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Donald Trump Presidency discussion Thread VI

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  • Site Banned Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭RIGOLO


    everlast75 wrote: »
    Laughable stuff as usual.

    Racism is a strategy now?

    Ffs, when will this utter nonsense end.

    Thats ironic given its been one of the major cards the Democrats and the anti-TRumpers have been playing for 2 years.

    Every second word out of a Democrat or anti-TRumper is the word 'RACIST' , its their ONLY strategy in some matters, to play hte race card.

    It seems to be their only policy agenda. Everything from the The Lion King movie to Wizard of Oz, to statues , portraits, the AMerican Flag to NFL Football to Womens soccer has had a racist agenda or been spoken of by the liberal left anti-TRumpers in a "racist" framework.

    Keep it up , its a strategy that will ensure TRump 2020 re-election.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,580 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    A free country, yet Trump and his supporters get triggered by 'libtards'?

    A free country that wants to ban abortion?

    A free country that wants to limit LFBT rights?

    A free country where the president just told coloured women to stop any criticism or else to leave?


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,383 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    Thats ironic given its been one of the major cards the Democrats and the anti-TRumpers have been playing for 2 years.

    Every second word out of a Democrat or anti-TRumper is the word 'RACIST' , its their ONLY strategy in some matters, to play hte race card.

    It seems to be their only policy agenda. Everything from the The Lion King movie to Wizard of Oz, to statues , portraits, the AMerican Flag to NFL Football to Womens soccer has had a racist agenda or been spoken of by the liberal left anti-TRumpers in a "racist" framework.

    Keep it up , its a strategy that will ensure TRump 2020 re-election.

    Trump is a white nationalist.

    You support a white nationalist.

    Accept it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,580 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    everlast75 wrote: »
    Laughable stuff as usual.

    Racism is a strategy now?

    Ffs, when will this utter nonsense end.

    Thats ironic given its been one of the major cards the Democrats and the anti-TRumpers have been playing for 2 years.

    Every second word out of a Democrat or anti-TRumper is the word 'RACIST' , its their ONLY strategy in some matters, to play hte race card.

    It seems to be their only policy agenda. Everything from the The Lion King movie to Wizard of Oz, to statues , portraits, the AMerican Flag to NFL Football to Womens soccer has had a racist agenda or been spoken of by the liberal left anti-TRumpers in a "racist" framework.

    Keep it up , its a strategy that will ensure TRump 2020 re-election.
    What will ensure a reelection in 2020 is enough people put their racism and misogyny ahead of their moral values.

    Nothing the others do is going to change that.


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭RIGOLO


    Another major victory for the TRump Administration this week.
    The DOW closed at a Record high 27332
    The S&P500 closed at a record high 3013
    The NASDAQ closed at a record high 8244.

    This all follows on from J Powells Fed Chairman testimony in Congress.
    And remember all the anti-TRumpers got frantic when TRump had that tete-a-tete with J Powell a few months back over Fed rates . Looks like Trump has won this round of that contretemps.

    Seems the market is pricing in a rate cut and have responded very positively.

    Another win for TRump Administration .
    Another market record for the TRump Administration, locked down and written into the history books.

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/stock-market-aims-for-another-round-of-records-as-bulls-bank-on-fed-rate-cut-2019-07-12


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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,383 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    Another major victory for the TRump Administration this week.
    The DOW closed at a Record high 27332
    The S&P500 closed at a record high 3013
    The NASDAQ closed at a record high 8244.

    This all follows on from J Powells Fed Chairman testimony in Congress.
    And remember all the anti-TRumpers got frantic when TRump had that tete-a-tete with J Powell a few months back over Fed rates . Looks like Trump has won this round of that contretemps.

    Seems the market is pricing in a rate cut and have responded very positively.

    Another win for TRump Administration .
    Another market record for the TRump Administration, locked down and written into the history books.

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/stock-market-aims-for-another-round-of-records-as-bulls-bank-on-fed-rate-cut-2019-07-12

    Trump is a white nationalist.

