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Antifa [Mod Warning on post #1 - updated 08/08/19]

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    #4442
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    You can't indite a sitting President. He'll likely get hit with obstruction should he lose next term.
    What obstruction? There is no evidence of obstruction, and the report that just came out indicates it was way past time for Comey to be fired when he was, as it appears he wasn't qualified to be a dog catcher, let alone head of the FBI.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #4443
    Ironicname
    Registered Users Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭Ironicname


    Matt Barrett wrote:
    I disagree. The KKK are more honest maybe. It's very telling when you have to disassociate yourself with such organisations.

    When it was said that the KKK were completely different from Trump and the Proud Boys, you said the above.

    This is not only demonstrably a lie, but it is also Scaremongering and spreading fear.


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    #4444
    Ironicname
    Registered Users Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭Ironicname


    Matt Barrett wrote:
    You are telling yarns. Show one lie never mind lies? So was I. It makes absolutely no difference. Mexican immigrants are due the same respect and any other Mexican I would have thought.

    Key word you omitted was "illegal".


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    #4445
    [Deleted User]
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    Ironicname wrote: »
    On a side note, it the word "grifter" popular now on the "liberal" side these days. I thought it was just some annoying pricks that used it on this site but seeing more people who would be modern "liberals" using it.

    It's even more annoying than the word snowflake.

    (Cue people calling me "triggered"... Ugh... I hate certain aspects ofthe modern lexicon)

    I thought it was just 20cent..

    Made me want to slap my head off a wall whenever I saw it..


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    #4446
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    SexBobomb wrote: »
    He can be impeached though can't he ? Why haven't they impeached him if they have enough to charge him in relation to rigging an election with Russia ?

    Because Republican's hold the majority in Congress, also Pelosi is more concerned about playing politics to push for it.
    notobtuse wrote: »
    What obstruction? There is no evidence of obstruction, and the report that just came out indicates it was way past time for Comey to be fired when he was, as it appears he wasn't qualified to be a dog catcher, let alone head of the FBI.

    Mueller report. Comey screwed Clinton if anyone. Let's not open the whole 'not qualified' can of worms...Ivanka and her husband for example.
    Ironicname wrote: »
    Key word you omitted was "illegal".

    Not paying your TV licence doesn't make you a murder or rapist.


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    #4447
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Ironicname wrote: »
    When it was said that the KKK were completely different from Trump and the Proud Boys, you said the above.

    This is not only demonstrably a lie, but it is also Scaremongering and spreading fear.

    I stand by it. Three sets of racists to varying degrees but the KKK are honest about it. That's not hinting or inferring, I'm straight out saying it and basing it on their speech and actions.


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    #4448
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    Mueller report. Comey screwed Clinton if anyone.
    So it's Comey you accuse of obstruction?

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #4449
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    notobtuse wrote: »
    So it's Comey you accuse of obstruction?

    No Trump by way of Mueller. Comey screwed Clinton IMO.


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    #4450
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    I stand by it. Three sets of racists to varying degrees but the KKK are honest about it. That's not hinting or inferring, I'm straight out saying it and basing it on there speech and actions.

    Everyone must be labelled. Liberal lefty snowflakes and right wing racists. Their correct label is a shower of cünts


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    #4451
    Ironicname
    Registered Users Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭Ironicname


    Matt Barrett wrote:
    I stand by it. Three sets of racists to varying degrees but the KKK are honest about it. That's not hinting or inferring, I'm straight out saying it.

    The proud boys leader is married to a black woman and has three black kids.

    Who exactly are the proud boys, or Donald trump to that matter, racist against?


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    #4452
    Ironicname
    Registered Users Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭Ironicname


    Matt Barrett wrote:
    Not paying your TV licence doesn't make you a murder or rapist.

    What? See this kind of bull**** here. You purposely leftout the word illegal to infer that I didn't agree that immigrants should be treated with the same respect, then when I pull you up about it, you equate illegal immigrants to not paying a TV license?

    Ridiculous


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    #4453
    mynamejeff
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    Matt Barrett wrote: »


    Not paying your TV licence doesn't make you a murder or rapist.

    but both are crimes and both can eventually get you locked up (for not paying fines in the former case). the same as illegally entering a country


    although in general if illegal entry is the only crime i understand that there are just deposited back on the other side of the boarder


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    #4454
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Ironicname wrote: »
    The proud boys leader is married to a black woman and has three black kids.

    Who exactly are the proud boys, or Donald trump to that matter, racist against?

    Muslims, Immigrants, Mexican immigrants, the poor, the sick, Puerto ricans.

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRWOKh_aKAmRXjGUMhVDCvvvsK0B0GG2WlaVSCLDY60Qeask3LNDA


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    #4455
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    Muslims, Immigrants, Mexican immigrants, the poor, the sick, Puerto ricans.

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRWOKh_aKAmRXjGUMhVDCvvvsK0B0GG2WlaVSCLDY60Qeask3LNDA

    But not black people?

