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Antifa [Mod Warning on post #1 - updated 08/08/19]

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    #4832
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    20Cent wrote: »
    Did they attack to police or did the police attack them?
    Don’t know for sure but I’d bet the farm it was left wing protestors attacking police. The newspaper here had an article of a local that had been arrested there for attacking the police, and noted protestors confronted the police.

    https://www.mcall.com/news/local/mc-nws-kraft-arrest-boston-straight-pride-parade-20190903-rsbk6p4tj5cznbem265i3l2fue-story.html

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #4833
    Ironicname
    Registered Users Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭Ironicname


    Matt Barrett wrote:
    Ah, fair enough so, you must be right, having a come back and all

    Anyone who hates antifa is right apparently


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    #4834
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,439 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Danzy wrote: »
    The war started by the radical left and right joining up together to invade Poland.

    Until they fell out with each other.

    A falling out that continues to this day.

    I assume you failed junior cert history.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #4835
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,603 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Tasfasdf wrote: »
    Another video of how antifa behave when they outnumber people


    Already discussed last week. Just as easily staged with himself cameraman and a would be perp inside of a given crowd. No logic in turning his back to a knifer he thought had murderous intent. No charges filed, no police involved; Just a call for political interference at the highest levels and shared with youtube for likes subs and views.


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    #4836
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,603 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Ironicname wrote: »
    If you believe antifa are anti-fascist in anything but name, you aren't naive, you're delusional or idiotic.

    Is this you finally admitting that the Nazis were not socialists?


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    #4837
    Ironicname
    Registered Users Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭Ironicname


    Overheal wrote:
    Is this you finally admitting that the Nazis were not socialists?

    You have me confused with someone else I think.


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    #4838
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,603 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Ironicname wrote: »
    You have me confused with someone else I think.

    Just a joke in general; very accustomed to hearing the talking point that socialism leads to genocide because Nazis were “national socialists”

    Where these people all get their talking points from I don’t know (the inside lining of a can of Natural Light?)


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    #4839
    Tasfasdf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 660 ✭✭✭Tasfasdf


    Overheal wrote: »
    Already discussed last week. Just as easily staged with himself cameraman and a would be perp inside of a given crowd. No logic in turning his back to a knifer he thought had murderous intent. No charges filed, no police involved; Just a call for political interference at the highest levels and shared with youtube for likes subs and views.

    I can see why you are the mod of conspiracy theories


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    #4840
    batgoat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    Tasfasdf wrote: »
    I can see why you are the mod of conspiracy theories

    If you were familiar with Overheal's posts, he pretty much never actually believe the theories.


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    #4841
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Watched a video about some socialists protesting Ice agents checking immigrants on cross country greyhound buses. The protesters want Ice shut down.
    They would like to see the removal of the us border and open crossings with all new arrivals recieving instant us citizenship and benifits.

    The guy asking the questions didn't agree with them so they shouted him down calling him a fascist and told the cops that he was harrasing them.

    This is the mentality of some folk out there.
    Insane.

    Funnily enough I saw a twitter post with hundreds of comments complaining about Garda immigration officers checking people on a bus traveling from the north to the Republic. There was outrage from many about the fact.

    Once it was pointed out and explained that Ireland isn't in the Schengen area they changed tune to the gardai or racial profiling people.

    Stop the lights


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    #4842
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Watched a video about some socialists protesting Ice agents checking immigrants on cross country greyhound buses. The protesters want Ice shut down.
    They would like to see the removal of the us border and open crossings with all new arrivals recieving instant us citizenship and benifits.

    The guy asking the questions didn't agree with them so they shouted him down calling him a fascist and told the cops that he was harrasing them.

    This is the mentality of some folk out there.
    Insane.

    Funnily enough I saw a twitter post with hundreds of comments complaining about Garda immigration officers checking people on a bus traveling from the north to the Republic. There was outrage from many about the fact.

