Antifa [Mod Warning on post #1 - updated 08/08/19]

Blueshoe

Brian? wrote: »

I’m not defending their use of violence, ever. It’s wrong.

I’m also not attacking anyone. I’m curious, as I said, as to why people keep attacking Others for their perceived lack of “manliness”. Why is it so common?

Elements in both sides are there to fight. We all know it. Both sides come armed and goad each other.
Turning up masked and ready to rumble.

Positioning people in wheelchairs at the front is hardly a good idea.

Blueshoe

OMM 0000 wrote: »

Let me give some examples of extremists:

The IRA

Al Qaeda

Antifa

Black Lives Matter

The Alt-Right (actually alt-right, not just people on the right)

Neo-Nazis

Nazis

Which of these groups are "reasonable" in your opinion?

The IRA when they were fighting against British military. Long long ago

Brian?

OMM 0000 wrote: »

Let me give some examples of extremists:

The IRA

Al Qaeda

Antifa

Black Lives Matter

The Alt-Right (actually alt-right, not just people on the right)

Neo-Nazis

Nazis

Which of these groups are "reasonable" in your opinion?

I’m not talking about entire groups you are. I’m talking about reasonable individuals. You’re just proving my point here. You’re picking groups and assuming the entire membership is unreasonable.

Brian?

Blueshoe wrote: »

Elements in both sides are there to fight. We all know it. Both sides come armed and goad each other.
Turning up masked and ready to rumble.

Positioning people in wheelchairs at the front is hardly a good idea.

Agreed.

20Cent

Proud boys say they want to march again next month.
How many times do these fools have to be told to f off.

OMM 0000

Brian? wrote: »

I’m not talking about entire groups you are. I’m talking about reasonable individuals. You’re just proving my point here. You’re picking groups and assuming the entire membership is unreasonable.

Just so we're clear:

You think some neo-nazis are reasonable and it's "lazy" (your words) to describe them as unreasonable extremists?

Blueshoe

20Cent wrote: »

Proud boys say they want to march again next month.
How many times do these fools have to be told to f off.

They should march weekly

Brian?

OMM 0000 wrote: »

Just so we're clear:

You think some neo-nazis are reasonable and it's "lazy" (your words) to describe them as unreasonable extremists?

I think some neo Nazis could be reasonable people, But I could be wrong.

Just so we’re clear:

You’re happy to label everyone who joins an Antifa protest unreasonable.

OMM 0000

Brian? wrote: »

I think some neo Nazis could be reasonable people, But I could be wrong.

Just so we’re clear:

You’re happy to label everyone who joins an Antifa protest unreasonable.

One of the issues with the left (I think this is their main problem) is they tend not to think things through.

So I'm absolutely certain some people hear "anti-fascist" and take that at face value, and go along to an antifa march. What they don't realise is antifa have little or nothing to do with anti-fascism.

I don't believe any reasonable person becomes a neo-nazi. I don't think you believe that either...

Anyway let's not keep talking about this.

20Cent

Marvel should make a series about these guys kicking nazi ass.

https://twitter.com/ViperMinion/status/1163079483068489729?s=19

20Cent

And the Spartan guy has White Pride tattooed on his back.



https://twitter.com/DavidNeiwert/status/1162962426234454019?s=19

Sonny noggs

At least the 3 at the front aren’t afraid to show their faces, unlike all the rest.

SnakePlissken

20Cent wrote: »

And the Spartan guy has White Pride tattooed on his back.



https://twitter.com/DavidNeiwert/status/1162962426234454019?s=19

And? Would you be happier if his tattoo read "White Shame"? Being proud of your race doesn't necessarily suggest you believe your race to be superior. MMA fighter Cain Velasquez has "Brown Pride" tattooed on his chest, is he racist? What about those who march in Black Pride events, are they all racist? I know it doesn't fall align with Antifa's narrative, but it is still okay to be white.

MarquisDeSad

SnakePlissken wrote: »

And? Would you be happier if his tattoo read "White Shame"? Being proud of your race doesn't necessarily suggest you believe your race to be superior. MMA fighter Cain Velasquez has "Brown Pride" tattooed on his chest, is he racist? What about those who march in Black Pride events, are they all racist? I know it doesn't fall align with Antifa's narrative, but it is still okay to be white.

Jaysus. This post is embarrassing.

p1akuw47h5r3it

SnakePlissken wrote: »

And? Would you be happier if his tattoo read "White Shame"? Being proud of your race doesn't necessarily suggest you believe your race to be superior. MMA fighter Cain Velasquez has "Brown Pride" tattooed on his chest, is he racist? What about those who march in Black Pride events, are they all racist? I know it doesn't fall align with Antifa's narrative, but it is still okay to be white.