    How many of those you listed are a different race?


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    #4456
    James Brown
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    mynamejeff wrote: »
    but both are crimes and both can eventually get you locked up (for not paying fines in the former case). the same as illegally entering a country


    although in general if illegal entry is the only crime i understand that there are just deposited back on the other side of the boarder

    The poster was defending Trumps racism by citing the fact they were 'illegal' immigrants, like that opened them up to accusations of murder or rape.


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    #4457
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    But not black people?

    How many of those you listed are a different race?

    Isn't one enough? Are you making exceptions for racists based on the race of those they hate? That's the definition of racism by the way.


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    #4458
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    No Trump by way of Mueller. Comey screwed Clinton IMO.
    Trump by way of Muller? How so? Please enlighten us.

    I take it Clinton wasn't satisfied?

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #4459
    mynamejeff
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    The poster was defending Trumps racism by citing the fact they were 'illegal' immigrants, like that opened them up to accusations of murder or rape.

    you do know that white european people who try to enter the US illegaly get detained and removed too dont you ,


    is that racist too ?

    hereis the law that is being broken . please point out what bit is racist ?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1965


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    #4460
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    Isn't one enough? Are you making exceptions for racists based on the race of those they hate? That's the definition of racism by the way.

    No I'm asking you how many of those people you listed are a different race?

    You know this and you know where it's going


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    #4461
    batgoat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    mynamejeff wrote: »
    you do know that white european people who try to enter the US illegaly get detained and removed too dont you ,


    is that racist too ?

    hereis the law that is being broken . please point out what bit is racist ?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1965

    He hasn't described white European people as rapists and murderers and that is what was being discussed....


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    #4462
    Ironicname
    Registered Users Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭Ironicname


    Matt Barrett wrote:
    Muslims, Immigrants, Mexican immigrants, the poor, the sick, Puerto ricans.

    What makes you say that? They are racist against the sick and the poor?


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    #4463
    Ironicname
    Registered Users Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭Ironicname


    batgoat wrote:
    He hasn't described white European people as rapists and murderers and that is what was being discussed....

    You are beyond parody at this stage. I'll leave you be.

    Gotta love one minute you are saying you hate when people perpetuate lies, the next you are saying the proud boys are racist against everyone except blacks and whites


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    #4464
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Ironicname wrote: »
    You are beyond parody at this stage. I'll leave you be.

    Gotta love one minute you are saying you hate when people perpetuate lies, the next you are saying the proud boys are racist against everyone except blacks and whites

    The sick and the poor. The proud boys are racist against the sick and the poor.
    Stop the lights. Left the plantation altogether


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    #4465
    Ironicname
    Registered Users Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭Ironicname


    Blueshoe wrote:
    Left the plantation altogether

    Omg. That's so racist!!!!!


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    #4466
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Ironicname wrote: »
    Omg. That's so racist!!!!!

    Donald trump told me to say it


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    #4467
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    I see some of those here on the Left have decided to carry the water for The New York Times’ efforts to shift the election coverage from Russia to Trump racism in their goal to oust him from the presidency.

    The Times says it is mapping out a narrative in advance of any naturally-occurring, true news events, and plans to shape all natural-occurring, true news events so that they are reported in the context of racism.

    Journalism and honesty be damned!

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #4468
    JohnMc1
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    notobtuse wrote: »
    I see some of those here on the Left have decided to carry the water for The New York Times’ efforts to shift the election coverage from Russia to Trump racism in their goal to oust him from the presidency.

    The Times says it is mapping out a narrative in advance of any naturally-occurring, true news events, and plans to shape all natural-occurring, true news events so that they are reported in the context of racism.

    Journalism and honesty be damned!

    The problem with that is that they and everybody else on the Left have been screaming "Racist", "Nazi", "White Supremacist" for nearly 3 years. The labels lose their meaning after awhile.


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    #4469
    hetuzozaho
    Registered Users Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭hetuzozaho


    JohnMc1 wrote: »
    The problem with that is that they and everybody else on the Left have been screaming "Racist", "Nazi", "White Supremacist" for nearly 3 years. The labels lose their meaning after awhile.

    With Trump it's decades - water off a ducks back at this stage - the racism in his casino was the 80s I think.


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    #4470
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,440 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    notobtuse wrote: »
    I see some of those here on the Left have decided to carry the water for The New York Times’ efforts to shift the election coverage from Russia to Trump racism in their goal to oust him from the presidency.

    The Times says it is mapping out a narrative in advance of any naturally-occurring, true news events, and plans to shape all natural-occurring, true news events so that they are reported in the context of racism.

    Journalism and honesty be damned!

    I think Trump is doing a pretty good job himself in shifting the discussion towards his overt racism.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #4471
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Brian? wrote: »
    I think Trump is doing a pretty good job himself in shifting the discussion towards his overt racism.

    2020 campaign add trump tweeted has a logo identical to one used by a white supremacist website called Vdare

    Logo

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1166790123658371073

    Total coincidence I'm sure.


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