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Father and daughter drown at US border

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Thought so! Textbook libtard a la carte approach to the value of human life! Your type of selective compassion makes me want to vomit.

    No, i see straight it .

    The Faux christian.. Like a Parody.

    Cheers though

    Peadar, is that you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    I can't be the only one who sees the word Libtard and immediately zones out of the rest of the post?

    Same, it's cringe and guarantees low expectations... 😂


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭Nermal


    The inequality of the world becomes rather apparent when you see dead kids wrapped around their dead dad. We can and probably won’t do anything, but it makes me uneasy.

    Just be happy you were born on the right side of that inequality, and make sure you don't lose your advantage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    I can't be the only one who sees the word Libtard and immediately zones out of the rest of the post?

    Its the wolf whistle to the pack.

    Its not actual an opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,819 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    I can't be the only one who sees the word Libtard and immediately zones out of the rest of the post?

    Stfu soy boy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭JohnMc1


    batgoat wrote: »
    No, you're concluding they're not refugees... That doesn't make it so. Corrupt political systems, poverty etc are legitimate reasons to seek asylum. Should Syrians in Ireland have stayed even though it was putting their lives at risk to remain there? We have the right to seek asylum for good reasons.

    The war is over in Syria. They're begging their Men to come back and help rebuild.

    So how many of them are you housing and providing for? You're sure doing alot of virtue signalling, but are you actually practicing what you preach.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,819 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Nermal wrote: »
    Just be happy you were born on the right side of that inequality, and make sure you don't lose your advantage.

    I’m happy but also feel guilty tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    . Like that Syrian boy found dead on the beach. What are we in rich countries supposed to do

    https://www.thejournal.ie/us-mexico-immigration-photo-4697766-Jun2019/

    The wee kid who was living in Turkey but wound up on a dinghy in the med because his da wanted to live in Europe?

    Yeah, it probably is like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 452 ✭✭Boxing.Fan


    I’m happy but also feel guilty tbh

    Why are you feeling guilty for something you have no control over. Dont worry, be happy...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    JohnMc1 wrote: »
    The war is over in Syria. They're begging their Men to come back and help rebuild.

    So how many of them are you housing and providing for? You're sure doing alot of virtue signalling, but are you actually practicing what you preach.

    Im not sure you actually fully understood the situation in syria.

    Perhaps you dont even know the situation in Libya.

    All these cheer leaded on by western governments.

    War not being actively engaged doesnt just switch everything back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭joe40


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    I can't be the only one who sees the word Libtard and immediately zones out of the rest of the post?

    Am I right in thinking the term libtard is an amalgamation of liberal and retard, a really disgusting term to describe someone with intellectual difficulties


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 525 ✭✭✭Jupiter Mulligan


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    I can't be the only one who sees the word Libtard and immediately zones out of the rest of the post?

    It's always reassuring to know that one is a member of a herd, right enough!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 452 ✭✭Boxing.Fan


    joe40 wrote: »
    Am I right in thinking the term libtard is an amalgamation of liberal and retard, a really disgusting term to describe someone with intellectual difficulties

    Makes sense dont ya think?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 525 ✭✭✭Jupiter Mulligan


    joe40 wrote: »
    Am I right in thinking the term libtard is an amalgamation of liberal and retard, a really disgusting term to describe someone with intellectual difficulties

    Very offensive of you to suggest that all liberals are intellectually challenged. Many of the brighter ones aren't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭MrFresh


    Even if the kid had not drowned she had a concentration camp to look forward to. The details coming out from the groups who have visited the imprisoned children are just awful. The US is committing massive human rights abuses on their border.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Bambi wrote: »
    The wee kid who was living in Turkey but wound up on a dinghy in the med because his da wanted to live in Europe?
    https://www.express.co.uk/comment/expresscomment/604590/Migrant-crisis-the-truth-about-the-boy-the-beach-Aylan-Kurdi
    In the aftermath of the tragedy, some questioned the father’s decision to risk the lives of his family,
    pointing out that Turkey, where he’d lived for three years, was at least a safe haven.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    When you life up a rock......




    this is what happens when the right wing websites on the internet a closed down.



    They scuttle around everywhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 452 ✭✭Boxing.Fan


    MrFresh wrote: »
    Even if the kid had not drowned she had a concentration camp to look forward to. The details coming out from the groups who have visited the imprisoned children are just awful. The US is committing massive human rights abuses on their border.

    What groups would these be now?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    JohnMc1 wrote: »
    The war is over in Syria. They're begging their Men to come back and help rebuild.

    So how many of them are you housing and providing for? You're sure doing alot of virtue signalling, but are you actually practicing what you preach.

    I pay plenty of tax, I'm pretty happy for Syrians in Ireland to be housed. I also donate plenty to charities that support them.

    Some Syrians are returning but it's still far from stabilised and I can totally understand those who don't return.