I find it strange that some people are proud of their race all the same, regardless if they're black or white.

batgoat

SnakePlissken wrote: »

And? Would you be happier if his tattoo read "White Shame"? Being proud of your race doesn't necessarily suggest you believe your race to be superior. MMA fighter Cain Velasquez has "Brown Pride" tattooed on his chest, is he racist? What about those who march in Black Pride events, are they all racist? I know it doesn't fall align with Antifa's narrative, but it is still okay to be white.

And the term "white pride" tends to relate to white supremacy or white Nationalism. "Brown/black pride" etc tends to have more to do with overcoming subjugation and what was a huge human rights struggle. Also a celebration of culture.

It's a bit like the people who say "where are our straight pride parades?". Not very subtle bigots.

20Cent

Bloke dressed ass Spartan with white pride tattoos swinging a shield at antifascists.

Centerist.
Maybe he's just proud of his melanin count we could meet him halfway and discuss our politics.

MarquisDeSad

batgoat wrote: »

And the term "white pride" tends to relate to white supremacy or white Nationalism. "Brown/black pride" etc tends to have more to do with overcoming subjugation and what was a huge human rights struggle. Also a celebration of culture.

It's a bit like the people who say "where are our straight pride parades?". Not very subtle bigots.

Utterly Baffling post from snake. Completely ignorant to the United States history.

SnakePlissken

MarquisDeSad wrote: »

Jaysus. This post is embarrassing.

That you believe I care about your opinion is embarrassing.

SnakePlissken

DanDan6592 wrote: »

SnakePlissken wrote: »

And? Would you be happier if his tattoo read "White Shame"? Being proud of your race doesn't necessarily suggest you believe your race to be superior. MMA fighter Cain Velasquez has "Brown Pride" tattooed on his chest, is he racist? What about those who march in Black Pride events, are they all racist? I know it doesn't fall align with Antifa's narrative, but it is still okay to be white.

I find it strange that some people are proud of their race all the same, regardless if they're black or white.

As do I, I'm merely pointing out the obvious truth that one can be proud of their race without them necessarily being racist.

MarquisDeSad

SnakePlissken wrote: »

That you believe I care about your opinion is embarrassing.

Well not having a basic grasp of American history is embarrassing. Go you.

Eric Cartman

batgoat wrote: »

And the term "white pride" tends to relate to white supremacy or white Nationalism. "Brown/black pride" etc tends to have more to do with overcoming subjugation and what was a huge human rights struggle. Also a celebration of culture.

It's a bit like the people who say "where are our straight pride parades?". Not very subtle bigots.

neither of those statements are biggoted and the direct definition isn't either, they do however get co-opted by biggots.

SnakePlissken

MarquisDeSad wrote: »

SnakePlissken wrote: »

That you believe I care about your opinion is embarrassing.

Well not having a basic grasp of American history is embarrassing. Go you.

Perhaps instead of infantile ad hominems, you might attempt to educate me, how does my opinion that being proud of one's race, displays ignorance to American History? Am I to presume you believe white people should not display pride for their race due to the historic subjugation of African Americans?

MarquisDeSad

SnakePlissken wrote: »

Perhaps instead of infantile ad hominems, you might attempt to educate me, how does my opinion that being proud of one's race, displays ignorance to American History? Am I to presume you believe white people should not display pride for their race due to the historic subjugation of African Americans?

Yes your basic understanding of American history is lacking. I'm not going to argue with you on the stupid premise that the fella who got the tattoo, did it for innocent reasons. Why would anybody?,its simply embarrassing given that he's attending a far right rally.

So yes my point still stands. Your post is embarrassing.

Blueshoe

https://youtu.be/HKCfu4UJQiQ

Could be worse. We could all live in Los Angeles

SnakePlissken

MarquisDeSad wrote: »

Yes your basic understanding of American history is lacking.

Excellent debating style, you've left me absolutely heartbroken that my ignorance has been so comprehensively exposed with your incredible informed post, I may not sleep tonight I'm so appalled and embarresed to have failed your honourable critique.

SnakePlissken

batgoat wrote: »

And the term "white pride" tends to relate to white supremacy or white Nationalism. "Brown/black pride" etc tends to have more to do with overcoming subjugation and what was a huge human rights struggle. Also a celebration of culture.
.

So just to be clear, you prescribe to the view that to be proud to be white is bad, but pride to be brown/black is something to be celebrated? Such an arbitrary rule sounds kind of racist to me.

mynamejeff

MarquisDeSad wrote: »

Jaysus. This post is embarrassing.

re reg poster makes snarky comment because they cant point out the actual problem with the post .

it just feels wrong to the far left carbon copy opinion that has been created fro them ,

next time you re reg get your own opinion with it will ya , theres enough libtardbots here already

Tony EH

Why should anybody be "proud" of an accident of birth?

20Cent

See yer man called himself Based Spartan.
His new nickname is not so cool, Cucked Spartan.
After he was chased away and had a hissy fit.