Why is breastfeeding in public acceptable?

ZilkyG

Neyite wrote: »

Every time I see a thread like this it reinforces my belief that the breastfeeding isn't the thing that outrages the male posters against it, it's the fact that the woman has dared to use her breasts for a purpose other than to give them a boner and their egos can't take that.

If you gathered that from my question, you have some sort of Freudian complex.

ZilkyG

amcalester wrote: »

They’re not really comparable.

But, playing your game I’d be more curious than anything else. I’d definitely have questions.

I probably wouldn’t order anything with honey in it though.

Why aren't they comparable, going on the argument that you have to look at neither?

Neyite

ZilkyG wrote: »

If you gathered that from my question, you have some sort of Freudian complex.

eh, the title of your thread is "Why is breastfeeding in public acceptable"

Gimme A Pound

If people feel a bit uncomfortable about the boob being completely out, I get that - but that doesn't happen. Breastfeeding mothers always cover their boob. I don't think they want their entire breast exposed either.

ZilkyG

Neyite wrote: »

eh, the title of your thread is "Why is breastfeeding in public acceptable"

Eh, and you gathered from the title that that it shouldn't be acceptable to breastfeed, according to me, because breasts should be reserved exclusively to give men boners. I mean, you're really filling in the gaps yourself here aren't you.

Gimme A Pound

ZilkyG wrote: »

Why aren't they comparable, going on the argument that you have to look at neither?

The more pertinent argument is that one is for providing sustenance to an infant.

ZilkyG

Gimme A Pound wrote: »

If people feel a bit uncomfortable about the boob being completely out, I get that - but that doesn't happen. Breastfeeding mothers always cover their boob. I don't think they want their entire breast exposed either.

Yes it does. I previously commented about using a scarf or something to cover themselves, which is fine. Exposing fully and breastfeeding in plain view in a restaurant is trashy, lazy and sloppy.

eviltwin

All you ever see is the top of the breast. The baby's head covers everything. You'd see more boob in a low cut top but no one wants to ban them.

Neyite hit the nail on the head, it's immature assholes who can't handle the notion that breasts have a function beyond getting them excited.

amcalester

ZilkyG wrote: »

Why aren't they comparable, going on the argument that you have to look at neither?

Using your words because one is extraordinary and the other isn’t.

Nothing extraordinary about a woman breastfeeding, despite your own particular hang ups.

eviltwin

ZilkyG wrote: »

Yes it does. I previously commented about using a scarf or something to cover themselves, which is fine. Exposing fully and breastfeeding in plain view in a restaurant is trashy, lazy and sloppy.

That doesn't happen. If it does its usually accidental and probably mortifying for the woman involved. Be a gentleman and don't stare, it makes you look like a creep.

ELM327

breastfeeding in public should be outlawed unless the woman is ugly or old.
It's very difficult for men in the surrounding vicinity to conceal an ensuing erection.

Sabre0001

Babies **** in public too OP. Maybe you should have a word with them

sbsquarepants

ZilkyG wrote: »

Genuine question. This seems to be all the rage now, and the argument for it, is that it's completely natural! Well so is ****ting, yet society dictates that we must withdraw to the shadows for something so 'natural'.

The quality of trolling has really gone down hill.

Shítting in public is a clear and obvious health hazard - feeding a baby is not!

If you become enraged with lust / frustration at the mere glimpse of a tit then maybe the problem lies within you more than it does with society at large.

joe40

I would love to know why the op finds breastfeeding distasteful, to such an extent that it should not be done in public.
What is the problem.

I know this thread is a wind up, the fact that there will be no one adopting the same position as the OP will back this up. Just looking for attention..

D3V!L

I love boobs as much as the next man but I think the sight of a baby being breast fed is beautiful is other ways than sexual. Its the most natural thing a woman can do.

fryup

new age hippies are always at it....i once saw one giving her twins a feed simultaneously, no BS!

sydthebeat

this thread screams "mommy issues"

sbsquarepants

ZilkyG wrote: »

because breasts should be reserved exclusively to give men boners. I mean, you're really filling in the gaps yourself here aren't you.