    Once it was pointed out and explained that Ireland isn't in the Schengen area they changed tune to the gardai or racial profiling people.

    Stop the lights

    Post up a link to the vid then.
    Been telling ye about grifters.
    I can spot them a mile away.


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    #4843
    mad muffin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    20Cent wrote: »
    Post up a link to the vid then.
    Been telling ye about grifters.
    I can spot them a mile away.

    Speaking of grifters…

    AOC on Twitter urged people to send money to bail out antifa thugs that got arrested for beating up cops.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/sep/2/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-ayanna-pressley-push-fund/


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    #4844
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    20Cent wrote: »
    Post up a link to the vid then.
    Been telling ye about grifters.
    I can spot them a mile away.

    https://youtu.be/5FIfrZr_lk8 there ya go


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    #4845
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    https://youtu.be/5FIfrZr_lk8 there ya go

    10 seconds in.
    Yep a grifter.

    Seemed very tame, thought "the left" would have executed him or something.
    He was able to go around into the crowd with no fear, irritating people and they were patient with him

    Cops going onto buses to ask people to product their papers, seems pretty fascist, you'd think the freedumb brigade would be against that.


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    #4846
    Ironicname
    Registered Users Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭Ironicname


    20Cent wrote:
    Cops going onto buses to ask people to product their papers, seems pretty fascist, you'd think the freedumb brigade would be against that.

    Freedumb. Grifters.

    Jesus.


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    #4847
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    mad muffin wrote: »
    Speaking of grifters…

    AOC on Twitter urged people to send money to bail out antifa thugs that got arrested for beating up cops.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/sep/2/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-ayanna-pressley-push-fund/
    Yup… she supports physical violence against police. And this is the future of the Democrat party.

    I see the South Dakota Democratic Party will be closing the doors at both of its last offices in the state due to financial troubles, leaving the state with no Democratic Party offices. There IS sanity in the heartland.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #4848
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Yup… she supports physical violence against police.....

    Link or are you a liar?

    Yep more spin....
    It was unclear how many of those arrested were affiliated with antifa

    The Washington Times, another lunatic fringe right wing rag....
    owned by,
    The Unification movement, also known as the Unification Church (UC), is a worldwide new religious movement whose members are sometimes colloquially called "Moonies". ... In 1994 the HSA-UWC was replaced by Moon with a new organization, the Family Federation for World Peace and Unification (FFWPU).

    You free speech people really like listening to these folk?
    It's quite worrying how much sway all these conservative religious organisations have on the 'free speech' defend a fascists rights folk and them singing their tunes. It's a massive con.


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    #4849
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    Yep more spin....



    The Washington Times, another lunatic fringe right wing rag....
    owned by,



    You free speech people really like listening to these folk?
    All reports from all the sources I've seen indicate the arrests were of protesters. Those who participated in the parade weren’t protesters.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #4850
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    notobtuse wrote: »
    All reports from all the sources I've seen indicate the arrests were of protesters. Those who participated in the parade weren’t protesters.

    Seems that way. I guess the parade people can live with their fear and insecurity.

    Now explain her helping bailing out antifa and supporting violence towards police?


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    #4851
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    Seems that way. I guess the parade people can live with their fear and insecurity.

    Now explain her helping bailing out antifa and supporting violence towards police?
    I think AOC's act is self-explanatory.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #4852
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    notobtuse wrote: »
    I think AOC's act is self-explanatory.

    Her act differs from what you state. If you're just making stuff up you should be clearer you're not the POTUS, but if you want to drop to his level of credibility you'll not be taken seriously.


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    #4853
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Calling someone a 'grifter' as a means of argument is about as weak as it gets.

    The first person I seen this been said about was Larry Elder, a guy who backs up everything he says, and all he tends to get met with is a barrage of accusations that he's an Uncle Tom and a Grifter.

    You might as well be saying 'I have no argument against the points you have made' when you resort to that weak ass shit.


