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Antifa [Mod Warning on post #1 - updated 08/08/19]

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    #5192
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    Cut the bull. Armed confederate flag folk roaming on campus and armed cops....or alert system? hmmm..
    When states in your country allow people open carry or carry at all, the normal people need try to defend their sense of freedom in their own country. The US is a basket case.
    A student 'antiracist alarm system?' What does that have to do with open carry? Seems to me the college alarm system is the proper method to handle this type of situation. It's not me that should cut the bull.

    I often come across people with open carry. No big deal. They prominently display them. They do not hide their handguns which is what a shooter would do. You do know shooters almost exclusively target establishments that do not allow guns on premises. I do not have a open carry license for my handgun. It's not something I want to do, especially because I have not been trained to handle an active shooter situation with use of a handgun. But knowing others who do and would do whatever it takes to stop a serious criminal if police would be too late to control a situation is sometimes comforting. My son-in-law is a police detective. He says the open carry people are law-abiding and not the ones they worry much about.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #5193
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    notobtuse wrote: »
    A student 'antiracist alarm system?' What does that have to do with open carry? Seems to me the college alarm system is the proper method to handle this type of situation. It's not me that should cut the bull.

    I often come across people with open carry. No big deal. They prominently display them. They do not hide their handguns which is what a shooter would do. You do know shooters almost exclusively target establishments that do not allow guns on premises. I do not have a open carry license for my handgun. It's not something I want to do, especially because I have not been trained to handle an active shooter situation with use of a handgun. But knowing others who do and would do whatever it takes to stop a serious criminal if police would be too late to control a situation is sometimes comforting. My son-in-law is a police detective. He says the open carry people are law-abiding and not the ones they worry much about.

    People who open carry have self confidence issues IMO. I wouldn't trust them and blind trust in strangers who open carry is not reassuring. I'd leave an establishment with gun touting customers. Lunacy.


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    #5194
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    People who open carry have self confidence issues IMO. I wouldn't trust them and blind trust in strangers who open carry is not reassuring. I'd leave an establishment with gun touting customers. Lunacy.
    To each his own.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #5195
    PostWoke
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 559 ✭✭✭PostWoke


    Sweetemotion wrote: »
    Antifa attack journalist in Portland.


    LMFAO calling Ngo a journalist, dude is a hatemonger who filled in the void when Milo blew up his career in hatemongering when he ok'd dudes sleeping with 13 year old boys.


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    #5196
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    PostWoke wrote: »
    LMFAO calling Ngo a journalist, dude is a hatemonger who filled in the void when Milo blew up his career in hatemongering when he ok'd dudes sleeping with 13 year old boys.

    It's a great angle for the trolls. Rage against your own. I might start complaining about handsome Irish lads ;)


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    #5197
    PostWoke
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 559 ✭✭✭PostWoke


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    Rage against your own.

    The Irish way. ;)

    People wringing their hands over 'Antifa' are fooling no one.

    Some facts:

    There is no official membership to this group. It's like Anonymous.

    Wearing a black bandana over your face does not make you 'antifa' automatically. You can be out there representing yourself.

    There are very few physical incidents incited by people in black face coverings. Why risk it? They outnumber far right groups by several times whenever they come together for a rally. Better to let the far righters die of embarrassment instead. Some people would like you to believe 'Antifa' show up in small 'vocal minority!' groups and charge large groups of peaceful bigots with nunchuks, but it's just not the reality.


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    #5198
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    There's an obvious move to make anti fascism and fighting for equality for minorities unpopular. Says more about those doing the pushing IMO.


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    #5199
    biko
    Registered Users Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    biko wrote: »
    I doubt "cancel culture"and deplatformers are fringe left.
    They see themselves as concerned people protecting their fellows from dangerous influences.
    Rest my case, bunch of opinion-supressers here https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058014149


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    #5200
    Danzy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,857 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Asian American who was attacked along with his wife, by Antifa goon squad and shot one 9f them in self defence.

    No retrial, free to go.

    https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/prosecutors-will-not-retry-couple-accused-in-shooting-of-antifa-protester-on-uw-campus-during-milo-yiannopoulos-event/

    Not the first Asian American that ANTIFA has targeted.

    Nor will he be the last.


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    #5201
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    That antifa specifially target asian to make them out to be racist is probably the most dishonest take in this thread. Doubt the posters even believe it.


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    #5202
    PostWoke
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 559 ✭✭✭PostWoke


    Danzy wrote: »
    Asian American who was attacked along with his wife, by Antifa goon squad and shot one 9f them in self defence.

    No retrial, free to go.

    https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/prosecutors-will-not-retry-couple-accused-in-shooting-of-antifa-protester-on-uw-campus-during-milo-yiannopoulos-event/

    Not the first Asian American that ANTIFA has targeted.

    Nor will he be the last.

    No virtue signalling here, no sir, none at all. That poor 'asian american'. #novirtuesignalling

    Tokenizing people's race/sexuality/etc for virtue signalling purposes is some revolting stuff but by all means continue, you're showing your stripes wonderfully and no one is as stupid as you believe.