    You support a white nationalist.

    Are you going to accept that?


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭RIGOLO


    everlast75 wrote: »
    Trump is a white nationalist.

    You support a white nationalist.

    Accept it.

    Says you ...
    I say differently .

    Which is whats great about a free country .. you dont have to accept anything a person says about you .


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    Another major victory for the TRump Administration this week.
    The DOW closed at a Record high 27332
    The S&P500 closed at a record high 3013
    The NASDAQ closed at a record high 8244.

    This all follows on from J Powells Fed Chairman testimony in Congress.
    And remember all the anti-TRumpers got frantic when TRump had that tete-a-tete with J Powell a few months back over Fed rates . Looks like Trump has won this round of that contretemps.

    Seems the market is pricing in a rate cut and have responded very positively.

    Another win for TRump Administration .
    Another market record for the TRump Administration, locked down and written into the history books.

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/stock-market-aims-for-another-round-of-records-as-bulls-bank-on-fed-rate-cut-2019-07-12

    You do know markets are cyclical and they will correct or even crash. This may not happen by 2020 elections but certainly will happen by 2024, if Trump gets re-elected will you (as in Trump supporters) equally take responsibility for when it corrects/crashes?


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,383 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    Says you ...
    I say differently .

    Which is whats great about a free country .. you dont have to accept anything a person says about you .

    Indeed. As President, you can tell them to go back to the country they came from.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    It is quite disgusting that no republicans have come out and condemned Trump for his racist tweets, it just shows what has happened in America and they are all scared of Trump, if you come out against him he attacks you and you get singled out. America is going down a very dangerous road


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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,580 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Rigolo, why do you think Teump signalled out coloured women in his tweet and used the, totally incorrect btw, demand they ho back where they came from.

    What is your opinion on what he meant?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    Rigolo, why do you think Teump signalled out coloured women in his tweet and used the, totally incorrect btw, demand they ho back where they came from.

    What is your opinion on what he meant?

    There is no defending it, if any other President in the history of the country had said that, heck even fictional presidents in TV shows or Movies!, they would have to resign, how has America sunk so low....


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    Another major victory for the TRump Administration this week.
    The DOW closed at a Record high 27332
    The S&P500 closed at a record high 3013
    The NASDAQ closed at a record high 8244.

    This all follows on from J Powells Fed Chairman testimony in Congress.
    And remember all the anti-TRumpers got frantic when TRump had that tete-a-tete with J Powell a few months back over Fed rates . Looks like Trump has won this round of that contretemps.

    Seems the market is pricing in a rate cut and have responded very positively.

    Another win for TRump Administration .
    Another market record for the TRump Administration, locked down and written into the history books.






    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/stock-market-aims-for-another-round-of-records-as-bulls-bank-on-fed-rate-cut-2019-07-12


    So why can't he achieve better growth than Obama?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,349 ✭✭✭volchitsa


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    Rigolo, why do you think Teump signalled out coloured women in his tweet and used the, totally incorrect btw, demand they ho back where they came from.

    What is your opinion on what he meant?

    Crass to say it to any of them, even the Somali who arrived at age 12, given America's history of immigration, but imagine saying that to a black American (Pressley)? How is that anything other than a blatant combination of both racism and ignorance?


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,350 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    The funny thing is Trump and his supporters are claiming AOC and the like hate America and talk negatively about it all the time hence they are not patriots.. yet that was Trump's entire campaign in 16. America sucks only I can fix it and make it great again, Obama is terrible. 96 million out of work etc etc.

    They must think people have short memories.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,580 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    The reason I am asking is that Rigolo is doing everything they can to avoid dealing with the topic. I always find it strange that supporters that seemingly love the fact that Trump "tells it like it is" are so slow to actually deal with what he actually says and/or come up with the their own interpretation of what he said.