I occasionally fill the gap between my missus's with my boner. Good times are to be had like this ZilkyG, you should give it a bash....should you ever get closer to a pair of tits than across a crowded restaurant that is;)

ELM327

D3V!L wrote: »

I love boobs as much as the next man but I think the sight of a baby being breast fed is beautiful is other ways than sexual. Its the most natural thing a woman can do.

Yes but I think all forms of public breast feeding should be allowed.
Including as part of kink

Deebles McBeebles

ELM327 wrote: »

Yes but I think all forms of public breast feeding should be allowed.
Including as part of kink

Why bother covering them at all? I for one, welcome our new boob overlords.

Deebles McBeebles

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

Why bother covering them at all? I for one, welcome our new boob overlords.

Oh mammary-a give it tooo meeeeeee

gibgodsman

To be fair, its good for the baby, and the lads who get to see the tiddy, win win

ohnonotgmail

sydthebeat wrote: »

though you had to be over 16 to have a boards.ie account.......

that applies to a posters physical age, not mental.

gibgodsman

Capsicummalta wrote: »

With most men being addicted to porn I doubt very much they feel any sort of arousal at the sight of a breast, they're far too desensitized.

I like me some porn, but I also like me some tiddy, you don't get desensitized to tiddys

sydthebeat

Capsicummalta wrote: »

the OP who has been nothing but civil and courteous.

hummmmm :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

ZilkyG wrote:

Your mommy has issues. She told me them last night after I ploughed her.

first post of a new account is to come on and defend the obvious trolling OP

poor effort.... you need to be more subtle

Deebles McBeebles

Capsicummalta wrote: »

With most men being addicted to porn I doubt very much they feel any sort of arousal at the sight of a breast, they're far too desensitized.

Unless she's dressed in a leather cat suit and is hitting a lad in the balls with a high heel, doesn't do anything for me.

Hedgelayer

Capsicummalta wrote: »

With most men being addicted to porn I doubt very much they feel any sort of arousal at the sight of a breast, they're far too desensitized.

Most men addicted to porn, fact's and figures please..

amcalester

Capsicummalta wrote: »

I don't see any issue with women breastfeeding in public.

What I find astonishing is the hostility and abuse being directed at the OP who has been nothing but civil and courteous. Some people need to understand that it's ok to have different opinions. I doubt very much there are men who's egos are bruised by seeing a woman breastfeed as I one poster suggested, I think some men just find it to be disgusting, therefore they think it should be done in public. Others think it's beautiful, people have different opinions and reactions to events, imagine that.

Also, it can be quite interesting to note the double standards, so it can be interesting to discuss. For example should it be acceptable to be naked in public, as people can look away which is a similar argument applied to breastfeeding.

ohnonotgmail

gibgodsman wrote: »

I like me some porn, but I also like me some tiddy, you don't get desensitized to tiddys

whence tiddys? it is titties or diddies.

joe40

Capsicummalta wrote: »

With most men being addicted to porn I doubt very much they feel any sort of arousal at the sight of a breast, they're far too desensitized.

That's quite a statement. I'm not sure about by addicted to porn, but I did see a survey which found that 97% of men watch porn and 3% tell lies

Sesame

I'm sitting here with my third child having breakfast boob finding the responses hilarious.

I've breastfed all 3 of my children, but it's only this time I am seeing breastfeeding becoming more commonplace in public. Maybe people are realising the benefits and that it's not such a big deal and ever time a potential mother sees another doing it, it normalises it.

Nice to see though and it must p**s off the formula companies who seem to be pushing the ads, baby clubs, and merchandise more than ever lately to get sales. They spend an absolute fortune on marketing which is why baby formula is so expensive.