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    #5203
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    There's an obvious move to make anti fascism and fighting for equality for minorities unpopular. Says more about those doing the pushing IMO.

    Your opinion is ridiculous.

    This whole thread is full of examples of how Antifa have instigated violence on people and how their aim is to silence those they merely disagree with. If they were just peacefully protesting genuine racists and true fascists, then NOBODY apart from genuine racists and true fascists would be taking issue with them, but quite clearly they are and the reasons are as have been outlined multiple times on the thread and you and your fellow Antifa supporters keep sticking your head in the sand on it.

    WE (those condemning Antifa) are behaving in a far more anti-fascist way than any of you lot are, as we are speaking out against violence being carried out against people purely because of their views, and authoritarian actions like people saying 'get of our streets' and also people damaging property in an effort to prevent events taking place were views are to be expressed which they don't like.

    This is all fascistic behavior and should be condemned. The main argument against calling Antifa fascists appears to be:
    'Eh, the FA and in Antifa stands for Fascist dummy, they're anti-fascist group'

    Which is akin to this pedo saying that he shouldn't be charged with his paying for kiddie porn because he's a pedo-hunter.

    Talk about hiding in plain sight. Antifa are not anti-fascists. They are anti-non-leftists.


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    #5204
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Your opinion is ridiculous.

    This whole thread is full of examples of how Antifa have instigated violence on people and how their aim is to silence those they merely disagree with. If they were just peacefully protesting genuine racists and true fascists, then NOBODY apart from genuine racists and true fascists would be taking issue with them, but quite clearly they are and the reasons are as have been outlined multiple times on the thread and you and your fellow Antifa supporters keep sticking your head in the sand on it.

    WE (those condemning Antifa) are behaving in a far more anti-fascist way than any of you lot are, as we are speaking out against violence being carried out against people purely because of their views, and authoritarian actions like people saying 'get of our streets' and also people damaging property in an effort to prevent events taking place were views are to be expressed which they don't like.

    This is all fascistic behavior and should be condemned. The main argument against calling Antifa fascists appears to be:



    Which is akin to this pedo saying that he shouldn't be charged with his paying for kiddie porn because he's a pedo-hunter.

    Talk about hiding in plain sight. Antifa are not anti-fascists. They are anti-non-leftists.

    Slow hand clap.

    They are the real fascists.
    They attack people just for how they think.
    Even got pedo in here.

    Every far right talking point in one post, bravo.


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    #5205
    PostWoke
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 559 ✭✭✭PostWoke


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Your opinion is ridiculous.

    This whole thread is full of examples of how Antifa have instigated violence on people and how their aim is to silence those they merely disagree with. If they were just peacefully protesting genuine racists and true fascists, then NOBODY apart from genuine racists and true fascists would be taking issue with them, but quite clearly they are and the reasons are as have been outlined multiple times on the thread and you and your fellow Antifa supporters keep sticking your head in the sand on it.

    WE (those condemning Antifa) are behaving in a far more anti-fascist way than any of you lot are, as we are speaking out against violence being carried out against people purely because of their views, and authoritarian actions like people saying 'get of our streets' and also people damaging property in an effort to prevent events taking place were views are to be expressed which they don't like.

    This is all fascistic behavior and should be condemned. The main argument against calling Antifa fascists appears to be:



    Which is akin to this pedo saying that he shouldn't be charged with his paying for kiddie porn because he's a pedo-hunter.

    Talk about hiding in plain sight. Antifa are not anti-fascists. They are anti-non-leftists.

    Imagine hand-wringing about a bunch of lads who hang around not attacking anyone unless attacked first, instead of alt-righters who have literally murdered a whole feckton of people.

    Just imagine.

    Your genuine concern for condemning violence is coming through nice and clear alright. lmfao


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    #5206
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Your opinion is ridiculous.

    This whole thread is full of examples of how Antifa have instigated violence on people and how their aim is to silence those they merely disagree with.....
    Talk about hiding in plain sight. Antifa are not anti-fascists. They are anti-non-leftists.

    Close. The thread is about dismissing white supremacy like it's just a bunch of lads who prefer Pepsi over Coke and they are being attacked by thugs for engaging in free speech.
    I think everyone has accepted violence is wrong and people in the antifa movement have engaged in violence. Where it gets disingenuous is the idea that as you put it, "Antifa are not anti-fascists. They are anti-non-leftists".
    I'd consider all decent non-racist or racist apologist people antifa.


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    #5207
    [Deleted User]
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    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    I'd consider all decent non-racist or racist apologist people antifa.

    Well I am non racist and not a racist apologist but I would prefer not to be considered Antifa.

    In much the same way I am staunchly in favour of equality for women but would not ever want to be called a feminist.


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    #5208
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    PostWoke wrote: »
    Imagine hand-wringing about a bunch of lads who hang around not attacking anyone unless attacked first, instead of alt-righters who have literally murdered a whole feckton of people.

    Just imagine.

