Antifa [Mod Warning on post #1 - updated 08/08/19]

_blaaz

Venom wrote: »

You mean the Irish patriots who were quite happy to jump into bed with the Nazis?


https://www.historyireland.com/20th-century-contemporary-history/new-evidence-on-iranazi-links/

Naw.mate im on about those killed fighting facism in spain... those killed or done killing in attacks on blueshirts and helped spirit away people to america before capture

_blaaz

Boxing.Fan wrote: »

But I dont understand how "Irish patriots" as you call them can be anti fascist but also murder and mame innocent people. It doesent make sense.

What are you struggling to grasp.about it?

klaaaz

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

What’s this got to with the masked white thugs beating up the gay Asian journalist again?

He’s not a member of proud boy abd wasn’t fighting with them.

This is a bad look.

You're really peddling this nonsense again, he didn't receive injuries because he was gay or Asian. No-one answered as to why that conservative was found in the middle of the counter demonstrators like a provocateur and it wasn't his first time harassing them.

Boxing.Fan

_blaaz wrote: »

What are you struggling to grasp.about it?

I'm struggling to grasp how they think killing and maiming people because they are different is ok. But at the same time claim to be anti fascist. The people killed in enniskillen omagh warmington guildford werent fascists. They were innocent people for the most part.

_blaaz

klaaaz wrote: »

You're really peddling this nonsense again, he didn't receive injuries because he was gay or Asian. No-one answered as to why that conservative was found in the middle of the counter demonstrators like a provocateur and it wasn't his first time harassing them.

He went looking for trouble and got it....learn to live with consequences of his actions

klaaaz

klaaaz wrote:

You're really peddling this nonsense again, he didn't receive injuries because he was gay or Asian. No-one answered as to why that conservative was found in the middle of the counter demonstrators like a provocateur and it wasn't his first time harassing them.

You say this as if a conservative has no right to be in amongst counter protesters without being assaulted.

Victim blaming is the term I think you'd use.

At least be consistent with your biases.

20Cent

peddlelies wrote: »

You're equating criticizing one movement with praising another. You're highly hypocritical in your pick and choosing of Nazi's then defending Antifa when they commit vandalism or attack nonthreatening individuals in a group.

There's no end goal at all, they don't achieve a thing besides escalating violence and being a pain in the arse for cities to deal with. A year ago nobody would have been swinging crowbars during those fights, it won't be long before knifes are common.

Some Neo Nazi isn't going to give up his beliefs because he got punched in the face by a guy in a mask. If anything all they're doing is making people more radicalized, on both sides. You can see that with the formation of groups like Proud Boys who's sole purpose was just to pummel Antifa guys.

Genuinely, long term, what do you think is going to happen? Nothing good will come out of it, they're achieving the opposite of what their "goals" are. Personally I'll stick with the DHS description, they are Domestic terrorists and were the chief perpetrators of violence in 2016 during election year.

Far right people kille 50 people last year.
Antifa 0.

They are not labelled as domestic terrorists or "chief perpetrators" of violence.
The false equivalance is laughable.

These far right marches used to be a lot bigger, they are getting smaller all the time.

Well done antifa.

peddlelies

klaaaz wrote: »

You're really peddling this nonsense again, he didn't receive injuries because he was gay or Asian. No-one answered as to why that conservative was found in the middle of the counter demonstrators like a provocateur and it wasn't his first time harassing them.

If some liberal walked into the right wing crowd in a non threatening manner and was attacked by a group you'd hold them to the same standard? It's clear from your posts you are an ideologue.

osarusan

20Cent wrote: »

Far right people kille 50 people last year.
Antifa 0.

I'm sure you've seen the post, and subsequent back-and-forth, noting out that one such far-right killer had switched to islamic extremism.

20Cent

osarusan wrote: »

I'm sure you've seen the post, and subsequent back-and-forth, noting out that one such far-right killer had switched to islamic extremism.

ok that makes a huge difference.

Far right 49
Antifa 0

Franz Von Peppercorn II

20Cent wrote: »

ok that makes a huge difference.