One eyed Jack

[Deleted User] wrote: »

This is up there with the guy who can not stand to watch two gay people holding hands in a restaurant without calling the staff to intervene. No on in a restaurant "has" to watch anything. If you choose to go to a restaurant then you are choosing to eat with the public - and anything they do. In fairness in some of my restaurant experiences seeing a baby feed would be much preferable to how some of the adults do.

If you do not want to watch people breast feed in a restaurant do not go to a restaurant. If you do not want to see obese people squeezed into lycra getting off bikes then probably do not eat or drink in an outdoor Beer Garden. I do not tend to want to watch spotty teenagers take enormous handfuls of popcorn and insert them into their mouth in one lump. I realise if I _choose_ to go to a cinema in the afternoon - I will likely see just that. My problem - not theirs.

What you "have" to see is your call. Not theirs. Your problem. Not theirs.

You’re milking that one for all it’s worth tax :pac:

It was the wider issue I have with public displays of affection. The subject of the thread happened to be concerned with two gay men in a restaurant engaged in their public displays of affection. Trying to suggest my position was motivated by homophobia is just dishonest on your part.

I have always acknowledged that it is my issue, and I outlined the approach I would take to resolve it. If adults in a restaurant want to behave like teenagers in Supermacs, I have every right to make a complaint to the management of the establishment that they are spoiling my dining experience.

For what it’s worth as far as the subject of this thread is concerned (for however long it lasts), I have never had an issue with a women breastfeeding in public, and when I worked in Supermacs many years ago I would always ensure that they and their child were given every assistance to do so. As it happens, the sight of a woman breastfeeding tended to put teenagers right off their public displays of affection.

Hedgelayer

Hedgelayer wrote: »

Most men addicted to porn, fact's and figures please..

I am going to throw out a guess as to where a new member to the forum might go with that.

You see we all need to give up porn - subscribe to the NoFap movement - and meet real women. For which there is - conveniently enough - a list of PUA you tube videos to hand to help you do just that?

Gimme A Pound

Capsicummalta wrote: »

I don't see any issue with women breastfeeding in public.

What I find astonishing is the hostility and abuse being directed at the OP who has been nothing but civil and courteous. Some people need to understand that it's ok to have different opinions. I doubt very much there are men who's egos are bruised by seeing a woman breastfeed as I one poster suggested, I think some men just find it to be disgusting, therefore they think it should be done in public. Others think it's beautiful, people have different opinions and reactions to events, imagine that.

Also, it can be quite interesting to note the double standards, so it can be interesting to discuss. For example should it be acceptable to be naked in public, as people can look away which is a similar argument applied to breastfeeding.

"Why is breastfeeding in public acceptable?" - yeah nothing but pure intentions by the OP.

Anyone who finds it "disgusting" needs to reassess things. The woman is covering her breast anyway.

Focus on "just look away" is clutching at straws. The crux of the matter is that it is necessary to feed a baby. "Look away" is just to supplement that.

Being naked in public (outside of nudist zones) is not necessary and it doesn't feed a baby and is an offence.

OMM 0000

ZilkyG wrote: »

Genuine question. This seems to be all the rage now, and the argument for it, is that it's completely natural! Well so is ****ting, yet society dictates that we must withdraw to the shadows for something so 'natural'.

If you don't think about it in a black and white way, then it becomes easy to see why one is acceptable and one isn't, even though they're both "natural".

****ting is unhygienic and spreads disease, whereas breast feeding is harmless.

If you want to change your question to something like "why is it legal for men to walk around topless, but not women", then I think you'd have a more reasonable point.

One eyed Jack

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Trying to suggest my position was motivated by homophobia is just dishonest on your part.

Who mentioned homophobia? I didn't. I just accurately described a conversation that was once had by people on boards. I had forgotten who to be honest. No more than that. You brought the rest into it not me. I said nothing of motivations. You did.

One eyed Jack wrote: »

I have always acknowledged that it is my issue

That is the point I was making yes - hence the comparison. For the most part when someone has an issue with the activities of others in a place like a cafe or restaurant - the issue is theirs. Not the people engaged in the activities.