    Rigolo, I get that you would love to talk about the stock market and other things, but it is not the fault of this thread that we are talking about the tweets. It is not some media biased or left wing hate campaign. Trump uses tweeter to get people to talk about him and what he says, it is a major reason on why he maintains his popularity among his base. So it seems odd that you are avoiding dealing with the very thing that Trump wants you to talk about.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,580 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    rossie1977 wrote: »
    The funny thing is Trump and his supporters are claiming AOC and the like hate America and talk negatively about it all the time hence they are not patriots.. yet that was Trump's entire campaign in 16. America sucks only I can fix it and make it great again, Obama is terrible. 96 million out of work etc etc.

    They must think people have short memories.

    It is not that they have short memories, it is that their positions are based almost entirely on the person saying it rather that what is said/done.

    Obama inflating the deficit is terrible, Trump does it and he is a genius. AOC talks about America is failing, she is a unpatriotic immigrant that should know her place. Trump claims the US is a dump and taken advantage of by every other country, the man is just telling it like it is.

    The only position, the only memory they have, is that they want things to suit themselves. They don't like foreigners, the don't like coloured people, they accept women but don't think they should get above themselves.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,270 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    Another major victory for the TRump Administration this week.
    The DOW closed at a Record high 27332
    The S&P500 closed at a record high 3013
    The NASDAQ closed at a record high 8244.

    This all follows on from J Powells Fed Chairman testimony in Congress.
    And remember all the anti-TRumpers got frantic when TRump had that tete-a-tete with J Powell a few months back over Fed rates . Looks like Trump has won this round of that contretemps.

    Seems the market is pricing in a rate cut and have responded very positively.

    Another win for TRump Administration .
    Another market record for the TRump Administration, locked down and written into the history books.

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/stock-market-aims-for-another-round-of-records-as-bulls-bank-on-fed-rate-cut-2019-07-12

    Am unsolicited incorrect post about the economy, who had that in 'Rigolo Bingo defence'?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,266 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    The reason I am asking is that Rigolo is doing everything they can to avoid dealing with the topic. I always find it strange that supporters that seemingly love the fact that Trump "tells it like it is" are so slow to actually deal with what he actually says and/or come up with the their own interpretation of what he said.

    Rigolo, I get that you would love to talk about the stock market and other things, but it is not the fault of this thread that we are talking about the tweets. It is not some media biased or left wing hate campaign. Trump uses tweeter to get people to talk about him and what he says, it is a major reason on why he maintains his popularity among his base. So it seems odd that you are avoiding dealing with the very thing that Trump wants you to talk about.

    Or you could ignore this poster....like everyone else.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭hill16bhoy


    Some might say the same about those who firebomb abortion clinics after hours when nobody is in.

    Some might, and those same "some" would want to have a pretty ****ed up moral compass to think that, given that anti-abortionism is a tool of Handmaid's Tale-esque control over women's bodies.

    A hell of a lot of people would compare the burning of buses used to round up and deport immigrants to burning a train earmarked to be used for carrying Jewish prisoners in Nazi Germany.

    That would have been "illegal" too.

    Have you written one word on this forum about the abhorrent treatment of immigrants, asylum seekers and their children, including sexual abuse, by this flagrantly racist and cruel regime?

    Because I haven't read one from you.

    Like Rigolo, you're only too happy to pretend you're a "respectable" Trump supporter, while being only too happy to support the cruelty, the racism, the degrading treatment, the lies, the corruption, the horrible policies, and everything else.

    The reality is, there is no such thing as a "respectable" Trump supporter.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭hill16bhoy


    Leroy42 wrote: »

    The only position, the only memory they have, is that they want things to suit themselves. They don't like foreigners, the don't like coloured people, they accept women but don't think they should get above themselves.

    Trump and his supporters are the US equivalent of those who put signs with "KAT", Irish flags, and effigies of black Celtic players on bonfires up north and think it's great craic.

    The DUP are "liberal" in comparison to them, actually.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭hill16bhoy


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    Free country , you call burning of an empty bus to pick up illegal aliens heroism.

