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Antifa [Mod Warning on post #1 - updated 08/08/19]

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    #5552
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    DanDan6592 wrote: »

    I don't deny he did. But how is that "encouraging" people towards the far-right?

    Also, have you got a weird framing around our comments to each other or is it just my end?

    It's obvious he is giving a platform for dodgy characters to peddle their propaganda unopposed or questioned.


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    #5553
    Yer Da sells Avon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    Mini-fascist Justin Barrett got milkshaked today. :)

    https://twitter.com/aisghair/status/1177665460449484800


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    #5554
    PostWoke
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 559 ✭✭✭PostWoke


    I love a good milkshaking usually but that video makes me feel sorry for the fella, even if he is anti-choice etc.


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    #5555
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,578 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    He put on a good front for a young guy with possibly the largest set of ears on a walking talking Irish adult atm (Guinness, check that one) but yeah I don't want to encourage that kind of behavior. I hate to call it violent, because its such a soft form of it, but. There's just no need for it is there, in the current Irish political climate?


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    #5556
    Ironicname
    Registered Users Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭Ironicname


    Yer Da sells Avon wrote:
    Mini-fascist Justin Barrett got milkshaked today.

    "Mini fascist"... Jesus.

    Delighting in seeing a politician being assaulted because you don't agree with him is certainly not a good trait.


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    #5557
    vriesmays
    Registered Users Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭vriesmays


    Is that a racist attack or is that only for milkshakes thrown at non-nationals.


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    #5558
    Danzy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,857 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    No fan of Barrett but a bunch of rich kid knobheads going around milkshaking people isn't appealing either.


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    #5559
    Ironicname
    Registered Users Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭Ironicname


    Danzy wrote:
    No fan of Barrett but a bunch of rich kid knobheads going around milkshaking people isn't appealing either.

    I'm not a fan of a lot of people. It doesn't give me the right to assault them. It's actually sickening to see people delight in politicians getting assaulted for having a different opinion.


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    #5560
    vriesmays
    Registered Users Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭vriesmays


    The National, Party needs a 16-year girl to warn everyone about the future disaster of immigration.


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    #5561
    p1akuw47h5r3it
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭p1akuw47h5r3it


    20Cent wrote: »
    It's obvious he is giving a platform for dodgy characters to peddle their propaganda unopposed or questioned.

    So we're back to being a bad interviewer. He's discussed many things with many different people.

    Regardless, the original paper you linked does not blame the IDW or the likes of Dave Rubin, but YouTubes Algorithms. You were misrepresenting the research.


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    #5562
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    DanDan6592 wrote: »
    So we're back to being a bad interviewer. He's discussed many things with many different people.

    Regardless, the original paper you linked does not blame the IDW or the likes of Dave Rubin, but YouTubes Algorithms. You were misrepresenting the research.

    U read it yet?

    He has no idea who his guest is or what they have done, doesn't challenge lies. Incompetent is generous. I'd say more he knows but the more controversial stuff means more views etc for him.


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    #5563
    p1akuw47h5r3it
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭p1akuw47h5r3it


    20Cent wrote: »
    U read it yet?

    He has no idea who his guest is or what they have done, doesn't challenge lies. Incompetent is generous. I'd say more he knows but the more controversial stuff means more views etc for him.

    Yes. And it blames YouTube algorithms. Not IDW individuals themselves. Thus the paper doesn't back up your claim that Dave Rubin "encourages" people towards the far-right. That is simply an opinion of yours and nothing else.
    Also, the claim of radicalization the paper makes has no basis. Just because someone watches and makes (1 or 2) comments on a alt-right or lite video doesn't mean they've been radicilized.

    Right so Dave Rubin is incompetent. That still doesn't mean he "encourages" people to the far-right. How can you claim that if you say he probably doesn't even know who his guests are?


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    #5564
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,127 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »
    Mini-fascist Justin Barrett got milkshaked today. :)


    I would have thought a brown coloured shake would be the instrument of choice.


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    #5565
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    DanDan6592 wrote: »
    Yes. And it blames YouTube algorithms. Not IDW individuals themselves. Thus the paper doesn't back up your claim that Dave Rubin "encourages" people towards the far-right. That is simply an opinion of yours and nothing else.
    Also, the claim of radicalization the paper makes has no basis. Just because someone watches and makes (1 or 2) comments on a alt-right or lite video doesn't mean they've been radicilized.

    Right so Dave Rubin is incompetent. That still doesn't mean he "encourages" people to the far-right. How can you claim that if you say he probably doesn't even know who his guests are?