There are some people - thankfully few - who feel they deserve to be protected from their own issues. That the people breast feeding or holding hands need to be moved - asked to stop - or even asked to leave.

But for the most part that is not so - or at least should not be so. As I said I am disgusted by the sight of unwashed greasy spotty teens fitting as much popcorn as they can into their hand - and then trying to fit all of it into their face in one go.

I realise that is my problem. I realise if I go to a cinema - especially before water shed - I am likely to see it. I realise it is absurd of me to call the staff and ask them to get the person offending me to move or leave or alter that behaviour.

Would that certain people I could name - the OP among them - realised that too.

One eyed Jack wrote: »

If adults in a restaurant want to behave like teenagers in Supermacs

They aren't - that is just your spin on it. They are both doing the same thing - that does not mean one is "acting like" the other and more than teens walking into supermacs on their legs - and me walking into a restaurant on my legs - means I am acting like teens in supermacs either.

Many people from many groups happen to do the same things. The "One is acting like the other" schtick is just spin you are putting on it.

Hedgelayer

I can see this thread going tits up

Hedgelayer

Hedgelayer wrote: »

I can see this thread going tits up

Yeah I was wondering why the mods didn't nipple it in the buds.

El_Duderino 09

ZilkyG wrote: »

Genuine question. This seems to be all the rage now, and the argument for it, is that it's completely natural! Well so is ****ting, yet society dictates that we must withdraw to the shadows for something so 'natural'.

Yeah sh1tting is natural. But it also has hygiene issues and has an unpleasant smell. So you could breastfeed in a public place like a restaurant without any problem, but you couldn’t sh1t in a restaurant without problems. Hope this clears it up.

myshirt

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yeah I was wondering why the mods didn't nipple it in the buds.

The mods will be marching in here two abreast before you know it.

myshirt

myshirt wrote: »

The mods will be marching in here two abreast before you know it.

Maybe ever 12 of them even? Sounds mad dozen tit?

Sorry I am milking this now. I have no idea what the Quan-titties will be.

One eyed Jack

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Who mentioned homophobia? I didn't. I just accurately described a conversation that was once had by people on boards. I had forgotten who to be honest. No more than that. You brought the rest into it not me. I said nothing of motivations. You did.

That is the point I was making yes - hence the comparison. For the most part when someone has an issue with the activities of others in a place like a cafe or restaurant - the issue is theirs. Not the people engaged in the activities.

There are some people - thankfully few - who feel they deserve to be protected from their own issues. That the people breast feeding or holding hands need to be moved - asked to stop - or even asked to leave.

But for the most part that is not so - or at least should not be so. As I said I am disgusted by the sight of unwashed greasy spotty teens fitting as much popcorn as they can into their hand - and then trying to fit all of it into their face in one go.

I realise that is my problem. I realise if I go to a cinema - especially before water shed - I am likely to see it. I realise it is absurd of me to call the staff and ask them to get the person offending me to move or leave or alter that behaviour.

Would that certain people I could name - the OP among them - realised that too.

They aren't - that is just your spin on it. They are both doing the same thing - that does not mean one is "acting like" the other and more than teens walking into supermacs on their legs - and me walking into a restaurant on my legs - means I am acting like teens in supermacs either.

Many people from many groups happen to do the same things. The "One is acting like the other" schtick is just spin you are putting on it.

And you can spin it whatever way you like and all, people are entitled to complain when they are not receiving a standard of service they expect be it from a restaurant or from the cinema or any other establishment. You think it’s absurd that people expect management to address the issue that’s causing them discomfort. I would call it customer service.

myshirt

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Maybe ever 12 of them even? Sounds mad dozen tit?

Sorry I am milking this now.