    I call arresting 50 illegal aliens, some wanted for murder , responsible for a major heroin drug trafficking ring in Massachussettes and with enough Fentanyl to kill half the population of that state, I call that HEROISM.

    This is an example of what those buses are sometimes used for , the transportation of illegal aliens who may have commited serious crimes and destroyed the fabric of the community.

    https://www.bostonherald.com/2018/12/06/ice/

    So called illegal immigrants commit considerably less crime than US citizens.

    Your post there is just racist nonsense straight from the Nazi playbook.

    It's the exact same technique that Nazis, facists and other genocidal maniacs the world over have used to whip racial hatred against minorites.

    Have a think about that.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,444 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    hill16bhoy wrote: »
    Some might, and those same "some" would want to have a pretty ****ed up moral compass to think that, given that anti-abortionism is a tool of Handmaid's Tale-esque control over women's bodies.

    A hell of a lot of people would compare the burning of buses used to round up and deport immigrants to burning a train earmarked to be used for carrying Jewish prisoners in Nazi Germany.

    That would have been "illegal" too.

    Have you written one word on this forum about the abhorrent treatment of immigrants, asylum seekers and their children, including sexual abuse, by this flagrantly racist and cruel regime?

    Because I haven't read one from you.

    Like Rigolo, you're only too happy to pretend you're a "respectable" Trump supporter, while being only too happy to support the cruelty, the racism, the degrading treatment, the lies, the corruption, the horrible policies, and everything else.

    The reality is, there is no such thing as a "respectable" Trump supporter.
    hill16bhoy wrote: »
    So called illegal immigrants commit considerably less crime than US citizens.

    Your post there is just racist nonsense straight from the Nazi playbook.

    It's the exact same technique that Nazis, facists and other genocidal maniacs the world over have used to whip racial hatred against minorites.

    Have a think about that.

    ##Mod Note#

    Dial back the rhetoric please.

    Attack the post , not the poster.

    Thanks


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 38,481 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    ##Mod Note#

    Dial back the rhetoric please.

    Attack the post , not the poster.

    Thanks

    Post deleted and user banned.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,152 ✭✭✭26000 Elephants


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    Boston-based Immigration and Customs Enforcement teams joined others from all over New England in a continuation of this fall’s Operation Law and Order. The earlier sweep netted 50 suspected illegal immigrant drug dealers and resulted in the seizure of enough fentanyl to “kill half the state,” one top official said at the time.

    I am amazed that the term "Illegal Immigrant Drug Dealer" is even a thing. Surely they are "drug dealers" and their immigration status should be secondary? Or are you *only* looking for drug dealers who also happen to be illegal immigrants? So if a drug dealer produces a US passport, then he is sent merrily on his way? Are fentanyl deaths attributed to US citizens somehow OK?


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,925 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    Thats ironic given its been one of the major cards the Democrats and the anti-TRumpers have been playing for 2 years.

    Every second word out of a Democrat or anti-TRumper is the word 'RACIST' , its their ONLY strategy in some matters, to play hte race card.

    It seems to be their only policy agenda. Everything from the The Lion King movie to Wizard of Oz, to statues , portraits, the AMerican Flag to NFL Football to Womens soccer has had a racist agenda or been spoken of by the liberal left anti-TRumpers in a "racist" framework.

    Keep it up , its a strategy that will ensure TRump 2020 re-election.

    Why do you ALWAYS spell it "TRump" rather than "Trump"?

    It happens too often to be a miss-keying.


  • Registered Users Posts: 900 ✭✭✭Midlife


    And that's literally the last thing the Trump cheerleaders can sing about while ignoring everything else that's going on.

    "The Dow is at a record high. This must be Trump's doing, he's a genius."

    Following the recession in the late 70's.....

