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Donald Trump Presidency discussion Thread VI

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  • Registered Users Posts: 25,520 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    robinph wrote: »
    Thought they made that ruling a couple of years ago.

    Breaking news on sky news website at the moment


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,447 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    H. Ross Perot died. Interesting character in US politics. Last time the US had any kind of a third party candidate.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    Breaking news on sky news website at the moment

    Weird, there are articles with the same headline from 23rd May.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/23/trump-cant-block-twitter-followers-federal-judge-says.html


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    Ah, must have been the appeal.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/donald-trump-twitter-block-us-court-ruling-latest-a8997151.html
    Donald Trump can't block people on Twitter, a US appeals court has found.
    Knowing Trump, he will take this all the way and when he loses, won't accept this.
    This guy needs democracy explained to him.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,444 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    I'm confused. I thought SCOTUS made rulings based on the constitution. Is that not the case?

    If so, and I think it is, then it really doesn't matter what 70% of the people want. A majority of people want gun control but the constitution rules against that.

    I find it odd that people are so tied to the constitution on one issue, but so happy to ignore it on others

    As I understood it , SCOTUS knocked back the census question not because having the question itself was unconstitutional , but because the variety of made up reasons that the Trump team gave for wanting to include it were an issue.

    Also at issue is the fact that they demanded that the case be fast tracked through the courts because according to them June 30th was an absolute drop dead date to have the issue resolved as beyond that they would miss the legally binding window for running the census.

    However , now that they have lost in the courts it would appear that the 30th of June was not the critical date they made it out to be.

    A law has potentially been broken here in that they misrepresented facts to expedite the case - This might explain why all the original lawyers working on the case have stood down en-bloc before they go back to the courts with another round of spurious justifications.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭dinorebel


    Ah, must have been the appeal.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/donald-trump-twitter-block-us-court-ruling-latest-a8997151.html


    Knowing Trump, he will take this all the way and when he loses, won't accept this.
    This guy needs democracy explained to him.
    He totally understands democracy he just doesn't like or agree with it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,216 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    I don't know at what level trade talks are between the two, I suspect at a very early stage, but they won't be going further for a while
    https://twitter.com/Independent/status/1148643052657025025?s=19


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,170 ✭✭✭Stallingrad


    Extraordinary Twitter diahorea from Trump today insulting May just weeks after lauding her. He is such a rudderless, thin skinned empty vessel. He insults people on a daily basis and when the UK ambassador says what even the dogs in the street know he has a total meltdown. What a sad individual.


  • Registered Users Posts: 39,823 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    I see that Trump is now saying he "wasn't a big fan" of Jeffrey Epstein. Right, so that article from 2002 is presumably fake news then ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    dinorebel wrote: »
    He totally understands democracy he just doesn't like or agree with it.

    Tbh I don't think he understands much bar what can benefit him


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,298 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    Extraordinary Twitter diahorea from Trump today insulting May just weeks after lauding her. He is such a rudderless, thin skinned empty vessel. He insults people on a daily basis and when the UK ambassador says what even the dogs in the street know he has a total meltdown. What a sad individual.

    The saddest thing about all this is that the UK will have no choice but to back down. May is just about done and Boris won't say a peep against Trump so Darroch will be shown the door soon enough and Trump will have gotten away with his verbal diarrhoea yet again. It's disgraceful conduct from someone in a public office.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,380 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Trump asks Barr to investigate the "oranges" of the Russia investigation, expecting to find dirt on Steele and the dossier (even though they did not spark the investigation).

    How did that work out?

    https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1148629143153795073?s=19


  • Registered Users Posts: 238 ✭✭ShauntaMetzel


    In my opinions, media is not backing Trump because the deep state of America doesn't like him. I know he is a little strange but I like him because he is not a hypocrate. Previous presidents also made blenders in their ruling period but media wasn't as against as they are for Trump.


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    In my opinions, media is not backing Trump because the deep state of America doesn't like him. I khnow he is a little strange but I like him because he is not a hypocrate. Previous presidents also made blenders in their ruling period but media wasn't as against as they are for Trump.
    He is a massive hypocrite. Just last week he was encouraging young people to join the military at his ridiculous parade, which is funny coming from the guy who dodged the draft for Vietnam. I'm sure there are many other examples of his hypocrisy.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    In my opinions, media is not backing Trump because the deep state of America doesn't like him. I know he is a little strange but I like him because he is not a hypocrate. Previous presidents also made blenders in their ruling period but media wasn't as against as they are for Trump.

