Drink driving? Is it really that bad?

Crock Rock

I live rurally, last night my friend had 3 and a half pints and my friend had 11 and he drove us home. I got there in one piece and so did he.


The new limits are stupid and overrestrictive. No one crashed after 3 or 4 pints. Let's restore the old limit of 0.08 %.


Discuss.

dobman88

Hi Danny, welcome to Boards. Nice to see they rolled out the rural broadband to Kilgarvan

Atoms for Peace

I had 13 pints last night and drove home.

amcalester

Drivers should be breathalyzed on their test and whatever their BAC is they should be allowed drive below that limit forever more.

Timberrrrrrrr

Crock Rock wrote: »

I live rurally, last night my friend had 3 and a half pints and my friend had 11 and he drove us home. I got there in one piece This time and so did he.


The new limits are stupid and overrestrictive. No one crashed after 3 or 4 pints. Let's restore the old limit of 0.08 %.


Discuss.

Fixed that for you.

rd1izb7lvpuksx

Is would be interesting to get a breakdown of accidents by BAC. I've always wondered how many accidents were caused by drivers in the 0.05-0.08% range, and whether it justified the lower limits. As the RSA hasn't released this information, a suspicious person might think that the legislation is not evidence-based.

_blaaz

11 pints seems excessive....most people prob be ok to drive slowly with 3 to 4 pints (i wouldnt,wicked lightweight,but depends on person i guess)

decky1

Ah lads give it up [drink driving] you'll ruin someones life or your own, you can't be lucky all the time.

biko

If I have to drive after more than 7 pints I take some cocaine, it wakes me up.

branie2

It is

Nobelium

Speed kills, speed and drink definitely kills

Your Face

If acceptable, Id like to tack on an anti-immigration rant to this thread.

Febreeze

Say all that in court after someone got knocked down and potentionally killed. See how the judge reacts and then you'll know why these rules are set in place.

Andrew00

I could drive after 8 or 9 pints still but never have

Absolute nanny state we live in u can't even have 1 and ur pulled the next morning

Andrew00

Andrew00 wrote: »

I could drive after 8 or 9 pints still.

Absolute nanny state we live in u can't even have 1 and ur pulled the next morning

You'd want to get real. You might have little regard for your own safety, but don't needlessly endanger others.

Timberrrrrrrr

Andrew00 wrote: »

I could drive after 8 or 9 pints still.

Absolute nanny state we live in u can't even have 1 and ur pulled the next morning

Yes, you could drive after 8 or 9 pints.

The issue is you wouldn't be able to drive safely and you would be a hazard to yourself and others!

Snotty

When I was drinking regularly, 3 or 4 pints and I'd be fine to drive, but I wouldn't have.
Now, 3 or 4 pints and I wouldn't be anywhere close to safe to drive.
Assuming I have the same blood alcohol level then and now, I can see why really low levels are required as you can't legislate for different people

Collie D

Crock Rock wrote: »

I live rurally, last night my friend had 3 and a half pints and my friend had 11 and he drove us home. I got there in one piece and so did he.


The new limits are stupid and overrestrictive. No one crashed after 3 or 4 pints. Let's restore the old limit of 0.08 %.


Discuss.

The other friend not make it?

decky1

People think that drink driving is a joke and makes them the big guy if the get away with it[some here] it's someone's life your ruining and their family's as well, can you face everyday knowing you've killed on maimed someone, well worth a second thought before you do it.

Immortal Starlight

Anyone who thinks it’s ok to drink and drive has obviously never been at the scene of an accident caused by a drink driver. Maybe if they saw a woman trapped in her car screaming because her arm has been almost ripped off and is hanging on by a piece of muscle they just might change their mind. An ambulance takes a very long time to arrive and there’s nothing anyone can do.

Nobelium

Andrew00 wrote: »

I could drive after 8 or 9 pints still.

Absolute nanny state we live in u can't even have 1 and ur pulled the next morning

problem is the public road doesn't belong to you, it's also being used by those you think it's ok to kill and mame

Edgware

The graveyards of this country all have graves of people who thought they were "fine" to drive or their victims. The Guards dont hammer half enough of them. I came across a Garda checkpoint outside Mallow Friday night. Told them I was delighted to see them out

branie2

I hope they were pleased to hear that

Collie D

Edgware wrote: »

The graveyards of this country all have graves of people who thought they were "fine" to drive or their victims. The Guards dont hammer half enough of them. I came across a Garda checkpoint outside Mallow Friday night. Told them I was delighted to see them out

Ah, but sure that’s only a money making scheme or something.