With great boobs comes great responsibility. Or should I say responsibilititty.

ohnonotgmail

One eyed Jack wrote: »

And you can spin it whatever way you like and all, people are entitled to complain when they are not receiving a standard of service they expect be it from a restaurant or from the cinema or any other establishment. You think it’s absurd that people expect management to address the issue that’s causing them discomfort. I would call it customer service.

I think it is absurd that you would expect management to ask two people to stop holding hands.

EmmetSpiceland

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

I think it is absurd that you would expect management to ask two people to stop holding hands.

Don’t misrepresent him there, it’s only the gay people holding hands he’s got an issue with.

One eyed Jack

One eyed Jack wrote: »

And you can spin it whatever way you like and all, people are entitled to complain

I would never claim otherwise - nor did I. You or anyone can complain all you want. That does not mean your complaint is well founded or justified however. That is what I would be commenting on - nothing to do with your entitlements to complain at all.

The spin is all yours really such as - as I pointed out - taking two groups doing the same thing and putting a "A is acting like B" spin on it.

One eyed Jack wrote: »

You think it’s absurd that people expect management to address the issue that’s causing them discomfort.

Conversation probably more productive if I tell _you_ what I think rather than you telling me what I think.

What I think is that whether it is absurd or not is _entirely_ dependent on whether what they are _actually_ complaining about is absurd or not. Nothing to do with them complaining in general about an issue that is causing them discomfort - that is ok with me as a concept - it is specifically _what_ The issue is that would indicate the absurdity levels.

Going to a place where people eat - and complaining because the baby is eating - that is in the absurdity bracket for me.

Going to a place strongly associated with romance - and complaining because people there are displaying affection - yup same bracket.

Going to a place where people eat enormous quantities of popcorn - and complaining because people there are doing so - I would be right there in that bracket too.

Going to a place frequented by cyclists and moaning that the obese people look disgusting squeezed into lyrca - I would consider myself absurd for that too.

The list goes on.

amcalester

One eyed Jack wrote: »

And you can spin it whatever way you like and all, people are entitled to complain when they are not receiving a standard of service they expect be it from a restaurant or from the cinema or any other establishment. You think it’s absurd that people expect management to address the issue that’s causing them discomfort. I would call it customer service.

The standard of service doesn't extend to patrons going about their business in a way that most people would not find offensive.

I've worked in a few bars, restaurants and hotels during my 20's and if a customer complained about a woman breastfeeding or 2 men holding hands, that customer would be told the issue is theirs and if they want to leave over it I understood.

myshirt

myshirt wrote: »

With great boobs comes great responsibility.

Ok that one was a bit forced I bet you can do better. Save the breast till last and all that?

Rack them up!

One eyed Jack

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

I think it is absurd that you would expect management to ask two people to stop holding hands.

I think it’s absurd that adults feel a need to hold hands in public, different standards is all. If an establishment chooses not to take my complaint seriously (hasn’t happened yet to be fair), then I would simply refuse to give them my business.

Their restaurant, their rules of course. I don’t expect that I should be able to go into a vegan restaurant and expect the management to order their staff to bring me a meat dish. That being said, I’ve never been in a vegan restaurant so I don’t even know would they do that. It would be expecting a bit much I think.

But adults behaving like teenagers when I’m trying to enjoy my food having paid for the experience I expect, I’m entitled to complain when that experience is below my expectations.

ohnonotgmail

One eyed Jack wrote: »

I think it’s absurd that adults feel a need to hold hands in public, different standards is all. If an establishment chooses not to take my complaint seriously (hasn’t happened yet to be fair), then I would simply refuse to give them my business.

Their restaurant, their rules of course. I don’t expect that I should be able to go into a vegan restaurant and expect the management to order their staff to bring me a meat dish. That being said, I’ve never been in a vegan restaurant so I don’t even know would they do that. It would be expecting a bit much I think.

But adults behaving like teenagers when I’m trying to enjoy my food having paid for the experience I expect, I’m entitled to complain when that experience is below my expectations.

Of course you are entitled to complain. and the people you are complaining about are just as entitled to tell you to do one.