    I guess you mean hypocrite.
    Did your keyboard start smoking when you typed this?
    It is akin to saying the bear does his business in the toilets of Grand Central Station and the Pope is a confirmed atheist.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 38,466 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    In my opinions, media is not backing Trump because the deep state of America doesn't like him. I know he is a little strange but I like him because he is not a hypocrate. Previous presidents also made blenders in their ruling period but media wasn't as against as they are for Trump.

    No more deep state stuff please.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 38,466 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    If you have a problem with a post, report it. No more snide quips please.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,207 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Amazing to see a sitting president of the USA blasting the UK PM on Twitter :pac: that ambassador is gone as soon as Boris gets in.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,506 ✭✭✭amandstu


    If President De Gaulle was described as the "pissenlit" ,how I wonder ,in corresponding terms might we describe this sh*t the bed ?

    Clearly abandoning the USA's responsibilities except insofar as they relate to its own narrow interests (unless chumminess with dictators counts as the new internationalism--reminding me of that old entente cordiale between Stalin and
    Hitler.)


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,380 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Someone mentioned Borris' comments about Trump. I had not seen them.

    They are quite something


    https://twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/1148645124555124736?s=19


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  • Registered Users Posts: 33,580 ✭✭✭✭Penn




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,094 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    Ambassador to the US has just resigned.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Johnsons' comments are utterly meaningless; if Trump lies ad nauseam, then Johnson dissembles ad nauseam. He's a naked careerist and will kowtow to Trump if that's what the situation or Johnson's betterment requires.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,951 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    I wonder if Darroch's resignation today is a tactical move so he can be replaced before Boris gets to do the picking? Get someone with a clean slate re offending Trump but who is still an actual diplomat, not one of Johnson cronies.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,371 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    B0jangles wrote: »
    I wonder if Darroch's resignation today is a tactical move so he can be replaced before Boris gets to do the picking? Get someone with a clean slate re offending Trump but who is still an actual diplomat, not one of Johnson cronies.

    I thought exactly the same thing.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,444 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    B0jangles wrote: »
    I wonder if Darroch's resignation today is a tactical move so he can be replaced before Boris gets to do the picking? Get someone with a clean slate re offending Trump but who is still an actual diplomat, not one of Johnson cronies.
    I thought exactly the same thing.

    Would replacing Darroch now somehow prevent Johnson selecting his own choice once he's PM should he so wish?

    Surely Johnson can replace an ambassador whenever he likes , or is there some set of rules that might prevent it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,951 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Would replacing Darroch now somehow prevent Johnson selecting his own choice once he's PM should he so wish?

    Surely Johnson can replace an ambassador whenever he likes , or is there some set of rules that might prevent it?


    Oh yeah of course, but replacing Darroch would be easy on the grounds of 'maintaining the best possible relationship with our biggest and most important (and handsome!) ally', while immediately replacing a newly appointed, highly-qualified successor who has done nothing to justify such treatment with someone as unqualified as Farage, for example, would look a lot worse.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,580 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Would replacing Darroch now somehow prevent Johnson selecting his own choice once he's PM should he so wish?

    Surely Johnson can replace an ambassador whenever he likes , or is there some set of rules that might prevent it?

    Bad optics if you replace them for no good reason though, unless you can move them somewhere else.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,371 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Would replacing Darroch now somehow prevent Johnson selecting his own choice once he's PM should he so wish?

    Surely Johnson can replace an ambassador whenever he likes , or is there some set of rules that might prevent it?

    If May appoints one now, the optics of Johnson replacing them would be very poor. Almost as if populist was sucking up to populist...


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  • Registered Users Posts: 557 ✭✭✭Walter Bishop


    If May appoints one now, the optics of Johnson replacing them would be very poor. Almost as if populist was sucking up to populist...

    The optics might be poor but it should be fairly obvious by now that the likes of Johnson, Trump, and their supporters don’t really care about that sort of thing.


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