Anyone who drives home after 8/9 pints is a crap human. And it’s not a Dublin v Rural thing. It’s a decent person v scumbag thing.

Only an absolute ***t drinks and drives these days.

Clareman

Driving with any kind of impairment carries a lot of risk and can result in death. that might be having drink taken, taking on the phone, texting, checking facebook, doing your makeup, being distracted by kids, not wearing a seatbelt, driving like a dick or whatever. You might get away with it 99 times out of a 100 but that 1 time can ruin your or someone else's life, why take the risk???

Sam Quentin

Never mind drink driving,.they should ban alcohol altogether and introduce prohibition...

AudreyHepburn

To me drink driving is one of the most selfish and stupid things you could do right up there with driving under the influence of drugs or whilst looking at your phone.

It’s bad enough that the OP has scant regard for his own safety but to turn a blind to the safety of other road users - how selfish can you be?

decky1

Sam Quentin wrote: »

Never mind drink driving,.they should ban alcohol altogether and introduce prohibition...

NOooooooo:(

decky1

decky1 wrote: »

Ah lads give it up [drink driving] you'll ruin someones life or your own, you can't be lucky all the time.

Yeah, making light of drink driving is "fun" apparently in the stupid culture of romanticising alcohol which still exists in nether regions of Ireland and of After Hours in 2019.

People who have an alcohol/drug problem and have the strength of character to sort it out before they destroy any more lives have my deepest respect. However, I've zero tolerance for the "Isn't drinking loads of alcohol so cool" cúnts who endanger other lives. Likewise for the people who entertain their sob stories after they are brought to court for killing innocent people. There have been so, so many examples of drink drivers killing people in recent years nobody can claim ignorance. Like 4-year-old Ciarán Treacy in Port Laoise in 2014 killed by somebody who got in his car after drinking 8-10 pints of cider. He got 6 years in prison for what he did to that family. He's probably free now.

Alcohol is a factor in 38% of fatal crashes, and any amount of it impairs driving and increases the risk of a collision. This is not an opinion, it’s a scientific fact.... An average of 180 drivers were arrested each week in 2017 on suspicion of driving under the influence, while enforcement statistics for the first nine months of 2018 show more than 6,562 motorists arrested for driving under the influence.(Source: Drink driving in Ireland (2018))

LirW

My dad and his best friend were hit by a drunk driver, they were pedestrians. My dad was in hospital for 2 months because his liver had a tear and his friend died on the scene.
So no, I don't think it is even remotely cool.

If you wanna go have drinks with your friends designate a driver and have a rotation.

Nobelium

There's a huge emphasis on anti drink driving, which is good, but next to none on drug driving.

Andrew00

You'd see some of the aul lads nowadays driving home in the tractor or car after 13 or 14 pints in the local rural pub. Shocking stuff all together

Nobelium

Andrew00 wrote: »

You'd see some of the aul lads nowadays driving home in the tractor or car after 13 or 14 pints in the local rural pub. Shocking stuff all together

13 or 14, surely auld lads drink 23 or 24 ?

Timberrrrrrrr

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Yes, you could drive after 8 or 9 pints.

The issue is you wouldn't be able to drive safely and you would be a hazard to yourself and others!

Never mind himself. Let all these "people who are fond of the drink" (usually known as 'alcoholics' outside Ireland) do what they like to themselves in the privacy of their own homes. "Free choice" and all that. Just protect the rest of us from their exercise of that "free choice".

Timberrrrrrrr

Andrew00 wrote: »

You'd see some of the aul lads nowadays driving home in the tractor or car after 13 or 14 pints in the local rural pub. Shocking stuff all together

Hopefully when they do have an accident they are the only ones to get injured/killed

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Drink driving is idiotic. There's no excuse for it.

I am not sure what you would call somebody who drinks and drives, then boasts about it.

People killing themselves on the roads while drunk, zero pity. However, that's not a guarantee and the same scumbag will kill innocent people going about their daily lives.

LirW

Nobelium wrote: »

There's a huge emphasis on anti drink driving, which is good, but next to none on drug driving.