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    #5566
    PostWoke
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 559 ✭✭✭PostWoke


    vriesmays wrote: »
    The National, Party needs a 16-year girl to warn everyone about the future disaster of immigration.

    Haha touché.


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    #5567
    p1akuw47h5r3it
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭p1akuw47h5r3it


    20Cent wrote: »
    2014-09-19-1062sea.png

    What are you getting at? Try and engage me in an adult way please.


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    #5568
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,470 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    DanDan6592 wrote: »
    What are you getting at? Try and engage me in an adult way please.

    that clearly went over your head


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    #5569
    p1akuw47h5r3it
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭p1akuw47h5r3it


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    that clearly went over your head

    How am I sealioning? Unless he meant Dave Rubin. Its not clear.


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    #5570
    Yer Da sells Avon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    Ironicname wrote: »
    "Mini fascist"... Jesus.

    Delighting in seeing a politician being assaulted because you don't agree with him is certainly not a good trait.

    "Politician"... Jesus. He has never been - and thankfully never will be - elected to any position. He's a mad little racist with a silly voice.

    "Assaulted"... Jesus, it's a milkshake, not acid.

    "Delighting"... more amused, tbh.


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    #5571
    Danzy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,857 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »
    "Politician"... Jesus. He has never been - and thankfully never will be - elected to any position. He's a mad little racist with a silly voice.

    "Assaulted"... Jesus, it's a milkshake, not acid.

    "Delighting"... more amused, tbh.

    It's am assault and should be viewed as such.


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    #5572
    Yer Da sells Avon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    Danzy wrote: »
    It's am assault and should be viewed as such.

    If only all assaults were so harmless.


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    #5573
    PostWoke
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 559 ✭✭✭PostWoke


    Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »
    "Assaulted"... Jesus, it's a milkshake, not acid.

    Light can be considered a tool used in assault, never mind throwing a projectile at someone, methinks you need to familiarize yourself with the non-fatal offences act...


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    #5574
    Danzy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,857 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »
    If only all assaults were so harmless.

    Ifs and ands and pots and pans.

    Assault is assault, the severity is a legal matter.

    He would have the right and reasonably so to take this to the Guards and seek legal restitution.

    They don't need to see jail but pay compensation, community service would be fair as it isn't the extreme end yet.

    You can be certain some of their parents will be well connected so they won't get a record or anything.

    Would be very different if they were working class.


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    #5575
    Yer Da sells Avon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    PostWoke wrote: »
    Light can be considered a tool used in assault, never mind throwing a projectile at someone, methinks you need to familiarize yourself with the non-fatal offences act...

    There needs to be a 'non-fatal-or-indeed-harmful offences against the fascist' act to deal with milkshaking these people.


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    #5576
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,470 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Danzy wrote: »
    Ifs and ands and pots and pans.

    Assault is assault, the severity is a legal matter.

    He would have the right and reasonably so to take this to the Guards and seek legal restitution.

    They don't need to see jail but pay compensation, community service would be fair as it isn't the extreme end yet.

    You can be certain some of their parents will be well connected so they won't get a record or anything.

    Would be very different if they were working class.


    given how our district courts deal with criminals a donation to the poor box is more likely.


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    #5577
    [Deleted User]
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    given how our district courts deal with criminals a donation to the poor box is more likely.

    Justin has benefited from this himself in the past

    https://amp.independent.ie/irish-news/youth-defence-unrepentant-as-eight-convicted-26153253.html


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    #5578
    PostWoke
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 559 ✭✭✭PostWoke


    Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »
    There needs to be a 'non-fatal-or-indeed-harmful offences against the fascist' act to deal with milkshaking these people.

    No.

    Also, throwing the word 'fascist' around as you are makes you sound like a first year Arts student.


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    #5579
    Danzy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,857 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »
    There needs to be a 'non-fatal-or-indeed-harmful offences against the fascist' act to deal with milkshaking these people.

    No the law needs to apply to people regardless of who their daddy is. Aspiration should at least be there

    Even a formal caution from the Guards, have them pay his dry cleaning.

    The laws are already present.


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    #5580
    Yer Da sells Avon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    PostWoke wrote: »
    No.

    Also, throwing the word 'fascist' around as you are makes you sound like a first year Arts student.

    You'd want to do some research on Barrett before accusing people of throwing the word 'fascist' around.


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    #5581
    Ironicname
    Registered Users Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭Ironicname


    Yer Da sells Avon wrote:
    You'd want to do some research on Barrett before accusing people of throwing the word 'fascist' around.

    Enlighten me.


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