Far right 49
Antifa 0

Here’s a huge tip for your future postings.

You can condemn both.

wildlifeboy

Venom wrote: »

Why do they block off streets and abuse normal people just going about their everyday business?

what a bunch of ****in assholes, id run the ***** over.

Franz Von Peppercorn II

It’s interesting that the only journalist attacked there is the Asian guy and not the other white journalists. Something unconscious going on there no doubt.

klaaaz

Deleted User wrote: »

You say this as if a conservative has no right to be in amongst counter protesters without being assaulted.

Victim blaming is the term I think you'd use.

At least be consistent with your biases.

Hello Dunner, have you watched the videos posted by the right wingers here? It's clear what the conservative Andy was up to on an intelligence gathering mission.

peddlelies wrote: »

If some liberal walked into the right wing crowd in a non threatening manner and was attacked by a group you'd hold them to the same standard? It's clear from your posts you are an ideologue.

Ideologue of what? Civil rights?

Well the right wingers hate anyone who is different just like that right winger who murdered two men for defending a 16 yr old black girl and a Muslim woman on a train in Portland. So no surprise they murder people of any race or gender or political viewpoint.

super_furry

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

Here’s a huge tip for your future postings.

You can condemn both.

Absolutely, but you know, the side doing all the murdering deserve far much more focus and condemnation.

There is no equivalence between the two.

20Cent

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

It’s interesting that the only journalist attacked there is the Asian guy and not the other white journalists. Something unconscious going on there no doubt.

Strange alright, none of the other jopurnalists were attacked.
Random asians or gay people weren't attacked.

It was just the guy who has been doxing left wing people and putting them in mortal danger and who has been trolling them for years.

Makes you wonder why he got it.

peddlelies

20Cent wrote: »

These far right marches used to be a lot bigger, they are getting smaller all the time.

Well done antifa.

I wouldn't put it past you to make up lies to make yourself feel better about your radical views, from everything I can see they're having the opposite effect. There's bigger crowds, worse violence and increased media coverage.

You support a group who's activities the DHS internally classified as domestic terrorist violence, pre Trump. Again, your inability to understand that criticizing one thing does not mean you're endorsing another is displaying your indoctrination on full show. Why is so hard to understand that?

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/01/antifa-charlottesville-violence-fbi-242235

"Federal authorities have been warning state and local officials since early 2016 that leftist extremists known as “antifa” had become increasingly confrontational and dangerous, so much so that the Department of Homeland Security formally classified their activities as “domestic terrorist violence,” according to interviews and confidential law enforcement documents obtained by POLITICO."

Harvey Weinstein

Antifa and their political allies PBP SF Sd etc will of course be thrown under the bus by FF/FG as soon as it becomes politically expedient to do so.

Expect a few 'leaks' to the press tying Antifa to various crimes and exposing links with leftist politicians and various NGOs soon followed by arrests and convictions.

peddlelies

20Cent wrote: »

Strange alright, none of the other jopurnalists were attacked.
Random asians or gay people weren't attacked.

It was just the guy who has been doxing left wing people and putting them in mortal danger and who has been trolling them for years.

Makes you wonder why he got it.

https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1145104063362674688

20Cent

peddlelies wrote: »

I wouldn't put it past you to make up lies to make yourself feel better about your radical views, from everything I can see they're having the opposite effect. There's bigger crowds, worse violence and increased media coverage.

You support a group who's activities the DHS internally classified as domestic terrorist violence, pre Trump. Again, your inability to understand that criticizing one thing does not mean you're endorsing another is displaying your indoctrination on full show. Why is so hard to understand that?

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/01/antifa-charlottesville-violence-fbi-242235

"Federal authorities have been warning state and local officials since early 2016 that leftist extremists known as “antifa” had become increasingly confrontational and dangerous, so much so that the Department of Homeland Security formally classified their activities as “domestic terrorist violence,” according to interviews and confidential law enforcement documents obtained by POLITICO."

If they are classified as domestic terrorists how come they aren't being arrested and rounded up?