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    #4854
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Calling someone a 'grifter' as a means of argument is about as weak as it gets.

    The first person I seen this been said about was Larry Elder, a guy who backs up everything he says, and all he tends to get met with is a barrage of accusations that he's an Uncle Tom and a Grifter.

    You might as well be saying 'I have no argument against the points you have made' when you resort to that weak ass shit.

    'Scum' is okay though? Reads the same as 'chancer' to me. Free speech wha? Words hurt? ;)


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    #4855
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,603 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Watched a video about some socialists protesting Ice agents checking immigrants on cross country greyhound buses. The protesters want Ice shut down.
    They would like to see the removal of the us border and open crossings with all new arrivals recieving instant us citizenship and benifits.

    The guy asking the questions didn't agree with them so they shouted him down calling him a fascist and told the cops that he was harrasing them.

    This is the mentality of some folk out there.
    Insane.

    Funnily enough I saw a twitter post with hundreds of comments complaining about Garda immigration officers checking people on a bus traveling from the north to the Republic. There was outrage from many about the fact.

    Once it was pointed out and explained that Ireland isn't in the Schengen area they changed tune to the gardai or racial profiling people.

    Stop the lights
    They said that in the video or you made it up


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    #4856
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Calling someone a 'grifter' as a means of argument is about as weak as it gets.

    The first person I seen this been said about was Larry Elder, a guy who backs up everything he says, and all he tends to get met with is a barrage of accusations that he's an Uncle Tom and a Grifter.

    You might as well be saying 'I have no argument against the points you have made' when you resort to that weak ass shit.

    Disagree.
    There are a lot of these characters about.
    Get a microphone and a camera, go into a group of people being annoying then getting some footage to share and go viral.

    They aren't real reporters using journalistic methods or ethics.
    They just want the followers and exposure usually to sell something.

    Infowars is a good example they sell vitimin pills and loads of stuff.
    They are bad faith actors.

    A lot of them on the right for some reason.


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    #4857
    SexBobomb
    Registered Users Posts: 442 ✭✭SexBobomb


    20Cent wrote: »

    They aren't real reporters using journalistic methods or ethics.
    They just want the followers and exposure usually to sell something.

    News channels sell advertisement whats the difference ?


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    #4858
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    SexBobomb wrote: »
    News channels sell advertisement whats the difference ?

    If a news channel consistently lies people might stop watching it, probably not a good business model but Fox news manage it so maybe.


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    #4859
    SexBobomb
    Registered Users Posts: 442 ✭✭SexBobomb


    20Cent wrote: »
    If a news channel consistently lies people might stop watching it, probably not a good business model but Fox news manage it so maybe.

    Same could be said about CNN, but whats the difference between selling advertisements on tv and these online news channels selling to followers?


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    #4860
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    SexBobomb wrote: »
    Same could be said about CNN, but whats the difference between selling advertisements on tv and these online news channels selling to followers?
    It’s simple… there really is no difference. Their real sin revolves around the fact the US media is supposed to be liberal, left, and in the pockets of Democrats. Everything else is considered illegitimate for any reason made up in the minds of the disingenuous.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #4861
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    SexBobomb wrote: »
    Same could be said about CNN, but whats the difference between selling advertisements on tv and these online news channels selling to followers?

    Don't watch cnn but if they lie to increase ratings then it's just a bigger version of it.

    Taking one example.
    Say you have video of a guy with his fists wrapped to fight laying into some antifa and one of them knocks him out. You cut out the first bit of footage and just show this guy on the ground. Title the video antifa attack innocent old man.
    What would you call someone who does things like that?
    Certainly not a journalist.

    Andy Ngo shared a video of the spartan guy and his daughter. Antifa attack man and little girl he titles the video. He didn't wait to find out who she was or how they ended up in the middle of a bunch of antifa. Turns out the guy has white pride tattoos and boasts about beating people online, the "little girl" turns out to be his 25 year old daughter who pepper sprays people.


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