    1982 (2 record closes)
    1983 (30 record closes)
    1984 (0 record closes)
    1985 (36 record closes)
    1986 (30 record closes)
    1987 (55 record closes)
    1988 (0 record closes)
    1989 (8 record closes)
    1990 (15 record closes)
    1991 (11 record closes)
    1992 (22 record closes)
    1993 (33 record closes)
    1994 (12 record closes)
    1995 (69 record closes)
    1996 (44 record closes)
    1997 (39 record closes)
    1998 (30 record closes)
    1999 (35 record closes)
    2000 (4 record closes)
    2001–2005 (0 record closes)
    2006 (22 record closes)
    2007 (34 record closes)
    2008–2012 (0 record closes)
    2013 (52 record closes)
    2014 (38 record closes)
    2015 (6 record closes)
    2016 (26 record closes)
    2017 (71 record closes)
    2018 (15 record closes)
    2019 (3 record closes)

    You literally couldn't find a more pointless metric.

    You may as well be saying 'life expectancy is going up under Trump, he's a genius'

    What absolute buffonery.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,270 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Midlife wrote: »
    And that's literally the last thing the Trump cheerleaders can sing about while ignoring everything else that's going on.

    "The Dow is at a record high. This must be Trump's doing, he's a genius."

    Following the recession in the late 70's.....

    1982 (2 record closes)
    1983 (30 record closes)
    1984 (0 record closes)
    1985 (36 record closes)
    1986 (30 record closes)
    1987 (55 record closes)
    1988 (0 record closes)
    1989 (8 record closes)
    1990 (15 record closes)
    1991 (11 record closes)
    1992 (22 record closes)
    1993 (33 record closes)
    1994 (12 record closes)
    1995 (69 record closes)
    1996 (44 record closes)
    1997 (39 record closes)
    1998 (30 record closes)
    1999 (35 record closes)
    2000 (4 record closes)
    2001–2005 (0 record closes)
    2006 (22 record closes)
    2007 (34 record closes)
    2008–2012 (0 record closes)
    2013 (52 record closes)
    2014 (38 record closes)
    2015 (6 record closes)
    2016 (26 record closes)
    2017 (71 record closes)
    2018 (15 record closes)
    2019 (3 record closes)

    You literally couldn't find a more pointless metric.

    You may as well be saying 'life expectancy is going up under Trump, he's a genius'

    What absolute buffonery.

    Also by the same rhetoric Homeopathy works because, in that mindset, correlation does equal causality (btw it totally doesn't).
    Other economic buffonery includes the trump tax cut caused the surge in the economy...

    It totally didn't, while it may have caused a rise in the Dow, this was due to a lot of companies (benefited by that high end tax cut) buying back their shares which is the equivalent of robbing Peter to pay Paul and staving off the inevitable crash


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,186 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    Many years ago the Democrats came to a fork in the road , well more of a junction with 3 paths available.

    1 path was the path of stasis, no change.
    2nd path was the path of American Patriotism.
    3rd path was the path of anti-America embrace for all things non-American and dengiration of America itself.

    They choose the 3rd path, they choose the path of denigration of America and all things American from the flag, the anthem thru to its economic foundations.

    This was a genius political move by Trump, especially in a week when 'The Squad (Omar,AOC,PResseley, Tlaib' attacks Pelosi and then the DNC and Pelosi attack 'The Squad' and later TRump defends Pelosi on that issue.

    TRump then goes on to drop a MOAB into their midst with his latest tweets .

    TRump has united the Democratic Party on that 3rd path and forced them to unite behind Illhan Omar and AOC. Trump has put Ilhan and AOC at the vanguard of the Democratic Party.
    There go many of the swing voters who whilst currently undecided would never vote for a Democratic Party being orchestrated by people who despise America.

    TRump has just made 2 of the most radical and polarising Dems, the face of the Democratic Party.
    Its a long term strategy like many Trump Administration strategies and will feed into a 2020 win for DT

    Why do you always write Trump as TRump?

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 136 ✭✭FartyBlartFast


    Tru p loves digging lower than he has before in social media to deflect attention from bad things going on around him. His racist tweets have me wondering if there is more to the Epstein connection than he wants to let on, unless I'm forgetting any other major negative news stories trun pwas involved in last week?


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