obviously first and foremost is the PL form but if players are achieving amazing things at international level while they were in their PL peak then it could be factored in a bit.

But yeah good points, and the WC was only a handful of games

Trigger

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Morzadec wrote: »

I think you can arguably factor in his performances for France at the world cup in 2018. He was at United at the time. Obviously first and foremost is the PL form but if players are achieving amazing things at international level while they were in their PL peak then it could be factored in a bit.

But yeah good points, and the WC was only a handful of games

Plus he only had 2/3 good performances for France in the WC, which were toward the end so people seem to forget the stinkers before that