Donald Trump Presidency discussion Thread VI

everlast75

I just love it when Trump is put back in his box about conspiracy theories and people call him on his BS.


https://twitter.com/EllenLWeintraub/status/1162474973115666434?s=19

aloyisious

I see in Don's comments about the Antifa group an attempt to rile them up at the Portland rally they were attending while also saying he was looking at how Portland's mayor [read local PD] was handling the situation between the Antifa and the Nazi rallies in that city.

His attempt to use the union members at his last rally for political purposes "sack your union reps if they don't tell you to vote for me as they wouldn't be doing their jobs" while there is the matter as to where the alleged letter to the workers telling them that if they didn't attend the rally at the plant they would not get paid for the day at work came from and whether it is a fake or genuine warning letter, presumably supposed to be from their employer.

Igotadose

Kudlow now saying no recession in sight. Well, that about confirms it as definite for me.
At least when he blatted on about this, the reporter pointed out he wrote an article late in 2007 saying recession wasn't going to happen then, too.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/economy-recession-trump_n_5d594f29e4b056fafd0d6003

TomOnBoard

Igotadose wrote: »

Kudlow now saying no recession in sight. Well, that about confirms it as definite for me.
At least when he blatted on about this, the reporter pointed out he wrote an article late in 2007 saying recession wasn't going to happen then, too.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/economy-recession-trump_n_5d594f29e4b056fafd0d6003

Kudlow and Navarro went out to scotch recession talk this weekend. Navarro seemed to manage it sober, but Kudlow looked like he was loaded in his interview on Fox.

https://crooksandliars.com/2019/08/twitter-speculates-about-obviously-drunk

Igotadose

TomOnBoard wrote: »

Kudlow and Navarro went out to scotch recession talk this weekend. Navarro seemed to manage it sober, but Kudlow looked like he was loaded in his interview on Fox.

https://crooksandliars.com/2019/08/twitter-speculates-about-obviously-drunk

Crap. "That's the Laffer curve, we believe in it."

Sober or not, it's objectively stupid. I don't think ol Larry was drunk, he's old, and probably exhausted.
Just makes me scream to see this guy have any kind of platform given all he's ever been, is wrong, when it comes to economic forecasting. Just a known face from CNBC that Trump scraped up for his cabinet.

everlast75

https://twitter.com/alexi/status/1163192990355136512?s=19


You wonder why he has fired* so many people who works for him.

He simply cannot handle bad news. There is something cognitively wrong with this man's brain. The fact that he has remained in his position is a damning indictment of the GOP.

*has someone else fire

Water John

Remember Trump's original plan was, having failed to get elected POTUS in 2016, he would start a TV station to the right of Fox. No harm to keep that plan for 2020.

The Nal

Really enjoyed The Trump Dynasty on History channel. Last episode of 3 last night. Very well made and thorough.

MrFresh

everlast75 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/alexi/status/1163192990355136512?s=19


You wonder why he has fired* so many people who works for him.

He simply cannot handle bad news. There is something cognitively wrong with this man's brain. The fact that he has remained in his position is a damning indictment of the GOP.

*has someone else fire

He really does seem to be spiraling a bit though. Walls closing in. He could be very dangerous the next year.

everlast75

MrFresh wrote: »

He really does seem to be spiraling a bit though. Walls closing in. He could be very dangerous the next year.

I had a look on his twitter feed (and I know therefore that I deserve everything I get) but he is actually retweeting people who tweet that they "love" him. Men, women, organisations - doesn't matter. He retweets it.

The mind ****ing boggles.

StringerBell

Water John wrote: »

Remember Trump's original plan was, having failed to get elected POTUS in 2016, he would start a TV station to the right of Fox. No harm to keep that plan for 2020.

There is already a network to the right of Fox, already very powerful. Sinclair Broadcasting Group I think, Sinclair anyway. John Oliver did a segment on them a year or two ago.

Water John

Trump would hope to take some of the well known names on Fox with him and get a head start that way, IWT.

kilns

No prizes for what the new News network would be called too

Water John

Trump Fake News.

Alternative news?

Igotadose

He's still odds-on in 2020. He can shoot people on 5th avenue and his supporters will vote for them. Especially if he shoots brown people.

Let's not get ahead here at all. There's a ton of time between now and November 2020. He can get the US into a shooting war with someone. He might've horked the economy, but he's so mercurial he might backpedal on all his tariffs should someone convince him it'll improve his election chances. The man remains the most powerful individual on the planet for now.

He's not getting hauled up in front of Congress anytime soon - what is taking the House Judiciary committee so long?

Get past the tragicomedy that is his daily activities, and he's still President. Plus there are still way too many Democratic candidates, who will be bashing on each other before the primaries finally get rid of some of them. Neither Biden nor Sanders are looking particularly great, one needs to drop out sooner, rather than later, to help consolidate the opposition to Trump.