This is true, especially when it comes to medication making people drowsy. That's no joke either.
Some probably comes from the expectation that people have to be in work under all circumstances which forces people taking their meds I order to make it through the day if they feel crap.

dxhound2005

Clareman wrote: »

Driving with any kind of impairment carries a lot of risk and can result in death. that might be having drink taken, taking on the phone, texting, checking facebook, doing your makeup, being distracted by kids, not wearing a seatbelt, driving like a dick or whatever. You might get away with it 99 times out of a 100 but that 1 time can ruin your or someone else's life, why take the risk???

When you stop texting or doing make up you will be fit to drive. Stupid things to do and probably illegal and they cause accidents. But not the same as being impaired from alcohol.

Dohnjoe

Andrew00 wrote: »

I could drive after 8 or 9 pints still.

Absolute nanny state we live in u can't even have 1 and ur pulled the next morning

Cool, if it's a choice, I'll happily go with the nanny state thanks

BlackandGreen

Drink driving: No unless you have 1 pint and wait at least 90 minutes before driving.
I've rank on 5 pints before. Around a town, went into a mcdonalds drive thru, garda car followed me around the ring road but didn't stop me. Doubt they noticed anything.
Not proud of that.


Driving after smoking weed: Grand unless you're absolutely blazed.

Panthro

Ara I'd have about 45 pints in 2 hours.

biko

BlackandGreen wrote: »

Driving after smoking weed: Grand unless you're absolutely blazed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw1HavgoK9E

i love going around trying to kill people when drunk
it makes me really cool and anti establishment

Strumms

Problem is, if you are allowed say one pint, it will encourage people to head to the pub with the car, having every intention of having just the ‘one’. The difficulty is when knucklehead mates are buying another one, encouraging you ‘sure you’ll be grand, two pints over two hours will you come on!’ You go for a hit and miss and some other twat is throwing a vodka into that second pint, acting the maggot then on the way home when you are driving, visibility isn’t great, roads slippy, the drinkers acting the maggot with you from the back... it’s just not a good mix.


Drinking, leave the car at home.

Dohnjoe

bluewolf wrote: »

i love going around trying to kill people when drunk
it makes me really cool and anti establishment

You forget edgy

The key to being really edgy is come up with something along the lines of "hey man, drink-driving isn't so bad", oohh

TCM

Anyone caught driving after drinking 11 pints should be given a substantial jail sentence.

dxhound2005

If I had 10 pints, I would have a certain type of drunkenness after 3 or 4. If I still had the equivalent of 3 or 4 in my system the next day, it would not feel like the same sort of drunkenness. Science and research probably says both are equally impairing for driving?

I have the impression that the Gardai started checking drivers outside Sunday Mass for a while, to have a go at the politicians who brought in the new limits. It will probably not be sustained

Odyssey 2005

Deedsie wrote: »

Young lad killed in a crash just outside Nenagh last night. <snip>. RIP. But drink driving isnt that bad apparently.

Beyond stupid thing to do.

Says nothing about driver being intoxicated in the papers. Doubt if he was it would have been released yet,yet you say he was. Have you a source in the morgue ?

Only time I've ever driven after drink was when I had 2 pints over about 3 hours so would have been under the limit in the North. Was driving back and it started spitting rain and I was trying to figure out if I had a chip on the windscreen. Pulled over a couple of minutes later for food and couple of smokes before setting off again. Not worth it.

Strumms

Strumms wrote: »

Problem is, if you are allowed say one pint, it will encourage people to head to the pub with the car, having every intention of having just the ‘one’. The difficulty is when knucklehead mates are buying another one, encouraging you ‘sure you’ll be grand, two pints over two hours will you come on!’ You go for a hit and miss and some other twat is throwing a vodka into that second pint, acting the maggot then on the way home when you are driving, visibility isn’t great, roads slippy, the drinkers acting the maggot with you from the back... it’s just not a good mix.


Drinking, leave the car at home.

You are allowed one pint, most people would be unlucky to be over the limit after two in reality if they spend any time drinking them at all. Many could even drink 3 over a few hours and be under.

The rule change was idiotic, limit should have been left at 80, even worse it’s now a ban over 50. Absolutely nobody with 2 or 3 pints is causing any danger on the roads and the outrage by many is silly really. A man should be allowed to have his 2 or 3 pints and drive home (everyone is at it anyway out my part of the county anyway) and let the guards worry about catching the people driving after 10+ pints or committing actual crimes.