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/02/06/a-deadly-welcome-awaits-syrias-returning-refugees/

    Anyway, you seem to be being reduced to personal jabs at me at every turn. Should really try to grow out of that.
    Boxing.Fan wrote: »
    Makes sense dont ya think?

    Not a great reflection of one as a person if they think a derogatory term about mentally challenged people is a fun way of insulting a person. It's genuinely childish and Christ on a bike, it's horrifying that you're enjoying the use of it in a thread about a dead 23 month old.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,656 ✭✭✭✭Tokyo


    Thought so! Textbook libtard a la carte approach to the value of human life! Your type of selective compassion makes me want to vomit.
    Stfu soy boy


    Mod: Rein it in, both of you. Attack the post by all means, but not the poster.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Stfu soy boy

    Soy Boy?

    Ah well, we can add that to the list as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭joe40


    Boxing.Fan wrote: »
    Makes sense dont ya think?
    Very offensive of you to suggest that all liberals are intellectually challenged. Many of the brighter ones aren't.

    Nice to know the calibre of those you are in discussion with. Some classy examples here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 452 ✭✭Boxing.Fan


    joe40 wrote: »
    Nice to know the calibre of those you are in discussion with. Some classy examples here.

    Jesus, this place really is the home of perennially offended.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 335 ✭✭PistolsAtDawn


    The food airlifted itself into Berlin? Camps liberated themselves?
    It will be our problem quite soon when millions start arriving at Europe’s shores.

    It's a long swim from South America, many more floaters me thinks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,390 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Maybe we do owe them something given how Europe exploited Africa for so long.
    Yes, we should let them come to Europe and have their superior civilization and technology exploit and enslave us.
    Your statement is also racist - it's like "we should let them poor lads come here not because we consider them our equals, but because we owe them something"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Boxing.Fan wrote: »
    Jesus, this place really is the home of perennially offended.

    I think you might find the first poster in here was so offended at the press for this.


    Offence right out the gate.


    The lack of self awareness is delicious, yum yum


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭MrFresh


    Boxing.Fan wrote: »
    What groups would these be now?


    Here's the PBS report




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 525 ✭✭✭Jupiter Mulligan


    MrFresh wrote: »
    Even if the kid had not drowned she had a concentration camp to look forward to. The details coming out from the groups who have visited the imprisoned children are just awful. The US is committing massive human rights abuses on their border.

    Makes a thinking person wonder how appalling the abuses must be on the other side of that border.

    But hey! let's not condemn the corrupt third world regimes, let's all blame the Yanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 335 ✭✭PistolsAtDawn


    How do you know they had a choice? Utter desperation and wanting a better life for his child I would imagine.

    Could have filed an application for a visa, the option is there for him.

    If it was declined he would have to take it on the chin and apply again or elsewhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭joe40


    Boxing.Fan wrote: »
    Jesus, this place really is the home of perennially offended.

    I'm not offended at all. I just find the fact that if someone is willing to use the word retard or a derivative, it gives information about that individual.
    Use whatever words you like I don't mind, it is actually informative.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Makes a thinking person wonder how appalling the abuses must be on the other side of that border.

    But hey! let's not condemn the corrupt third world regimes, let's all blame the Yanks.

    Hmmm, feels like someone hasn't brushed up on US latin America sanctions policy.

    You reap what you sow as they say. aye!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    Could have filed an application for a visa, the option is there for him.

    If it was declined he would have to take it on the chin and apply again or elsewhere.

    He was applying for asylum. He and his family would have entered a camp indefinitely. A camp where conditions are terrible. People are literally dying on a regular basis at the moment, they're currently being likened to concentration camps for a good reason.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 452 ✭✭Boxing.Fan


    listermint wrote: »
    I think you might find the first poster in here was so offended at the press for this.


    Offence right out the gate.


    The lack of self awareness is delicious, yum yum

    Pure drivel coming out of you at this stage. I haven't been offended once and some posters are offended that I wasnt offended :pac:

    I'm quite enjoying the discussion, its passing a few hours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    I would definitely like to see the Venn diagram of people who are giving this lad advice on how to properly immigrate and those who are parents.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,819 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Cordell wrote: »
    Yes, we should let them come to Europe and have their superior civilization and technology exploit and enslave us.
    Your statement is also racist - it's like "we should let them poor lads come here not because we consider them our equals, but because we owe them something"

    I never mentioned letting anyone come to Europe in this thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 335 ✭✭PistolsAtDawn


    I was trying to make the point that people intervened to stop suffering and atrocities in the past. I’m not pro open borders or anything but we all know this is going to get worse and worse in US and Europe. What are we going to do, machine gun them all down as they try to enter? It’s gping to be a total sh*tshow, especially in Europe.

    What is your suggestion, open the door, let the all in, encouraging more to follow.

    I have a lock on my front door, if people want to come in they knock, I assess their threat to me then I either let them in or tell them to fack off


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    Boxing.Fan wrote: »
    Pure drivel coming out of you at this stage. I haven't been offended once and some posters are offended that I wasnt offended :pac:

    I'm quite enjoying the discussion, its passing a few hours.