The crowds are getting smaller.

20Cent

peddlelies wrote: »

https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1145104063362674688

Ngo spent hours videoing Antifa without incident, was comfortable enough to go into them even previously. Then he wrote an article linking journalists to antifa and those journalists got death threats. Than why he was targeted, implying it's because he's gay or asian makes no sense and is there to muddy the waters.

peddlelies

20Cent wrote: »

Ngo spent hours videoing Antifa without incident, was comfortable enough to go into them even previously. Then he wrote an article linking journalists to antifa and those journalists got death threats. Than why he was targeted, implying it's because he's gay or asian makes no sense and is there to muddy the waters.

Here's a New York post reporter, what do you think would have happened if the cops weren't there?

SnakePlissken

peddlelies wrote: »

20Cent wrote: »

They are active in Texas.
They helped out during the hurricanes in 2017 with logistics and helping people.

Such high morals! Please do tell us more

That glass was quite clearly racist, good on 'em for smashing it to smithereens.

peddlelies

SnakePlissken wrote: »

That glass was quite clearly racist, good on 'em for smashing it to smithereens.

Anyone defending them is a radicalized ideologue.

notobtuse

I was listening to a news talk show the other day. They had people call in who have recently moved outside of the Portland area. One story was particularly interesting. It appears, from the caller anyway, the Portland mayor Ted Wheeler, was actually trying to govern in an equal way regarding the two far extremes. He had gotten threats by individuals on both the far left and far right, but it wasn’t until Antifa started protesting, en masse, outside his house and began threatening violence against his family that he succumbed to the leftist extremists and immediately started given Antifa a pass on their reprehensible behavior. Now I can understand someone being afraid for their family, but if he can’t uphold the law he was sworn to do then step aside for someone who could.

klaaaz

The logic here of those right wingers in their "outrage" related to Portland.

Counter demonstrators to the far right marches and rallies shout at a conservative provocateur's regular filming of their demo's = moral outrage, lock them up those scum!

A far right supporter connected(caught on camera) to the far right marchers like Patriot Prayer in Portland murders 2 people defending a black child and a Muslim woman on a train = nah, not important they're expendable, no outrage!

Seanachai

20Cent wrote: »

Richard Spence held a ball the night of Trumps inauguration doing nazi salutes.
He was regularly in the mainstream media.


Where is he now?

They shut down a mouthpiece, there's thousands of more intelligent guys with more extremist views lecturing impressionable people in living rooms and over forums right now. Unless Antifa members start joining government agencies that combat domestic terrorism, they're not going to have an impact on this.

Boxing.Fan

peddlelies wrote: »

Here's a New York post reporter, what do you think would have happened if the cops weren't there?

Turns around walks up and puts his face right into the camera "get that ****in camera out of my face"

Some of these defo have some brain problems.

SnakePlissken

20Cent wrote: »

A "Patriot Prayer" rally.

The guy doing nazi salutes is the head of fascist group Identity Europa.
The guy shaking his hand is Jeremy Christian who went on to murder two people on a train.
Nice bunch of lads.

Would you like to post some citation for your claims, neither one of these men look like the people you have claimed them to be, nor is there anything on view in these screenshots to claim this is a proud boys rally. I can see timestamps on your screen grabs, where might one see this actual video?

super_furry

notobtuse wrote: »

I was listening to a news talk show the other day. They had people call in who have recently moved outside of the Portland area. One story was particularly interesting. It appears, from the caller anyway, the Portland mayor Ted Wheeler, was actually trying to govern in an equal way regarding the two far extremes. He had gotten threats by individuals on both the far left and far right, but it wasn’t until Antifa started protesting, en masse, outside his house and began threatening violence against his family that he succumbed to the leftist extremists and immediately started given Antifa a pass on their reprehensible behavior. Now I can understand someone being afraid for their family, but if he can’t uphold the law he was sworn to do then step aside for someone who could.

Or maybe he sees that while Antifa are making their presence felt by protests, the extreme right are out there murdering people.