    Your genuine concern for condemning violence is coming through nice and clear alright. lmfao
    With all the police gathered at the protests, you’d think there would be a whole bunch of arrests of those ‘alt-righters who have literally murdered a whole feckton of people’ that you claim.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #5209
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    notobtuse wrote: »
    With all the police gathered at the protests, you’d think there would be a whole bunch of arrests of those ‘alt-righters who have literally murdered a whole feckton of people’ that you claim.

    George W. is a war criminal, so they let things slide over there.


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    #5210
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    George W. is a war criminal, so they let things slide over there.
    Dear gawd, man... stop drinking the kool-aid!

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #5211
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Dear gawd, man... stop drinking the kool-aid!

    I don't speak Nickelodeon.


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    #5212
    PostWoke
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 559 ✭✭✭PostWoke


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Dear gawd, man... stop drinking the kool-aid!

    If you invade a country purely because your daddy/ Uncle Colin/Cheney want you to and you kill and displace an insane amount of people, that makes you a war criminal.

    Just because you might not regard them as people, doesn't mean they aren't people.


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    #5213
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Aaaaand another one.
    Radicalised by the grifters no doubt.

    Vincent Fuller: White supremacist car park stabbing 'terrorist act'
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-surrey-49652977


    Outside court, Supt Andy Rundle, from Surrey Police, said it was clear Fuller had become radicalised and developed "an extreme right-wing view".

    Det Ch Supt Kath Barnes, head of counter-terrorism at Policing South East, said Fuller was "clearly an incredibly angry and dangerous individual who went out of his way looking for someone of non-white appearance to attack".


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    #5214
    p1akuw47h5r3it
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    20Cent wrote: »
    Aaaaand another one.
    Radicalised by the grifters no doubt.

    Vincent Fuller: White supremacist car park stabbing 'terrorist act'
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-surrey-49652977


    Outside court, Supt Andy Rundle, from Surrey Police, said it was clear Fuller had become radicalised and developed "an extreme right-wing view".

    Det Ch Supt Kath Barnes, head of counter-terrorism at Policing South East, said Fuller was "clearly an incredibly angry and dangerous individual who went out of his way looking for someone of non-white appearance to attack".
    Clearly all these white supremacist attacks show that antifa's tactics aren't working. A better approach is needed.


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    #5215
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    DanDan6592 wrote: »
    Clearly all these white supremacist attacks show that antifa's tactics aren't working. A better approach is needed.

    Dread to think what it would be like without antifa.

    Nazi marches normalised.
    Fear and loathing everywhere.


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    #5216
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    20Cent wrote: »
    Aaaaand another one.
    Radicalised by the grifters no doubt.

    Vincent Fuller: White supremacist car park stabbing 'terrorist act'
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-surrey-49652977


    Outside court, Supt Andy Rundle, from Surrey Police, said it was clear Fuller had become radicalised and developed "an extreme right-wing view".

    Det Ch Supt Kath Barnes, head of counter-terrorism at Policing South East, said Fuller was "clearly an incredibly angry and dangerous individual who went out of his way looking for someone of non-white appearance to attack".

    Religion Political view of peace my ass....
    If he were antifa or Muslim we'd have several outraged posts already, maybe a few threads.


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    #5217
    [Deleted User]
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    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    Religion Political view of peace my ass....
    If he were antifa or Muslim we'd have several outraged posts already, maybe a few threads.

    If he was Antifa, you would have people here defending him.

    Funnily enough, nobody on this thread supports actual white supremacy. Despite your protests to the contrary, we don't have many actual (or any) white supremacists/apologies here.


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    #5218
    Ironicname
    Registered Users Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭Ironicname


    Deleted User wrote:
    Funnily enough, nobody on this thread supports actual white supremacy. Despite your protests to the contrary, we don't have many actual (or any) white supremacists/apologies here.

    I wouldn't waste your time. Just by saying that you are a Nazi now.


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    #5219
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Deleted User wrote: »
    If he was Antifa, you would have people here defending him.

    Funnily enough, nobody on this thread supports actual white supremacy. Despite your protests to the contrary, we don't have many actual (or any) white supremacists/apologies here.

    Would you? What leads you to that conclusion?

    You are attacking the antifascist movement. Do you have a anti white supremacist thread I've missed? Do you think anti fascists or fascists are a bigger concern?
    You dismiss or ignore what antifa are protesting against and concentrate on a minority of violent protesters that nobody has defended.


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    #5220
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Ironicname wrote: »
    I wouldn't waste your time. Just by saying that you are a Nazi now.

    Where's your outrage at this guy? If it were antifa you'd be all over it. You are a hypocrite in regard to this issue.


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    #5221
    Ironicname
    Registered Users Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭Ironicname


    Matt Barrett wrote:
    Where's your outrage at this guy? If it were antifa you'd be all over it. You are a hypocrite in regard to this issue.

    Start a thread and perhaps I will respond to it. This thread is about antifa. I'm not a hypocrite. I despise white supremacists and I despise antifa.


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