And it would be refreshing to hear them say something about Trump. And say something about how they're going to help out the disaffected that Trump resonated with in 2016. What *are* their plans for the out of work steelworker in Western Pennsylvania? For the West Virginia coal miner whose town is a casualty of the Sacklers? Why did Florida go for Trump after Clinton was leading in the mail-ins? Why is Florida so razor-thin each time? That kind of thing.

It'd be a big boost to their chances in 2020.

Water John

Plenty time for the Dem nominee to turn their focus on Trump. Doing it too early would be a big mistake. Firstly they need to develop a positive alternative and bring that to the public. That is what they are doing right now.

The Nal

People will vote with their wallets so hes going to win again.

Igotadose

The Nal wrote: »

People will vote with their wallets so hes going to win again.

Ehh. If there's a recession, they'll vote with their wallets for sure.

everlast75

The Nal wrote: »

People will vote with their wallets so hes going to win again.

Have you any facts or statistics that show middle class people are better off?

What are your thoughts on his promise to half the deficit, but instead its spiralling out of control?

ct5amr2ig1nfhp

^^ In 2016, Trump promised to 'eliminate' the US federal debt within 8 years. At that time it was ~19 trillion USD.

aloyisious

Looking back at two of his recent performances: he seems to be running scared of losing votes. The Union rally where he exhorted the workers there to fire their union reps if they did not do their job to tell the workers to vote for him in the next election. The Helicopter chat where he said the economy is doing great, people had money in their pockets to spend and this was because of his tax breaks to them shows he appreciates how the health of the economy under him is shaky.

duploelabs

The Nal wrote: »

Really enjoyed The Trump Dynasty on History channel. Last episode of 3 last night. Very well made and thorough.

I haven't watched that but have you watched Episode 6 of Dirty Money on Netflix called 'Confidence man', very enlightening

The Nal

Igotadose wrote: »

Ehh. If there's a recession, they'll vote with their wallets for sure.

Absolutely. Then he'll be out.

everlast75 wrote: »

Have you any facts or statistics that show middle class people are better off?

What are your thoughts on his promise to half the deficit, but instead its spiralling out of control?

Most people couldn't give a fiddlers about that. If they feel better off and have jobs they'll keep the same guy. Always the case.

In the last 100 years -

Bush Snr - Voted out after one term due to a recession.
Jimmy Carter - Voted out after one term due to a recession.
Herbert Hoover - Voted out after one term due to a recession/depression.

All of the others could bomb whoever they wanted, start whatever wars they wanted, stick cigars into whatever interns they wanted and grab whoevers pussy they wanted and get away with it. Preside over people losing their jobs though and you're a goner.

So failing a recession in the next 13 months, he'll be re-elected. Kamala, Creepy Joe, Liz etc can't do anything about it. The "hes a pig" (which he is) message doesn't work.

Stop moaning ffs

He’s just setting up the board of targets he can blame in the campaign for the economy tanking. Expect this language to escalate id bet



https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1163390176539942913

pixelburp

Fox & Friends, alongside K. Conway, were also leading the charge this morning trying to pin all the recession talk on the Mainstream Media & Liberal conspiracy. To quote some of this mentality:

"It’s so obvious what they’re doing!" said, Fox & Friends host Ainsley Earhardt. "They do not want him to win again and they don’t like that the economy is doing well, apparently."

"There is no economic data out there that suggests we are on the cusp of a recession," agreed Fox Business host Charles Payne. "The bottom line is it seems to be a deliberate attempt by many people to make this economy go into recession."

The narrative is being actively formed, just in time for the 2020 campaign: IF there is a (global) recession, it'll not be Trump's fault or any (in)action he took, rather it'll be those US-hating Liberals who just don't want American to be Great Again.

eire4

The Nal wrote: »

People will vote with their wallets so hes going to win again.

If most people in the US actually did vote with their wallets the last party they would be voting for would be the Republican's. I wish they actually did vote en mass with their wallets the world would be a much better place for it.

MadYaker

That’s all well and good but if a recession actually happens he can’t really blame the media or the liberals. If he’s been taking credit for the economy he’ll have to own a recession as well, even his supporters wouldn’t swallow that one.

Billy Mays

MadYaker wrote: »

That’s all well and god but if a recession actually happens he can’t really blame the media or the liberals. If he’s been taking credit for the economy he’ll have to own a recession as well, even his supporters wouldn’t swallow that one.

You give his supporters far too much credit

Gbear

MadYaker wrote: »

That’s all well and god but if a recession actually happens he can’t really blame the media or the liberals. If he’s been taking credit for the economy he’ll have to own a recession as well, even his supporters wouldn’t swallow that one.

The base will. They will literally swallow any absolute tripe so long as they see him as furthering what has now become primarily a white identity-based platform.

What he won't have is small c working and middle class conservatives, who are happy to vote in a racist so long as it doesn't hurt their bottom lines.