    Grow up tbh, this is a discussion on a dead 23 month old. The light hearted way in which you're treating the topic is horrific.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 525 ✭✭✭Jupiter Mulligan


    listermint wrote: »
    Hmmm, feels like someone hasn't brushed up on US latin America sanctions policy.

    You reap what you sow as they say. aye!


    Yep - as I wrote above: hey! let's all blame the Yanks!

    Many thanks for your obedience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,819 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    What is your suggestion, open the door, let the all in, encouraging more to follow.

    Never suggested anything of the sort.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Boxing.Fan wrote: »
    Pure drivel coming out of you at this stage. I haven't been offended once and some posters are offended that I wasnt offended :pac:

    I'm quite enjoying the discussion, its passing a few hours.

    Oh but you are the embodiment of offence. Sure thats why you lads spend so long in threads like this each thread a carbon copy of the last.

    Its a joy to see.



    "Everything is just so 'PC' these days, i cant speak my mind anymore booo hoo"

    "I used to be able to talk about what i wanted in work, now HR have me dragged up if a i make remark about someone"

    Lol. Each thread same formula. Be outraged about someone elses outrage and always point the finger :pac: :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    MrFresh wrote: »
    Even if the kid had not drowned she had a concentration camp to look forward to. The details coming out from the groups who have visited the imprisoned children are just awful. The US is committing massive human rights abuses on their border.

    That is some serious hyperbole. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,390 ✭✭✭Cordell


    I never mentioned letting anyone come to Europe in this thread.

    Well, you kind of implied it, but ok, my bad. Still, anyone using that argument is a lot more racist than the close the borders crowd :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Yep - as I wrote above: hey! let's all blame the Yanks!

    Many thanks for your obedience.

    Must have never heard the term Reap then ?


    Not from outside dublin ?

    Maybe never brushed up on the linguistical nature dealing with crops ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 525 ✭✭✭Jupiter Mulligan


    batgoat wrote: »

    People are literally dying on a regular basis at the moment, they're currently being likened to concentration camps for a good reason.

    The "good reason" being because it plays on the emotions.

    I hate to break it to you, but people are literally dying on a regular basis outside those camps too. In fact my Great Aunt Agatha keeled over only last week at the tender age of 87. Her funeral is tomorrow if you want to send a mass card.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 452 ✭✭Boxing.Fan


    listermint wrote: »
    Oh but you are the embodiment of offence. Sure thats why you lads spend so long in threads like this each thread a carbon copy of the last.

    Its a joy to see.



    "Everything is just so 'PC' these days, i cant speak my mind anymore booo hoo"

    "I used to be able to talk about what i wanted in work, now HR have me dragged up if a i make remark about someone"

    Lol. Each thread same formula. Be outraged about someone elses outrage and always point the finger :pac: :pac:

    You've completely lost it fella.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭joe40


    It's a long swim from South America, many more floaters me thinks.

    Look how tough I am, I can call dead people "floaters".

    There is a discussion to be had in relation to immigration, with different points of view, but comments like that are just stupid. No discussion is possible


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    batgoat wrote: »
    He was applying for asylum. He and his family would have entered a camp indefinitely. A camp where conditions are terrible. People are literally dying on a regular basis at the moment, they're currently being likened to concentration camps for a good reason.

    By trying to enter illegally across a river?? Of course he was!! He was probably a doctor or professor like all the illegal immigrants we get too, huh?? :rolleyes::rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    That is some serious hyperbole. :rolleyes:

    The administration is literally arguing against allowing children to have soap and toothpaste in those camps. No medical care is available, no sanitation. Lights always on. Flu outbreaks. So not hyperbole and it's a national scandal for good reason...


    https://news.yahoo.com/grim-reports-border-detention-concentration-camps-165512055.html
    By trying to enter illegally across a river?? Of course he was!! He was probably a doctor or professor like all the illegal immigrants we get too, huh?? :rolleyes::rolleyes:

    It's literally stated in the original article that he did initially attempt to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Boxing.Fan wrote: »
    You've completely lost it fella.


    where did it all go wrong Boxey ?

    Did you have to take down the topless calendar in the office, was that when it started. The attack on the white man. First it was the calendar, then it was the foul language.

    Then suddenly there was a foreign GP in my local. All of a sudden i seen one in the school. Next people stopped going to mass on sundays

    Someone must be to blame, but who, i need to blame someone.....


    :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,943 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    JohnMc1 wrote: »
    Who the hell has Ireland ever ****ed over, colonized,etc? Either way we should not be held responsible for things that happened hundreds of years ago.

    Africa has been received billions [if not trillions at this point] in aid [both tax money and charity money] and its still a third world Continent.

    Its not out fault they've failed to improve where they live.

    Did you actually read what I wrote?

    Saying we have no part in this is just as silly as if I was saying ‘well Ireland was (technically) part of the Empire when the brunt of colonialism happened’


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